BF2S Forums for you catholics,jews w/e if u believe in god read this

JaMDuDe wrote:

Y-D God doesnt only do miracles on believers, he loves everybody. You guys will always be able to doubt things. Its pretty sad when theres a miracle the science people need to say " It must have been a mis-diagnosis" or sumthing. Y-D is your friend still a non-believer today?

KingLou wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

afewje wrote:

so what do u believe....

That while our bodies are flesh, we are beings, in a large part, also comprised of energy.  Energy cannot be destroyed, only change forms.  When we die, our energy simply changes form and moves on to another state of being.  In religious terms that may be called a soul, but I certainly don't believe in God, or heaven and hell.

Wow........where's the science to support THAT theory?  I will tell you what happens to the ENERGY that you are made up of when you die.  As your body decomposes, bacteria and other organisms consume your rotting flesh, providing nutrition (ie, energy) for themselves.  The engergy that you were once made of is returned to the earth, in a thousand an one different forms.  So, your state of being becomes a healthy colony of bacteria, fungi, plants, worms, etc.

I really get bugged when people start touting that science is constantly disproving the existance of God.  How?  Evolution?  I'm Catholic....I believe in God, and that he is responsible for creating life as we know it.........and I ALSO believe in evolution (I'm a biology major, and currently in med school).  Why do the two have to be polar opposites.  Because of the creation story in the Bible?  Here's a hint.......it's a STORY......told to people thousands of years ago, who would have NO IDEA whta the hell evolution was if you tried to explain it to them.  I don't consider the Bible to be a historical referance manual to be taken literally without question.  Some religious people do.....and I'll be honest, I think they may be misguided in that regard.  And then there's the scientists that think science disproves the existance of God.  On what basis exactly?  However.......these are the extremes..........there are the very religious (like myself) that believe that science and God are actually complimentary...........and there are many scientists (like myself) that feel like the more they learn of science, the more they are convinced of a higher power.  Study, for instance, in detail the process of human fertilization.  Every odd is AGAINST the sperm finding it's way to the egg.....and that's just the first part of the process.  If you really knew everything that had to happen JUST PERFECT in order for a woman to get pregnant, logic would tell you that it should be near impossible for it to happen.......almost like winning the lottery.  Yet, billions of people manage to get pregnant.....no such luck with the lotteyr.  Clearly we have no shortage of people making babies.

KiL

Y-D-Donut? wrote:

If he really existed, and had been the merciful, the forgiver, the allmighty, the protector of good and destroyer of evil, why does he lets a 9/11 happen, why does he lets so many people die in a Holocaust.... why does he lets so many bad things happen even when everybody wastes their lives in prayers asking him no to let them happen?     im my opinion, he is a creation of manking for not letting us feel so alone in this place. All an illution, a made up thing, and not just god, but every other idol made by man,

Last edited by JaMDuDe (2006-04-15 18:38:39)

JaMDuDe wrote:

Your giving God the blame for peoples personal choices. God didnt create evil people, he created people and they chose to be evil. I dont think Him knowing people wouldnt choose him was a good enough reason for him not to create us.

Last edited by JaMDuDe (2006-04-15 19:28:29)

Spark wrote:

muscleback wrote:

Wow what a topic. Stuff like this always get pretty deap. Science has never proven anything. They only have "THEORYS". Thats because there is too many holes in what the come up with.

Y-D, to answer your question. After adam and eve sinned, that gave birth to sin on earth. Satin a fallen angle now the ability to create sin and havoc. God who gave his life for these sins gave us free will. We now have the choice to fallow him and be forgive for the sins on earth.  9/11 and all the things that happen are from the sins on earth and satin having power to create sin.

Yet another who swallowed Christian doctrine while forgetting to use their brain.

What do you think Jesus' mission was?

'9/11 and all the things that happen are from the sins on earth and satin having power to create sin'

This is the exact simplistic attitude that leads to something like 9/11.

The belief that God/Satan creates all evil things. This encourages FUNDEMENTALISM.

'Wow what a topic. Stuff like this always get pretty deap. Science has never proven anything. They only have "THEORYS". Thats because there is too many holes in what the come up with. '

Obviously you've never heard of, let's see. Earthquakes. Meteorites. The Greenhouse effect.

Need I go on? I could fill a big book with this and still be writing.