Dilbert_X
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Thats the thing, if the defendants skip the country to avoid being prosecuted they don't get to put their side of the story.

And if they decline to comment to the press then press reporting is likely to be one-sided.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-11-04 18:05:09)

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FEOS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Thats the thing, if the defendants skip the country to avoid being prosecuted they don't get to put their side of the story.

And if they decline to comment to the press then press reporting is likely to be one-sided.
But there should be evidence, shouldn't there? I mean, other than "we think they did this"?

Or is it normal for European countries to try people based on hearsay?
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Dilbert_X
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Who says its hearsay, or that there is no evidence? I guess you'd have to go and look at the court transcripts.
The CIA admitted abducting him, which is a crime in Italy, so hard luck.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-11-04 22:32:08)

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Beduin
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Dr.PhiL wrote:

But your an arab immigrant, and you represent nothing thats even slightly british...
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Red Forman
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so what?  obama the lord supports this so......
Dr.PhiL
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Beduin wrote:

Dr.PhiL wrote:

But your an arab immigrant, and you represent nothing thats even slightly british...
Fail reply fails
Ok maybe it was put out out the wrong way.

What I meant was a immigrant with that kind of mentality is NOT a brit, even though he calls himself one he's not, because as I said he represents nothing british.

Same goes for the the people living here.



inb4racist
Beduin
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Dr.PhiL wrote:

Ok maybe it was put out out the wrong way.

What I meant was a immigrant with that kind of mentality is NOT a brit, even though he calls himself one he's not, because as I said he represents nothing british.
Same goes for the the people living here.
inb4racist
What kind of mentality?
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FEOS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Who says its hearsay, or that there is no evidence? I guess you'd have to go and look at the court transcripts.
The CIA admitted abducting him, which is a crime in Italy, so hard luck.
Just going off that crackerjack beeb reporting.
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Dilbert_X
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You said it was hearsay - based on which part?
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FEOS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

You said it was hearsay - based on which part?
The part that didn't say anything about any evidence of any sort.
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I don't see the part where it says there was no evidence.
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FEOS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

I don't see the part where it says there was no evidence.

FEOS wrote:

The part that didn't say anything about any evidence of any sort.
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Dilbert_X
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News reports don't always plough through the evidence, sometimes they just report a conviction.
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Mekstizzle
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FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

I don't see the part where it says there was no evidence.

FEOS wrote:

The part that didn't say anything about any evidence of any sort.
It's almost as if you just want to be in denial about it all. There's no way around it, do what you want.

The BBC is reporting the conviction, it would actually be quite biased on behalf of the Italian courts if it then started publishing the evidence as to why the conviction was made as guilty. And because the CIA wouldn't and didn't give their account of the story, that makes it even harder to see the evidence in a fair way. So that's where you simply get the reporting of the conviction. I doubt any News Organisation is going to get all the evidence like that and then publish it. When the hell does that ever happen

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-11-05 04:52:14)

ghettoperson
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FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

I don't see the part where it says there was no evidence.

FEOS wrote:

The part that didn't say anything about any evidence of any sort.
You're never happy are you? It was a trial in a court. They don't just make shit up as they go along because they hate Americans.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6912|London, England
Because the BBC didn't post all the evidence, they hate America. Because an Italian court said guilty, they hate America. Yeah, they're the fucking poor victim eh, poor United States of America how my heart bleeds for thee. Fuck sake

Kidnap and Torture is a serious allegation. You think that they'd give off a guilty verdict just on a whim and cause all this diplomatic tension just for nothing? Really now, you need to think about it more before you start going off on your cries.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-11-05 04:55:16)

Spark
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Beduin wrote:

Dr.PhiL wrote:

Ok maybe it was put out out the wrong way.

What I meant was a immigrant with that kind of mentality is NOT a brit, even though he calls himself one he's not, because as I said he represents nothing british.
Same goes for the the people living here.
inb4racist
What kind of mentality?
i would say that calling a western democracy 'pigs', 'world dominators' who need to be brought down to their knees is fairly "un-british".
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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Dilbert_X
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Except if we're talking about the French, or anyone who beats us at our silly sports come to think of it.
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Beduin
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Spark wrote:

Beduin wrote:

Dr.PhiL wrote:

Ok maybe it was put out out the wrong way.

What I meant was a immigrant with that kind of mentality is NOT a brit, even though he calls himself one he's not, because as I said he represents nothing british.
Same goes for the the people living here.
inb4racist
What kind of mentality?
i would say that calling a western democracy 'pigs', 'world dominators' who need to be brought down to their knees is fairly "un-british".
I don't know where you are from, but here we can say,sing,write,draw anything you want as long as you are not breaking the law. '

Are you from middleeast?
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Bertster7
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FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Thats the thing, if the defendants skip the country to avoid being prosecuted they don't get to put their side of the story.

And if they decline to comment to the press then press reporting is likely to be one-sided.
But there should be evidence, shouldn't there? I mean, other than "we think they did this"?

Or is it normal for European countries to try people based on hearsay?
There was evidence, lots of it - the trial has been ongoing for a couple of years if I remember correctly.

The two Italian agents involved are already in jail. They do have a proper legal process in Italy - but if you don't show up for your trial, that's your own fault. A bit like that Karadic cunt.
Dilbert_X
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You're forgetting, Americans are innocent when proven guilty, everyone else is guilty on an American's say-so.
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FEOS
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Mekstizzle wrote:

Because the BBC didn't post all the evidence, they hate America. Because an Italian court said guilty, they hate America. Yeah, they're the fucking poor victim eh, poor United States of America how my heart bleeds for thee. Fuck sake

Kidnap and Torture is a serious allegation. You think that they'd give off a guilty verdict just on a whim and cause all this diplomatic tension just for nothing? Really now, you need to think about it more before you start going off on your cries.
Exactly.

Just using the same logic that has been used here regarding other trials in other places reported similarly in other news sources.

Have a nice hypocritical day, my European comrades.
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
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Well you're the one being a hypocrite about those situations, not me. I'm never usually the type of person to jump in to defend someone after a court ruling. You guys are usually the one's to defend the court/police/authorities all the time. I don't really get involved much in those sort of topics.
ghettoperson
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FEOS wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Because the BBC didn't post all the evidence, they hate America. Because an Italian court said guilty, they hate America. Yeah, they're the fucking poor victim eh, poor United States of America how my heart bleeds for thee. Fuck sake

Kidnap and Torture is a serious allegation. You think that they'd give off a guilty verdict just on a whim and cause all this diplomatic tension just for nothing? Really now, you need to think about it more before you start going off on your cries.
Exactly.

Just using the same logic that has been used here regarding other trials in other places reported similarly in other news sources.

Have a nice hypocritical day, my European comrades.
Will do, Captain America.
mikkel
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Mekstizzle wrote:

Well you're the one being a hypocrite about those situations, not me. I'm never usually the type of person to jump in to defend someone after a court ruling. You guys are usually the one's to defend the court/police/authorities all the time. I don't really get involved much in those sort of topics.
FEOS doesn't know how to backpedal. He just drives the same broken bike in another direction for the sake of posture.

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