Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
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Spark wrote:

FM you done theoretical physics at uni?
no
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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Spark wrote:

FM you done theoretical physics at uni?
He's learning how to repair toasters.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6962|Canberra, AUS
lulz
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Macbeth
Banned
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Absence of proof is not proof of absence but but amazing claims demand amazing evidence. You might as well say we are surrounded by invisible faeries unless you can prove otherwise.

Until evidence of a God is shown to me I will not pray at man made church.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6994|67.222.138.85
I could have been repairing toasters for at least 8 years now. Stupid school system.
ATG
Banned
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

The idea that God hates a particle, something he created, is absurd. Particularly when you are talking about a Judeo-Christian God, a forgiving God.
There is the concept of Anti-Christ, and I doubt God has forgiven Satan.




Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Ignoring the fact that religion cannot comprise anything more than the languages we have created to explain the things we see:

Physics explains everything that is worthwhile to know about the world around us. It is not useful to know anything physics does not show us.
Ridiculous.
Again, any language we create to explain the universe is only meaningful to us, not the universe. Start here and tell me how perfect our ' laws of physics are.Your statement is as absurd, or even more so than this. Both concepts stink with narcissism. One brand from foolish men who think the mysteries of creation and life can be explained by science and one brand from foolish men who take the Bible at face value.




Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Get some fucking self-respect.
So, if you accept God you have no self respect?

Wow.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6994|67.222.138.85

ATG wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

The idea that God hates a particle, something he created, is absurd. Particularly when you are talking about a Judeo-Christian God, a forgiving God.
There is the concept of Anti-Christ, and I doubt God has forgiven Satan.
If Satan wants to be forgiven he is.

ATG wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Ignoring the fact that religion cannot comprise anything more than the languages we have created to explain the things we see:

Physics explains everything that is worthwhile to know about the world around us. It is not useful to know anything physics does not show us.
Ridiculous.
Again, any language we create to explain the universe is only meaningful to us, not the universe. Start here and tell me how perfect our ' laws of physics are.Your statement is as absurd, or even more so than this. Both concepts stink with narcissism. One brand from foolish men who think the mysteries of creation and life can be explained by science and one brand from foolish men who take the Bible at face value.
I never said our idea of physics is perfect. It's not even close.

The concept of creation is not worthwhile to know. People get hung up about it out of curiosity. Physics does not pretend to know anything about creation.


ATG wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Get some fucking self-respect.
So, if you accept god you have no self respect?

Wow.
If you place an immortal or moral beings before yourself you have no self-respect.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6962|Canberra, AUS
I guarantee you whatever scientists come up with it will never be as simplistic, nor as unjustifiable as "god did it".

And the example of physics being defied that you give isn't, really.

And mathematics, upon which physics is based, transcends beyond human experience or observation. One plus one will always equal two in the system of integers whether you like it or not.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6962|Canberra, AUS

Kmarion wrote:

Some of the reasons we are attempting to observe it.
Um... I thought the Higgs only explained the existence of mass but did not give a theoretical basis for the observable rest masses of the elementary particles?

Or I might be completely off.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
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Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6994|67.222.138.85
Apologies.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6701|Finland

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Apologies.
Accepted.
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AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6440|what

If scientists ever develop the "dooms day" device, they would flip the switch. They've done it in the past.

When the first nuclear detonation was set off, scientists had no idea if the nuclear reaction would cease, or envelope the universe and destroy everything in an unstoppable chain reaction which just grew as it hit another each atom.

They decided to fire it and see.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6701|Finland

AussieReaper wrote:

If scientists ever develop the "dooms day" device, they would flip the switch. They've done it in the past.

When the first nuclear detonation was set off, scientists had no idea if the nuclear reaction would cease, or envelope the universe and destroy everything in an unstoppable chain reaction which just grew as it hit another each atom.

They decided to fire it and see.
One of the flaws/advantages of human nature. Hunger for knowledge.
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FatherTed
xD
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Use an umbrella
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6994|67.222.138.85

AussieReaper wrote:

When the first nuclear detonation was set off, scientists had no idea if the nuclear reaction would cease, or envelope the universe and destroy everything in an unstoppable chain reaction which just grew as it hit another each atom.

They decided to fire it and see.
I am relatively certain the blast was bigger than expected...

It's pretty obvious why the reaction isn't sustainable, it's why you need the very dense material. I do not think the scientists had any interest in dying.

Even if it were possible to kill the Earth in one fell swoop (I'm sure most of us have seen the "how hard to really kill the Earth" sites) that is a pretty self-destructive mechanism you're claiming scientists have.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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ATG wrote:

Seems like, considering all the failing government services worldwide, the destitute people and failing businesses and robbed pensions that we could find something better to expend resources on.
Except projects like these provide jobs.
Fuck Israel
ATG
Banned
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Dilbert_X wrote:

ATG wrote:

Seems like, considering all the failing government services worldwide, the destitute people and failing businesses and robbed pensions that we could find something better to expend resources on.
Except projects like these provide jobs.
The money would be better spent cleaning up the great garbage patch.
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
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Someone should prolly call Robert Langdon, this has roots deep into Vatican City ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6962|Canberra, AUS
Oh and btw: The hadron collider is operating at about 10TeV, right? So any "black holes" it creates will have a mass of about 10TeV/c2. That's 1.8 x 10^-24 kg or one sextillionth of a gram. Now I see plenty of things around me bigger than one sextillionth of a gram and they don't seem to be destroying the world to me.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5989|College Park, MD

Spark wrote:

Oh and btw: The hadron collider is operating at about 10TeV, right? So any "black holes" it creates will have a mass of about 10TeV/c2. That's 1.8 x 10^-24 kg or one sextillionth of a gram. Now I see plenty of things around me bigger than one sextillionth of a gram and they don't seem to be destroying the world to me.
no u
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AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6440|what

Black holes don't have a mass. Silly Spark.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
destruktion_6143
Was ist Loos?
+154|6914|Canada
ATG, I ask you again, are you ignorant enough to claim to KNOW that there is a god?
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6962|Canberra, AUS

AussieReaper wrote:

Black holes don't have a mass. Silly Spark.
wat
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Hakei
Banned
+295|6282

ATG wrote:

You can think physics explains everything, but in fact it explains nothing more than what we think we know according to the languages we have created to try and explain the things we see.
What physicist / scientist has ever said that physics explains everything?

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