Oklahoma Law Forces All Abortion Details Online

2009-10-08 15:13:02

#1

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5873

http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/fea … index.html

Read, anyway doctors will have to give details of abortions online for everyone to view. Than conservative Christians wonder why everyone hates them. Bull shit right?

2009-10-08 15:31:22

#2

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6936

That's a gross invasion of privacy. It's practically putting women who have abortions up there with sex offenders.

2009-10-08 15:41:42

#3

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6393|eXtreme to the maX

Perhaps everyones records should be online.

Paedophile priests, the knotted family trees of the fascist christians who marry their cousins, the STD records of politicians.

Thats a gross invasion of privacy.

Fuck Israel

2009-10-08 15:45:43

#4

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,982|6919|949

It's ok, their stupid little internet filters won't let them review the websites those are posted on anyway

2009-10-08 15:58:07

#5

BN: smells like wee wee; +159|7055

"The Right" make me want to vomit.

2009-10-08 15:59:19

#6

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5645|London, England

BN wrote:
"The Right" make me want to vomit.

They aren't the 'right', they're north on the political compass.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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2009-10-08 16:48:01

#7

13rin: Member; +977|6766

JohnG@lt wrote:
BN wrote:
"The Right" make me want to vomit.
They aren't the 'right', they're north on the political compass.

F'n A... THANK YOU. DON'T LUMP ME IN WITH THOSE GUYS.

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2009-10-08 17:23:20

#8

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6732|The Land of Scott Walker

"...does not include the name, address or any information specifically identifying the patient."

Missed that part, eh fellas?

2009-10-08 17:26:22

#9

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5989|College Park, MD

JohnG@lt wrote:
BN wrote:
"The Right" make me want to vomit.
They aren't the 'right', they're north on the political compass.

your mom's north on the political compass

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2009-10-08 18:07:11

#10

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6829|Texas - Bigger than France

Dilbert_X wrote:
Perhaps everyones records should be online.

Paedophile priests, the knotted family trees of the fascist christians who marry their cousins, the STD records of politicians.

Thats a gross invasion of privacy.

I think your examples...well they are public.

1) Pedophiles = court reports & they get to be on a special online database anyone can read
2) Cousins = if it's illegal in your state, then again...court reports
3) Politicians = no protection

But yeah, it's bs - don't most states have a right to privacy law specific to this?

2009-10-08 23:26:25

#11

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6936

Stingray24 wrote:
"...does not include the name, address or any information specifically identifying the patient."

Missed that part, eh fellas?

"But opponents argue that the first eight questions alone would be enough to out any woman in a town of 200 or smaller."

Not that I have any idea how many towns of 200 you have in Oklahoma. But that still doesn't mean it's not an invasion of privacy.

2009-10-08 23:29:24

#12

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5989|College Park, MD

Aye, abortions are medical procedures so in theory shouldn't they fall under medical privacy laws?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIPAA#Privacy_Rule

2009-10-08 23:34:51

#13

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6936

It doesn't qualify as a medical procedure because you're sending the baby, the mother and the doctor straight to hell.

2009-10-08 23:36:55

#14

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5989|College Park, MD

wat

2009-10-08 23:38:38

#15

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6936

Exactly.

2009-10-08 23:49:12

#16

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7062|Moscow, Russia

ghettoperson wrote:
It doesn't qualify as a medical procedure because you're sending the baby, the mother and the doctor straight to hell.

huh? i'm not familiar with usa regulations about what's considered a medical procedure, but i seriously doubt "hell" is mentioned anywhere in those.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2009-10-08 23:53:52

#17

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6936

I was joking.

2009-10-09 03:03:09

#18

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7062|Moscow, Russia

ah, i see. i failed miserably at sarcasm detection yet again. well... k.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2009-10-09 15:40:50

#19

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6732|The Land of Scott Walker

ghettoperson wrote:
Stingray24 wrote:
"...does not include the name, address or any information specifically identifying the patient."

Missed that part, eh fellas?
"But opponents argue that the first eight questions alone would be enough to out any woman in a town of 200 or smaller."

Not that I have any idea how many towns of 200 you have in Oklahoma. But that still doesn't mean it's not an invasion of privacy.

How is privacy violated if nothing is included which identifies the patient?

2009-10-09 15:48:30

#20

BVC: Member; +325|6982

Privacy is violated because the information can significantly aid the process of identification.

2009-10-09 16:07:56

#21

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6732|The Land of Scott Walker

How?

2009-10-09 16:17:14

#22

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6908|London, England

Stingray24 wrote:
How?

Why are you so defensive of this? Aren't you usually a freedom loving, stay out of my business type of guy? All of a sudden you're defending the notion of putting medical information online against the will by law.

2009-10-09 16:20:20

#23

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6732|The Land of Scott Walker

I'm not defensive, just asking a question that no one has logically answered. Without "any information specifically identifying the patient", all other details are meaningless.

2009-10-09 16:44:06

#24

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6936

But if within 200 people it's possible to identify them the its not anonymous.

2009-10-11 12:58:19

#25

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6698|'Murka

To put the "first 8 questions" nonsense to bed...

from the pdf of the bill:

1. Date of abortion
2. County in which abortion performed
3. Age of mother
4. Marital status of mother (married, divorced, separated, widowed, or never married)
5. Race of mother
6. Years of education of mother (specify highest year completed)
7. State or foreign country of residence of mother
8. Total number of previous pregnancies of the mother
Live births
Miscarriages
Induced abortions

Being fairly confident that I have spent more time than probably anyone else on this forum in small towns in Oklahoma...I can't see how this could possibly point to the identity of a woman having an abortion performed, regardless of the size of the town involved, since the granularity of geography is county, not city, town, or incorporation.

I'm with Stingray on this one...there's no invasion of privacy here. I think it's extreme, but it doesn't invade anyone's privacy, as it doesn't provide any personal details...which would violate other federal laws (such as HIPPA) which override any state laws.

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