MaddOps
Who the hell elected you leader of this outfit?
+55|6888
While I'm not a trasher, or extreme recycler, I made a discovery of something while taking out my garbage.  Someone threw away an OLD (1995) P5-90 Gateway.  Full Tower Chassis.  Still had the old computer in it.
I may do something with the old computer, but it had a really nasty old style AT power supply and I don't want to electrocute myself screwing around with it.

Anyway, on to the demonization. 

Highlights: 

1) I did a line up test with an ATX Mobo that I had laying around that didn't work. I have to remove 6 mount screws (3 under the board area) and the 3 from where the old AT board layed horizontal.
Other than that the board lines up perfectly and does not go over the top of the motherboard tray.
I have to drill 3 more mounting holes to get all the securing points on the board ready to go.

2) old mobo tray will be removeable once I drill out the rivets.

3) old mobo tray has 4 large squares in it that will seat 80MM fans nicely!

4) Harddrive Cage is attached to the BACK of the system and can be mounted virtually anywhere.

5) Internal frame of the chassis stands on it's own (no need for the square shaped shell)

6) PLENTY of room for 120mm fans where ever I'd want them.

Problems

1) The old construction material may be a little tough to cut.  How tough?  I can stand on the internal frame and it won't buckle.  I weigh 225 pounds (unknown in Kilos or how many "stone" that is).  I did get my overhead lightbulbs changed however.

2)Power Supply can't have a fan out the back.  Only up top.  Back must be vented.

I guess the question now is if it's beneficial to me to mount 4 80's to the spaces in the old mobo tray?
I can do porthole cuts on the top for the power supply fan and my 120MM top exhaust.

Also wondering if I should run it in just the frame or subistute with plexiglass pieces with portholes cut in.  I may drill grids into the plexiglass to facilitate airflow. 

Thinking about mounting harddrive cage Vertically on the BACK SIDE.  Then drives are exposed to direct cooling. 

I could watercool this system and make it handy to take to lan parties, but I don't know that many coputer geeks to have a lan party and I really only play BF2 and my friends and I play together any time we're all on.

I'm really beginning to hate my 1st Gen Lanboy case.  That aluminum causes more problems than it solves.
On the upside, it was butter to take a hole saw to and during the winter months with no snow and a creative ducting system from a nearby window, I could get the processor to operate at about 101F under load, and the system temperature to be at 40-60 degrees. 

(to do this I got a sheet of plexiglass, put a vent tube into it, closed up the case and sealed it so it was mostly airtight and then put a loop in the vent hose running from the window to the case (via the fan port) and the loop kept it from letting water into the system. )

But I want something a little more practical than having to use the house AC unit and BF Cold from outside to do heavy duty cooling. 

Any suggestions are more than welcome.
The Stillhouse Kid
Licensed Televulcanologist
+126|6933|Deep In The South Of Texas
Did a Google image search and got this:

https://www.yamaguchi.net/shopping.files/gateway2000p90.jpg

If this is the right case then it looks like it could be a good candidate for modding.

If size permits you could put in a 120mm fan behind the front panel(low), another out the back, a blowhole up top and possibly a side fan or window. Then top it off with a nice new coat of paint.
MaddOps
Who the hell elected you leader of this outfit?
+55|6888
Yep that's the case.  The bottom shell (plastic is shot, as it's broken).  I will keep the front panel, replacing lower venting with mesh and doing the same over the un-used drive bays.   

Current plan is for 2 120 blowholes up top.  One for Power Supply intake, and one for Exhaust 120.  With ducting so the warm air don't mix with the cool and so on.  Power supply will only breathe from outside the case.
THA
im a fucking .....well not now
+609|7062|AUS, Canberra
just put a stripper pole coming out of the top and be done with it.
MaddOps
Who the hell elected you leader of this outfit?
+55|6888

the_heart_attack wrote:

just put a stripper pole coming out of the top and be done with it.
Not a bad idea at all.  I like the way you think!

Actually with the case height if I could find some midget strippers......
MaddOps
Who the hell elected you leader of this outfit?
+55|6888
UPDATE.  So I got the old thing shelled out.  Would have left it as JUST the interior shell, but I didn't have a power button I could mount very well.  So I'll have to look for a different switch and then get it wired up.

But it's SO MUCH COOLER than that old Antec LANBOY.  I noticed a drop of 20C on Processor AND System Temp.
I don't have to run that god awful set of 120MM that sound like turbines.  I have 4 80 MMs.

One on the Proc with a duct to bring in cool air from outside.
One blowing directly onto the video card.
One Bringing in Cool Air Across the Memory.
And one blowing in my general direction.

I've got a 3 fan Bay Cooler (Fans that pull air through the drive bay across the harddrive.)
on my 350GB SATA.

It even looks like it's going to work great for BTX too with some Modifications.

I like it because I can make sure that all fans are pulling cool outside air, and there's NOTHING blocking the airflow of the motherboard.  The DVD RW and DVD drives are out of the way, Memory is sitting out in the open.

I'm happy with it.  If you want some room to play with I highly suggest going out to find one of these old cases if possible. 

The Only Downside.  The NEW ATX boards don't sit at just the right height off the chassis and the hole isn't quite right in the back.  I had to do a little modding with a hacksaw to get the back plate to work.  I ended up modifying the backplate for the motherboard as I'm not worried about accessing the PS/2 Legacy Ports.

But this might suck come the time that my Bios resets and I have to boot with an Old Style Keyboard.

Total Cost:  $0.00.
joker3327
=IBF2=
+305|6890|Cheshire. UK

MaddOps wrote:

the_heart_attack wrote:

just put a stripper pole coming out of the top and be done with it.
Not a bad idea at all.  I like the way you think!

Actually with the case height if I could find some midget strippers......
I could do you a good deal on midget strippers ...but the donkey leaves a mess
slo5oh
Member
+28|6952

MaddOps wrote:

UPDATE.
But it's SO MUCH COOLER than that old Antec LANBOY.  I noticed a drop of 20C on Processor AND System Temp.
I don't have to run that god awful set of 120MM that sound like turbines.  I have 4 80 MMs.

One on the Proc with a duct to bring in cool air from outside.
One blowing directly onto the video card.
One Bringing in Cool Air Across the Memory.
And one blowing in my general direction.

I've got a 3 fan Bay Cooler (Fans that pull air through the drive bay across the harddrive.)
on my 350GB SATA.

Total Cost:  $0.00.
Props to you on a good DIY job.  I love to hear about someone making something from nothing and loving it.  But, I seriously wonder if you need your ears checked.  I have a lanboy case and both the 120mm fans are SO QUIET that I can hardly hear them.  The computer sits on my desk under 2' from my head too.  My noise has always been from assorted video card's fans, now solved thanks to a zalman.  I do agree that you'll probably see a decent case and or CPU temp drop simply because that case is so HUGE and SOLID (I know 'cus threw one out several months ago) that it probably has it's own climate with storms and all. 
I put 5 80mm ball bearing fans in a clear case and that bad boy sounded like a 747 launching.  I've since replaced that case with an antec sonata (120mm fans) and it's now so quiet that I've slept with it on and didn't realize it was left on.
If you want to find some hard core cases check out old 386 cases.  OMG they are heavy.  The lid alone weighs more than some of my whole computers. 
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6941

Can we have some pics of yours?
EvilMonkeySlayer
Member
+82|6943
Or buy a good case... 

Got a Lian Li PC-V1100 Plus here, kickarse case. All metal baby. Great for cooling and it looks cool. (plus lots of space)

Also the raid server I built for work is in a PC-V2000 case, the V2000 because it has LOADS of bays for 3.5" hdd's.

http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/ … 00plus.htm (although mine has no front door, didn't see a need for it)


http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/ … -V2000.htm (the V1100 front looks identical to the front of this except this is vertically larger)

Last edited by EvilMonkeySlayer (2006-05-04 12:25:33)

acdc
Member
+37|6867|SEATTLE, WA
What are the advantages and disadvantages of having the psu in the bottom of the case like all of those new Lian Li cases?  I heard it causes the heatsink / cpu to die faster?  True or false?
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,057|7063|PNW

If you really feel like nerding out with case mods:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1 … 675,00.asp

acdc wrote:

What are the advantages and disadvantages of having the psu in the bottom of the case like all of those new Lian Li cases?  I heard it causes the heatsink / cpu to die faster?  True or false?
Lian Li's method attempts to isolate heat generated by an excess of hard drives and the PSU. The reversed motherboard tray prevents video card heat from overwhelming the processor, but can sometimes build up alot of heat towards the top of the chassis unless your video card has adequate cooling. The reversed tray can also occasionally be somewhat counterproductive on some motherboards; those that make use of heatpipes. However, this configuration does not grant your CPU an accelerated death. I have one of the Lian Li cases in question, and it has run far cooler than any other chassis I have owned.

The biggest disadvantage I can think of is that some wires may not be able to properly reach the motherboard, depending on your make.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-05-04 16:43:05)

Stealth42o
She looked 18 to me officer
+175|6963
Internal cooling with no fans.  Drop a block on the cpu/gpu/ups/north bridge and hd.

Would be sweet to boot that tower up and only hear the slight wirr of the hd(s).

You got more then enough room for it.

Gl, keep us posted!
EvilMonkeySlayer
Member
+82|6943

acdc wrote:

What are the advantages and disadvantages of having the psu in the bottom of the case like all of those new Lian Li cases?  I heard it causes the heatsink / cpu to die faster?  True or false?
The only disadvantage is what unnamednewbie said, that if you have a cheaper PSU the cables may not reach. (in which case get a better psu or extensions for the molex connectors etc)

There is a metal divider between the psu and the motherboard with a fan at the front, very little in the way of heat reaches the motherboard from the psu. It all gets pumped out at the back.

If you have a V1100 Plus (which I have) it has some extra fans, like an airduct type thing specifically for the cpu etc. Keeps it ultra cool.

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