http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ … AO20091003
What a basterd.
I don't understand why we bother wasting time in Afghanistan.
What a basterd.
I don't understand why we bother wasting time in Afghanistan.
...something happened on the operation they were on,that he didn't like?
الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
...show me the schematic
...show me the schematic
or he was a no-good al-Qaeda or Taliban operative who feigned support for Afghanistan in order to get in to the militaryBeduin wrote:
...something happened on the operation they were on,that he didn't like?
hang him
and get us the hell out of that place
That's just sickening, fucking sickening. The poor soldiers and now their families have to deal with losing them and in such a pointless way. It's just wrong.
Professional soldiers join the army knowing they might die. What's the difference if he shoots 'em or some suicide bomber blows 'em up. Whats the difference between this case and a US plabne dropping bombs on a village while they all sleep. Get US troops home and no-one will have to worry about shit like that anymore will they. Victims of a stupid foreign policy.
The difference is, The United States military doesn't target villages full of civies with air strikes.ruisleipa wrote:
Professional soldiers join the army knowing they might die. What's the difference if he shoots 'em or some suicide bomber blows 'em up. Whats the difference between this case and a US plabne dropping bombs on a village while they all sleep. Get US troops home and no-one will have to worry about shit like that anymore will they. Victims of a stupid foreign policy.
Well, that is debatable, but since they HAVE dropped bombs on villages killing civilians, they must have targeted them, right? Unless they just pressed the wrong button while playing with their joysticks.S3v3N wrote:
The difference is, The United States military doesn't target villages full of civies with air strikes.ruisleipa wrote:
Professional soldiers join the army knowing they might die. What's the difference if he shoots 'em or some suicide bomber blows 'em up. Whats the difference between this case and a US plabne dropping bombs on a village while they all sleep. Get US troops home and no-one will have to worry about shit like that anymore will they. Victims of a stupid foreign policy.
- Superior Mind
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The Afghan killed two US soldiers, not civis. What differences are you drawing on?S3v3N wrote:
The difference is, The United States military doesn't target villages full of civies with air strikes.ruisleipa wrote:
Professional soldiers join the army knowing they might die. What's the difference if he shoots 'em or some suicide bomber blows 'em up. Whats the difference between this case and a US plabne dropping bombs on a village while they all sleep. Get US troops home and no-one will have to worry about shit like that anymore will they. Victims of a stupid foreign policy.
In the military history of the US, we ourselves were the first to fight dirty. Our minute men didn't line up on fields to fight the British.
Last edited by Superior Mind (2009-10-04 00:12:00)
oh I frogot the U.S. Ari Force looks at a map points to a village they haven't scouted, haven't made contact in and drop a few cluster bombs on.ruisleipa wrote:
Well, that is debatable, but since they HAVE dropped bombs on villages killing civilians, they must have targeted them, right? Unless they just pressed the wrong button while playing with their joysticks.S3v3N wrote:
The difference is, The United States military doesn't target villages full of civies with air strikes.ruisleipa wrote:
Professional soldiers join the army knowing they might die. What's the difference if he shoots 'em or some suicide bomber blows 'em up. Whats the difference between this case and a US plabne dropping bombs on a village while they all sleep. Get US troops home and no-one will have to worry about shit like that anymore will they. Victims of a stupid foreign policy.
my bad.
... should have known I was there once for awhile
well, I dunno about scouting or whatever but you can't deny that they HAVE bombed villages, killing civilians, so what's your point? I never said they did what you're saying. Anyway, this is getting offtopic.
That's Vietnam buddy. And they don't waste money dropping random bombs on random villages. Ever heard of winning the hearts and minds of the populace?ruisleipa wrote:
well, I dunno about scouting or whatever but you can't deny that they HAVE bombed villages, killing civilians, so what's your point? I never said they did what you're saying. Anyway, this is getting offtopic.
they did it in 'nam as well, but don't think it doesn't happen now. I have heard the mantra of 'winning hearts and minds', its just that Americans fuckin SUCK at it. The Taliban kills civilians, and so do the US. I never said it was random. More extremely careless:Cybargs wrote:
That's Vietnam buddy. And they don't waste money dropping random bombs on random villages. Ever heard of winning the hearts and minds of the populace?ruisleipa wrote:
well, I dunno about scouting or whatever but you can't deny that they HAVE bombed villages, killing civilians, so what's your point? I never said they did what you're saying. Anyway, this is getting offtopic.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/world … fghan.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/fe … rymccarthy
http://middleeast.about.com/od/afghanis … 081012.htm
"According to the office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, which released the latest casualty figures on Sept. 18, 2008, There were 1,445 civilian casualties in the first eight months of 2008, an increase of 39 percent compared to the same period in 2007, when there were 1,040 conflict-related deaths.
Exactly 800 killings, or 55 percent of the total, are attributed to Taliban and other insurgent forces, with some 551 deaths attributed to suicide bombings and 142 to summary executions carried out by the Taliban. That leaves some 45 percent of the casualties attributable to American and NATO forces, mostly as a result of air raids. American forces are overwhelmingly responsible for those air raids, since airstrikes are primarily performed by US aircraft. America’s Central Command Airforces (CENTAF), reports that in December 2007, American forces conducted 87 airstrikes, compared with just seven by British forces and three by French forces. "
Anyway, my original point was that it's hard to feel sympathy for two professional soldiers killed in a war when thousands of civilians have also been killed. The soldiers CHOSE to fight, the civilians didn't.
ruisleipa you know fuck all about war. please shut up. dont go acting like some expert cut and pasting shit from the internet. my god why is this forum such a magnet for euros who dont know shit but think they do.....
lmao and you...red forman...act like you know everything about everything, are totally prejudiced and insult other people. Well done
Other guys said it doesn't happen, but it does. I gave evidence. What, are you gonna deny it too? Your idea of 'winning hearts and minds' probably coincides with 'shock and awe', that great propaganda coup involving bombing the fuck out of everywhere. what...the fuck...ever.
Other guys said it doesn't happen, but it does. I gave evidence. What, are you gonna deny it too? Your idea of 'winning hearts and minds' probably coincides with 'shock and awe', that great propaganda coup involving bombing the fuck out of everywhere. what...the fuck...ever.
go away euro. you know shit. shut your mouth.
lol keep it up red forman, I haven't laughed this much at some fool insulting me over the internet for ages. Gimme more hahahahaha.
glad i could help. maybe go wiki it also.