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No jungle?

ATG wrote:

No jungle?

this isnt a travel show rick steves

fucktard politicians running the war from the comfort of the States.

It's probably not as useless as Vietnam. I mean who gives a shit if Vietnam fells to the communists. What the fuck does that matter, that's their fucking problem if they wanted communism. If Afghanistan falls back into the hands of the terrorists though, that could have grave consequences as has already been demonstrated with 9/11 and various other terrorist attacks which originated within Afghanistan in terms of planning and preperation etc..

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-09-28 21:43:12)

Still doesn't affect the US in any real way compared to terrorists having a safe haven which really would affect the US in a personal manner

There is a new term.

the AfPak war.


I hate...stuff.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

Prove to me this is not pretty much the same as Vietnam.

It's exactly the same as Vietnam. Where they fucked up was sending in line troops. Should've just had the Special Forces train up the local military, provide it with some backbone for a while and then moved on once they got up and running. Now the Afghani government is completely dependent on us the same way South Vietnam was.

Agreed...sadly, politicians tend to suck at history and will make mistakes again and again and again.

ruisleipa wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

If Afghanistan falls back into the hands of the terrorists though, that could have grave consequences as has already been demonstrated with 9/11 and various other terrorist attacks which originated within Afghanistan in terms of planning and preperation etc..

LOL the only people the Taliban were terrorising was the Afghanis, at least until the West jumped in. Didn't you know that Bin LAden is a Saudi, the hijackers on 9/11 were mainly Saudis, and Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have both produced more 'terrorists' than Afghanistan. It IS a fuck-up, but not for the reasons you mention.

You should prolly do some research, Afghanistan has been a safe haven for terrorists under taliban control for many years ... doesn't matter what country the terrorist originate from, many of them got their training in Afghanistan ...

Yep its pretty much the same.  I think the question is: If its the same as Vietnam, should we just pull out?
Dont have an answer for that one. Part of me says its futile and we shouldnt waste good soldiers lives there any more. Part thinks that if we left, it would be a massive shot in the arm for terrorists, and the small improvements in living standards some of the locals have got due to foreign control, would be wiped out.

Cybargs wrote:

Varegg wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

LOL the only people the Taliban were terrorising was the Afghanis, at least until the West jumped in. Didn't you know that Bin LAden is a Saudi, the hijackers on 9/11 were mainly Saudis, and Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have both produced more 'terrorists' than Afghanistan. It IS a fuck-up, but not for the reasons you mention.

You should prolly do some research, Afghanistan has been a safe haven for terrorists under taliban control for many years ... doesn't matter what country the terrorist originate from, many of them got their training in Afghanistan ...

Word.

Oh yeah and the fatality/casualties for the US in Vietnam was huge. I mean no offence, but really the amount of dead in Afghanistan and Iraq combined in total since 2001 isn't actually that high. Not when you compare it to other things, including Vietnam.

And... I mean more people died in a single fucking day in WW2

I know its easy for me to sit here and say that when I don't know anyone or have been personally affected at all by the wars in Iraqistan, but still, sometimes shit needs to be put more into perspective

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Oh yeah, and one question about Vietnam. I always hear about how there was a draft, but I don't get it. Did that really mean that every able man had to sign up and fight in Vietnam?

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-09-29 06:22:23)

Mekstizzle wrote:

Oh yeah and the fatality/casualties for the US in Vietnam was huge. I mean no offence, but really the amount of dead in Afghanistan and Iraq combined in total since 2001 isn't actually that high. Not when you compare it to other things, including Vietnam.

And... I mean more people died in a single fucking day in WW2

I know its easy for me to sit here and say that when I don't know anyone or have been personally affected at all by the wars in Iraqistan, but still, sometimes shit needs to be put more into perspective

Body armor is more widespread now. Better medical care as well. Harder to ambush soldiers on a mountain than in a jungle. Less troops involved etc etc etc.

Hell, the weapons haven't even changed. It's still M-16 vs AK-47.