Agent_Dung_Bomb
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I'm no engineer and only vaguely understand the laws of thermodynamics, but what has that got to do with my idea?  My idea doesn't imply that you are creating more power than you are taking in, only that if all the road systems were made from solar panels that you could produce enough electricity for a maglev road system.

So, would one of you EE guys care to explain the problem?
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
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You lose a lot of energy through various kinds of friction and inefficiencies, so that it is very unlikely you could actually power the entire road system from itself.
Harmor
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+605|6835|San Diego, CA, USA
Computer Engineer here. 

So yeah, lets hook all this to a computer!  USB solar panels ftw.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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I'm no engineer and only vaguely understand the laws of thermodynamics, but what has that got to do with my idea?  My idea doesn't imply that you are creating more power than you are taking in, only that if all the road systems were made from solar panels that you could produce enough electricity for a maglev road system.
Haven't done the sums but maybe for every 1,000km of solar panel road you could have 1km of maglev road.
I doubt it would be anything like as much as that though.

Or you could go down the permanent magnet approach, which would require a hell of a lot of magnets, and still require power.

In any case maglev is only suitable for rail-type networks.

Generally people don't appreciate just how much energy is required for transportation and how little can currently be produced from solar power.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-09-12 02:57:39)

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Kmar
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The Tesla Roadster is by far the best-known electric car of the moment -- despite the company only having sold about 700 of the things. A high price point hasn't kept the car from capturing the minds of enviro-minded gearheads everywhere, of which there must be quite a few working at SolarCity. The California-based solar installation firm has created four Tesla charging stations along Highway 101 between Los Angeles and San Francisco, with a fifth coming online next month. The (apparently free) chargers provide a 240V charge at 70 amps, blowing away Eberhard's RFMC rapid charger and bringing the cars to full capacity in only 3.5 hours. Why, that's just enough time for a nice lunch and a bit of shopping. Sadly the plugs only work with Teslas, but will be retrofitted once some other suitable EV comes along in suitable numbers.
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Burwhale
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Theres a new sloar cell made at the moment that has  the flexibility of cloth. That would mean it would be tough enough to sit under the clear road surface. I would like to see this plan developed further ( dont think the maglev thing would work though).
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6962|Canberra, AUS

Burwhale wrote:

Theres a new sloar cell made at the moment that has  the flexibility of cloth. That would mean it would be tough enough to sit under the clear road surface. I would like to see this plan developed further ( dont think the maglev thing would work though).
Until we get a decent above-room-temperature superconductor (which will probably take several decades unless there is a HUGE breakthrough, if it is possible at all), that won't be happening.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Burwhale
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Spark wrote:

Until we get a decent above-room-temperature superconductor (which will probably take several decades unless there is a HUGE breakthrough, if it is possible at all), that won't be happening.
Do you mean the flexible solar cell or the Maglev thing?
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6962|Canberra, AUS

Burwhale wrote:

Spark wrote:

Until we get a decent above-room-temperature superconductor (which will probably take several decades unless there is a HUGE breakthrough, if it is possible at all), that won't be happening.
Do you mean the flexible solar cell or the Maglev thing?
Maglev. You need big magnets and lots of them thus superconducting magnets, but it's way too expensive to use current high-temp superconductors on such scales because of the cooling needs.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman

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