Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6837|San Diego, CA, USA
Yep...another government program...this time for appliances with the Energy Star seal.

http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/08/30/c … ishwasher/

We've spent $300 million so far...let see if we can get to $3 billion!!!
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6889|132 and Bush

This money is coming from the original stimulus bill right?

The government is funding the program in the hope that the appliance industry will get some stimulus money.  The home appliance industry has been in a big slump with sales in 2009 down about 15% from last year.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6693|North Carolina
I understand that they want to help, but this is getting ridiculous....
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6889|132 and Bush

I don't think this is in addition.. I could be wrong.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5990|College Park, MD
sweet this fridge of mine is getting old
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lowing
Banned
+1,662|6939|USA

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

sweet this fridge of mine is getting old
Well here, let me buy ya a fuckin' new one!!
13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6785

lowing wrote:

Well here, let me buy ya a fuckin' new one!!
thanks! i got one that's twice as efficient as the one i had, for half the price, and here i was gonna chalk it up to  modernization!

[b]lowing's picking up the tab, imma gonna call socializition, BUT - because he's a private citizen, i'll call it PRIVATIZATION!

{P.S. hey douche, send me your billing address, i've been making payments on it only two months and i'd sincerely love to see you put your money where your mouth is }
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5990|College Park, MD

lowing wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

sweet this fridge of mine is getting old
Well here, let me buy ya a fuckin' new one!!
awwww thanks
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FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6788|so randum
may i say;

HOW DARE THE GOVERNMENT TRY AND STIMULATE THE ECONOMY WITHOUT BUYING THE INDUSTRY OUT
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6963|Canberra, AUS

FatherTed wrote:

may i say;

HOW DARE THE GOVERNMENT TRY AND STIMULATE THE ECONOMY WITHOUT BUYING THE INDUSTRY OUT
It's not like it's worked anywhere else in the world!

Oh wait...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6788|so randum

Spark wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

may i say;

HOW DARE THE GOVERNMENT TRY AND STIMULATE THE ECONOMY WITHOUT BUYING THE INDUSTRY OUT
It's not like it's worked anywhere else in the world!

Oh wait...
sorry, what's that germany!
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6939|USA

burnzz wrote:

lowing wrote:

Well here, let me buy ya a fuckin' new one!!
thanks! i got one that's twice as efficient as the one i had, for half the price, and here i was gonna chalk it up to  modernization!

[b]lowing's picking up the tab, imma gonna call socializition, BUT - because he's a private citizen, i'll call it PRIVATIZATION!

{P.S. hey douche, send me your billing address, i've been making payments on it only two months and i'd sincerely love to see you put your money where your mouth is }
You have to make payments on a refrigerator?, how sad. Maybe you should try getting a job. Anyway, it explains why you need govt. running your life.

Last edited by lowing (2009-08-31 18:59:23)

13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6785

interest free, lowing. i break the payment into twelve equal sizes, don't pay interest, and get it delivered.
for a republican, you don't know shit about money. and, as a person, you are quick to classify people that don't exactly toe the limbaugh line.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5646|London, England

burnzz wrote:

interest free, lowing. i break the payment into twelve equal sizes, don't pay interest, and get it delivered.
for a republican, you don't know shit about money. and, as a person, you are quick to classify people that don't exactly toe the limbaugh line.
You must not pay taxes if you think the government handing out money like it's a broken ATM machine is a good thing. But hey, we're already 10 trillion in debt, whats a few hundred million more right?

You want a new fridge? Save up for it. Having trouble saving money? Then you don't really want the new fridge. It's pretty simple.

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2009-08-31 19:50:01)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6939|USA

burnzz wrote:

interest free, lowing. i break the payment into twelve equal sizes, don't pay interest, and get it delivered.
for a republican, you don't know shit about money. and, as a person, you are quick to classify people that don't exactly toe the limbaugh line.
Sorry I am not a republican, they are simply the lesser of 2 evils.
13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6785

JohnG@lt wrote:

You must not pay taxes if you think the government handing out money like it's a broken ATM machine is a good thing. But hey, we're already 10 trillion in debt, whats a few hundred million more right?

You want a new fridge? Save up for it. Having trouble saving money? Then you don't really want the new fridge. It's pretty simple.
"you must not pay taxes" wtf? i'm married, spouse and i both earn - we've been in this house eleven years - we have no deductions, no kids -
FUCK YOU i don't pay taxes. i'm carrying your ass too.

i've got enough in checking to walk right up and hand 'em cash, that's not the point. the point for me is~ i sign on the line, break the payment into 12 pieces, get a rebate, get the old one carted off when they deliver the new one, and the new one is more efficient. i do not get any tax breaks, i pay my share. die in a fire, usmarine
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5646|London, England

burnzz wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

You must not pay taxes if you think the government handing out money like it's a broken ATM machine is a good thing. But hey, we're already 10 trillion in debt, whats a few hundred million more right?

You want a new fridge? Save up for it. Having trouble saving money? Then you don't really want the new fridge. It's pretty simple.
"you must not pay taxes" wtf? i'm married, spouse and i both earn - we've been in this house eleven years - we have no deductions, no kids -
FUCK YOU i don't pay taxes. i'm carrying your ass too.

i've got enough in checking to walk right up and hand 'em cash, that's not the point. the point for me is~ i sign on the line, break the payment into 12 pieces, get a rebate, get the old one carted off when they deliver the new one, and the new one is more efficient. i do not get any tax breaks, i pay my share. die in a fire, usmarine
So why are you in favor of the government handing out your tax dollars to pay for other peoples fridges? You should be as pissed off as I am about it. Sure, you might get use out of the program, but what about the two hundred million other tax payers you're stealing from? What about the asswipes that DON'T pay ANY taxes and are using this program?

Btw, who signs your paychecks? I believe it says Department of the Navy sailorboy. I was Army myself.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6785

JohnG@lt wrote:

What about the asswipes that DON'T pay ANY taxes and are using this program?
okay, i took a deep breath, and i will say;
when news of the rebate came up, the wife and i decided we needed a new fridge. it wasn't the program, hell we coulda traded in the s-10 during cash for clunkers but it does the job we need it to. so, we went to the local (yes, we buy local, and where we can we buy domestic) furniture store, and the only reason we got on the payment plan was to take advantage of the delivery service (remember the s-10? sux for haulin fridges).

as far as people takin advantage of my taxes? i said before we are childless, yet the bulk of my property tax goes to the local schools. i am sure we have illegal immigrant children at that school. i still pay, because i am a law abiding citizen. i am active locally, and i try to make a difference.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7054|UK

Harmor wrote:

Yep...another government program...this time for appliances with the Energy Star seal.

http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/08/30/c … ishwasher/

We've spent $300 million so far...let see if we can get to $3 billion!!!
o noes, 300 million HELPING people in your country.

Seriously... 52 BILLION defense budget. I swear some American's are retarded.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5646|London, England

burnzz wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

What about the asswipes that DON'T pay ANY taxes and are using this program?
okay, i took a deep breath, and i will say;
when news of the rebate came up, the wife and i decided we needed a new fridge. it wasn't the program, hell we coulda traded in the s-10 during cash for clunkers but it does the job we need it to. so, we went to the local (yes, we buy local, and where we can we buy domestic) furniture store, and the only reason we got on the payment plan was to take advantage of the delivery service (remember the s-10? sux for haulin fridges).

as far as people takin advantage of my taxes? i said before we are childless, yet the bulk of my property tax goes to the local schools. i am sure we have illegal immigrant children at that school. i still pay, because i am a law abiding citizen. i am active locally, and i try to make a difference.
I'm going to kind of nitpick but illegal immigrants pay for their own kids schooling via rent. The landlord then pays property taxes from the rent. It's a small thing but I hate when stuff like that is repeated. (And yes, when they pile 20 people into a one bedroom apartment they are gaming the system but you can thank your state legislatures for making it so damn hard to evict people, at least it's like that here in New York where it's next to impossible to evict them.)
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6668|MN

Vilham wrote:

Harmor wrote:

Yep...another government program...this time for appliances with the Energy Star seal.

http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/08/30/c … ishwasher/

We've spent $300 million so far...let see if we can get to $3 billion!!!
o noes, 300 million HELPING people in your country.

Seriously... 52 BILLION defense budget. I swear some American's are retarded.
https://www.gleasonworks.com/BF2s/chart.gif
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6785

nit-picking is the essence of debate, ask lowing.
my country is bleeding red and green right now, and i do what i can. i try to think globally, act locally, and vote every single election.

the dog catcher knows me by name . . .
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6943

Hmm, I've got an old tv that I want to get rid of. Just gotta make sure it has the seal (the manual says it has energy saving mode and has the seal on it, just dunno if the tv does).
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7054|UK

LividBovine wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Harmor wrote:

Yep...another government program...this time for appliances with the Energy Star seal.

http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/08/30/c … ishwasher/

We've spent $300 million so far...let see if we can get to $3 billion!!!
o noes, 300 million HELPING people in your country.

Seriously... 52 BILLION defense budget. I swear some American's are retarded.
http://www.gleasonworks.com/BF2s/chart.gif
wow. So people are bitching about 300 mill being spent where it really matters, its citizens, when u guys spend nearly 600 Billion on defence to maintain an army that is completely unnecessary in this day and age?

I bet if u cut around that bureaucracy that spends that 600 billion you would find a spare 300 mill...

Last edited by Vilham (2009-08-31 21:20:59)

LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6668|MN

Vilham wrote:

LividBovine wrote:

Vilham wrote:

o noes, 300 million HELPING people in your country.

Seriously... 52 BILLION defense budget. I swear some American's are retarded.
http://www.gleasonworks.com/BF2s/chart.gif
wow. So people are bitching about 300 mill being spent where it really matters, its citizens, when u guys spend nearly 600 Billion on defence to maintain an army that is completely unnecessary in this day and age?

I bet if u cut around that bureaucracy that spends that 600 billion you would find a spare 300 mill...
The point of posting the chart was highlight the amount of spending on social programs vs. defense.  Our federal government should NOT be spending anywhere this amount on social programs.  The federal government IS for National Defense and International relations and commerce.  The states should hold the responsability for social programs and most economic affairs if the populace of that state so chooses.
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)

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