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2006-04-07 00:40:02
hellsy
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+8|7059|Devizes, Wiltshire, UK
Well that didn't take long, seems like the whole stat system on a whole is pretty much dead/fucked, Seeing how this "glitch" has been out for a few patchs or even since the game came out, The whole stat system can't be trusted.

Maybe EA/Dice could find a way of tracking commader scores and time spent in game like how bf2tracker.com can track your history from signing up, But this would mean time/money/effort and we know what ea are like when it comes to post-gold gaming support.

I can feel a wipe coming on after a patch or two, hopefully getting rid of or "fixing" the whole x2 comander lark!

And tbh how the hell did they find this glitch i wouldn't put it down to be smart like some older posts have said

Just bloody lucky
2006-04-07 05:58:22
daves-box
Member
+15|7110
I'm sure this will be resolved with the next hotfix EA/DICE releases. It's ashame to think we have admired the scoring system and our ranks but now to see how exploits have ruined it makes me think differently of the scoring system. What about the others that are using the exploit that are making their way to the top but are staying under the radar? Using it for their advantage!

And for future questions/threads that will arise, bf2s will continue to show HuuFlungDung at the top of the ranks when his stats have been reset until he reaches 100 points again. The below link will show when his stats are reset.

http://bf2player.com/index.php?page=sta … t=49111989

Last edited by daves-box (2006-04-07 06:02:31)

2006-04-07 06:04:59
jord
Member
+2,382|7142|The North, beyond the wall.
Number 2 of the 87 threads that will be about this guy.I don't give a flying fuck who is in the top ten.But what you should really be bothered about is the hackers who keep a low profile.They don't get massive scores just above average.When i play sniper and some guy picks me off from the other side or the map with a pistol is anoying but not much i can do if they keep a low profile and don't do to many spectacular things in a round.
2006-04-07 06:10:55
G.I.JOE¤MFA¤
Member
+3|7193|Wherever Uncle Sams Needs Me.
here we go again




hellsy wrote:

Well that didn't take long, seems like the whole stat system on a whole is pretty much dead/fucked, Seeing how this "glitch" has been out for a few patchs or even since the game came out, The whole stat system can't be trusted.

Maybe EA/Dice could find a way of tracking commader scores and time spent in game like how bf2tracker.com can track your history from signing up, But this would mean time/money/effort and we know what ea are like when it comes to post-gold gaming support.

I can feel a wipe coming on after a patch or two, hopefully getting rid of or "fixing" the whole x2 comander lark!

And tbh how the hell did they find this glitch i wouldn't put it down to be smart like some older posts have said

Just bloody lucky
heres my reply to the other thread on this topic

G.I.JOE¤MFA¤ wrote:

tvmissleman wrote:

there is another guy with 16 million points.
i fear somthing drastic from EA.
Why doesn't this bother me? 

stats are only there for the kids and those "big" kids; so they can boast about something other than their short comings in life

sorry guys - you recieved the shorter stick in life but chin up, at least your stats are bigger than mine

he will get his stats reset...no need to start pouting about it...

cheats will be everywhere, they always get caught and dealt with accordingly

if u happen to come across a cheat or padder just start a vote kick and explain...if admin, ban them quick - unfortunately this is the best we can do...EA didnt give us any other option in the game...

imagine the complaints if EA incorporated a cheat/padding reporter in the game...how many people would abuse it when they got owned fair and square?

scores like this latest guy will come around more and more since people are telling others how to do it on the forums...kids will get cuirous and try it out to see if it works - while the more mature players that just play for fun will continue to do what they do best...play fair and not resort to these childish ways

i raise my mug and toast to all those that play fair and dont wine

BTW tvmissleman - the cheese is in the mail (same day shipping)
hellsy - your package of cheese is in the mail too
2006-04-07 07:04:32
BF2Craglyeye
Member
+72|7136|Australia

hellsy wrote:

Well that didn't take long, seems like the whole stat system on a whole is pretty much dead/fucked, Seeing how this "glitch" has been out for a few patchs or even since the game came out, The whole stat system can't be trusted.

Maybe EA/Dice could find a way of tracking commader scores and time spent in game like how bf2tracker.com can track your history from signing up, But this would mean time/money/effort and we know what ea are like when it comes to post-gold gaming support.

I can feel a wipe coming on after a patch or two, hopefully getting rid of or "fixing" the whole x2 comander lark!

And tbh how the hell did they find this glitch i wouldn't put it down to be smart like some older posts have said

Just bloody lucky
I fail to see how this is a massively big deal.

A fix would no doubt be on the way, in the mean time anyone stupid enough to end up with 16mil points will be sent packing.

Sure there might be people using this glitch to gain points however so discreetly, so as to avoid detection, well good on them, the fix will un-doubtedly put an end to that. Forcing them to play the game as it was meant.

With everyone being none the wiser.
2006-04-07 07:15:13
topal63
. . .
+533|7182
Gee another dude with 16 million FAKE points.

Oh wait that's 15.9 million more FAKE points than my 100,000 FAKE points.
(I can hear the whiney oxymoronic moronic "serious gamer" crybabies cry "But I earned my FAKE points the legit way!")

Oh gee he's got a FAKE rank too - like me.
Oh WOW and he's got FAKE medals & FAKE ribbons - like me too.

BFG!

Last edited by topal63 (2006-04-07 07:19:04)

2006-04-07 07:51:51
LSD_Wash
Member
+64|7277

topal63 wrote:

Gee another dude with 16 million FAKE points.

Oh wait that's 15.9 million more FAKE points than my 100,000 FAKE points.
(I can hear the whiney oxymoronic moronic "serious gamer" crybabies cry "But I earned my FAKE points the legit way!")

Oh gee he's got a FAKE rank too - like me.
Oh WOW and he's got FAKE medals & FAKE ribbons - like me too.

BFG!
I think this is sort of a retarded way to think.  Yeah, it is a game, but so is basketball, baseball, golf, hockey, etc.  You go play basketball at the gym, is it okay if the other team cheats?  You play golf on Saturday with friends, is it okay if one or two of them cheat?  Probably not... if so, then you're more retarded than I thought.  If they cheated, you would probably be pissed and rightly so.  But you don't lose anything 'real' by losing to a cheater.  (unless you bet on the game)  But I can bet you would still be pissed.  And you're right, the points don't have any intrinsic value outside the game, but it's what hundreds of thousands of people like to do with their time and cheaters ruin people's good time.  No, it isn't taking money from their pockets, but cheating is cheating and it sucks.  Just because you don't seem to have any qualms about people cheating, don't berate those people who do.

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2006-04-07 08:28:43
VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|7169|Antarctica
The stat system is screwed over, that means more ppl will go to the mods.
2006-04-07 08:31:50
topal63
. . .
+533|7182

LSD_Wash wrote:

topal63 wrote:

Gee another dude with 16 million FAKE points.

Oh wait that's 15.9 million more FAKE points than my 100,000 FAKE points.
(I can hear the whiney oxymoronic moronic "serious gamer" crybabies cry "But I earned my FAKE points the legit way!")

Oh gee he's got a FAKE rank too - like me.
Oh WOW and he's got FAKE medals & FAKE ribbons - like me too.

BFG!
I think this is sort of a retarded way to think.  Yeah, it is a game, but so is basketball, baseball, golf, hockey, etc.  You go play basketball at the gym, is it okay if the other team cheats?  You play golf on Saturday with friends, is it okay if one or two of them cheat?  Probably not... if so, then you're more retarded than I thought.  If they cheated, you would probably be pissed and rightly so.  But you don't lose anything 'real' by losing to a cheater.  (unless you bet on the game)  But I can bet you would still be pissed.  And you're right, the points don't have any intrinsic value outside the game, but it's what hundreds of thousands of people like to do with their time and cheaters ruin people's good time.  No, it isn't taking money from their pockets, but cheating is cheating and it sucks.  Just because you don't seem to have any qualms about people cheating, don't berate those people who do.
1.) It isn't basketball, golf, or any other real world game - it's a video game.
My friends take mulligans on the golf course - I don't care - technically it's cheating - but nothing is at stake - so I don't care.

Please explain how someone is going to get 16 million points by cheating at basketball at the gym; or even 100 points; do they posess a magic ball that always drops through the hoop? If you mean fouling; playing rough; this is against the rules; expect some to do it - no big deal - it even happens - I don’t care.

2.) Get some perspective - it is just an opinion - and it is just a VIDEO game.

3.) If they had never awarded me 1 point, 1 stat, 1 medal, 1 rank, etc - I would have still played BF2, for awhile anyway until it got old - and it sort of is.

4.) It is just a (EA/DICE)marketing ploy to keep you interested in the game, stats vs content, I'd rather have more & newer content.

5.) By (EA/DICE) not supporting modders (new & varied content), and having ranked servers leased from EA, they have deluded gamers into a psychological mindset they wanted all along (see #4).

Oh, by the way stat padders, hackers, glitchers, teamgod, etc; they don't really bother me either. True that I don't like getting sniped by a hacker - but then again I don't like getting sniped period. True I don't see why someone would waste their time stat padding vs actually playing the game - but then again - I don't really care either. True a guy behind a wall I can't get into killing me is annoying - but then again I never spawn there again - to suffer from that glitch/glitcher either.

Last edited by topal63 (2006-04-07 08:39:12)

2006-04-07 08:39:09
Vinny
Member
+7|7239| The Dirtty Dirtty
Well being that you cant fix new Probs is something to also think about.

This is kinda the first game of its kind one of the only ones that scores you on how well you do in game. So if its the first one then how are you going to learn from something if nothing ever happened. (If you get it)

So it'll get better as the Game Progress or even in MAY when the Patch and Booster gets out.
2006-04-07 08:45:11
topal63
. . .
+533|7182

Vinny wrote:

Well being that you cant fix new Probs is something to also think about.

This is kinda the first game of its kind one of the only ones that scores you on how well you do in game. So if its the first one then how are you going to learn from something if nothing ever happened. (If you get it)

So it'll get better as the Game Progress or even in MAY when the Patch and Booster gets out.
I agree with you about the stats, that they show your personal BF2 game progress, but that could easily be something local, merely keep as a record on your computer.

And if the ULTRA-geeky wished to compare their meaningless stats; they could come to BF2S or another site and do so.

Last edited by topal63 (2006-04-07 08:45:48)

2006-04-07 09:27:46
Burning_Monkey
Moving Target
+108|7301

topal63 wrote:

I agree with you about the stats, that they show your personal BF2 game progress, but that could easily be something local, merely keep as a record on your computer.

And if the ULTRA-geeky wished to compare their meaningless stats; they could come to BF2S or another site and do so.
But then again, how am I to brag about how my e-prick is bigger than yours?

And I am girthier too.

All the ladies come running for my e-prick.
2006-04-07 10:43:06
daves-box
Member
+15|7110
wow EA is getting faster with the reset! http://bf2player.com/index.php?page=sta … t=49111989 Stats WIPED!

Last edited by daves-box (2006-04-07 10:44:00)

2006-04-07 10:45:42
wirespeed44
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+1|7059

jord wrote:

When i play sniper and some guy picks me off from the other side or the map with a pistol is anoying...
That doesn't take cheating at all.  It takes a sniper who doesn't determine where the incoming fire is coming from fast enough, and doesn't aim well enough.  Play an engineer for a few days straight, and I promise you you'll learn to take out snipers with your pistol from 'across the map' as well.

Last edited by wirespeed44 (2006-04-07 10:46:20)

2006-04-07 11:13:57
topal63
. . .
+533|7182

Burning_Monkey wrote:

topal63 wrote:

I agree with you about the stats, that they show your personal BF2 game progress, but that could easily be something local, merely keep as a record on your computer.

And if the ULTRA-geeky wished to compare their meaningless stats; they could come to BF2S or another site and do so.
But then again, how am I to brag about how my e-prick is bigger than yours?

And I am girthier too.

All the ladies come running for my e-prick.
Are you making an e-pass at me?
2006-04-07 14:57:42
Paco_the_Insane
Phorum Phantom
+244|7108|Ohio
Lets just hope EA gets the fix out before everyone does it, thats all i care about.
2006-04-07 15:03:36
xstax981
Community Modder
+93|7140
These C.E.A. people need to get off their pot. I hope their web provider shuts them down (like that's gonna happen). Knowing EA's perfect timing of releasing patches/hotfixes, every n00b in the world will start using this exploit just because C.E.A. got high on a little cocaine.

[/rant]

Yay! Pretty new color!

Last edited by xstax981 (2006-04-07 15:04:47)

2006-04-07 15:10:59
jord
Member
+2,382|7142|The North, beyond the wall.

xstax981 wrote:

These C.E.A. people need to get off their pot. I hope their web provider shuts them down (like that's gonna happen). Knowing EA's perfect timing of releasing patches/hotfixes, every n00b in the world will start using this exploit just because C.E.A. got high on a little cocaine.

[/rant]

Yay! Pretty new color!
Stax i added you on xfire but your never on.Ages ago you said me and pure_beef could use your server to race on.Please pm me or go on xfire about it thanks.
2006-04-07 15:31:56
IronFerret
Member
+48|7121|Mexico City.
Why is everybody so worried about the ranks system?!? its just a marketing tool.. i used to like it, but then i realize of my wrong.. its bullshit.  The only cool thing about this is the statS  but thats a personal stuff, and ranks can be achieve easyly, by stat pading, hack or just a couple of karkand dedicated whore weeks and there you are first sergeant!! WOW!!

i started a new acount because i never liked my first name (got tired of beeing a ferret) anyway i do check stats but to see how fine im doing, but never mesure my dick with others in the rank cos i know its bullshit.  Despite of this new acount, gameplay hasnt change it et all, and shure theres some tards that wont let my go into choper or jet without teamkill me (because of my rank) but once i manage to get in; they stop fucking arround.. cos in the ends SKILL IS WHAT IT MATTERS.

about the unlocks.. i always use FAMAS OR AK101 on medic (cos i think they r the best).. and G36 on spec ops.. so unlocks doesnt matter et all.

pd. i just got a couple of hours on BF1942 great fun!.. and thanks god no one its bitching about its rank.. its all about FUN AND SKILLS.

sorry about gramar.
2006-04-07 15:55:13
Moonraker_x29
First man on Mars
+9|7154|England, GBR
Fuck it. Hopefully if they're that hell bent on cheating, karma will ensure they die in a light plane crash or something.
2006-04-07 16:36:52
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7065|132 and Bush

topal63 wrote:

Gee another dude with 16 million FAKE points.

Oh wait that's 15.9 million more FAKE points than my 100,000 FAKE points.
(I can hear the whiney oxymoronic moronic "serious gamer" crybabies cry "But I earned my FAKE points the legit way!")

Oh gee he's got a FAKE rank too - like me.
Oh WOW and he's got FAKE medals & FAKE ribbons - like me too.

BFG!
lol..
Xbone Stormsurgezz
2006-04-07 18:31:23
kontrolcrimson
Get your body beat.
+183|7291|Australia
now if they can find away to hack the time in vehicle......
2006-04-08 00:23:40
WarhausAsh
Member
+0|7113

Vinny wrote:

Well being that you cant fix new Probs is something to also think about.

This is kinda the first game of its kind one of the only ones that scores you on how well you do in game. So if its the first one then how are you going to learn from something if nothing ever happened. (If you get it)

So it'll get better as the Game Progress or even in MAY when the Patch and Booster gets out.
You never played Novalogic's Black Hawk Down  I take it....Stats, Medals, Badges and Ranks have been around in other games for quite some time....and stat padders also....I find it funny how BF2 has the same ranking system of a game that is 3 years old and people think it's something new...
2006-04-08 00:28:56
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7138|Canberra, AUS

WarhausAsh wrote:

Vinny wrote:

Well being that you cant fix new Probs is something to also think about.

This is kinda the first game of its kind one of the only ones that scores you on how well you do in game. So if its the first one then how are you going to learn from something if nothing ever happened. (If you get it)

So it'll get better as the Game Progress or even in MAY when the Patch and Booster gets out.
You never played Novalogic's Black Hawk Down  I take it....Stats, Medals, Badges and Ranks have been around in other games for quite some time....and stat padders also....I find it funny how BF2 has the same ranking system of a game that is 3 years old and people think it's something new...

Wikipedia wrote:

Stat Padding also known as point farming, point padding, exploiting, and to the bottom line, cheating. The word surfaced with the introduction of such games as World of Warcraft and Battlefield 2 for the PC. These games use a progressive statistics tracking system, with numerous items and level ups available at certain points. Due to players wanting to get these new unlockable items without having to work hard many players resorted to working together to earn points unfairly. For example, in Battlefield 2 stat padding is usually done in small groups where someone kills another player, and a medic revives them and then heals them. In this way, unusual high scores are produced, but this was fixed in the 1.03 fix of the game after many reports of players doing this and even having ranked servers just for this purpose.
Clearly you are more enlightened then us.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2006-04-08 00:44:01
WarhausAsh
Member
+0|7113
https://www.novaworld.com/Players/TopLists.aspx?p=

select Delta Force BHD

games been around since 2002 I think real similar badges, ranks medals and what-not...

Last edited by WarhausAsh (2006-04-08 00:47:03)

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