I agree with this statement.TimmmmaaaaH wrote:
Fucking idiots.
He gets drunk, his car gets impounded. Rather than just admitting he is a douchebag, he wastes 3 cops time (Seriously, 3 cops?!) and ruins some innocent persons day.
Are you sure it's still legal?Cheez wrote:
They abolished the 1c and 2c coins here in the early 90s (we now round to 5c). Still legal tender though
Yes, he's a dick in some way, but he is paying his fine that he did not deny with money. They take money, hand over car, voila! Everything is fine, its because the employee have been stubborn into not taking money that there was 3 cops on the scene. I reckon he should have at least rolled the pennies but its money nonetheless and the employe HAVE to serve him...as far as ive seen, he was not paying with war bond or coupon.TimmmmaaaaH wrote:
Fucking idiots.
He gets drunk, his car gets impounded. Rather than just admitting he is a douchebag, he wastes 3 cops time (Seriously, 3 cops?!) and ruins some innocent persons day.
not his fault the cops are retardsTimmmmaaaaH wrote:
Fucking idiots.
He gets drunk, his car gets impounded. Rather than just admitting he is a douchebag, he wastes 3 cops time (Seriously, 3 cops?!) and ruins some innocent persons day.
"Officer down, send backup!"ph1shman420 wrote:
not his fault the cops are retardsTimmmmaaaaH wrote:
Fucking idiots.
He gets drunk, his car gets impounded. Rather than just admitting he is a douchebag, he wastes 3 cops time (Seriously, 3 cops?!) and ruins some innocent persons day.
Uh, they're holding his property in lieu of debt owed. Any legal tender, regardless of denomination, is appropriate restitution for debts owed. If this was a shop, and the guy wanted to purchase merchandise, your argument MIGHT fly, depending on state law, but this is a situation where a creditor is refusing payment in legal tender to settle a debt, and that's illegal no matter how you twist it.Ty wrote:
That's a bit of a dickhead move. I mean he parked his car long enough for it to be towed, he's in the wrong not the impound lot. Interestingly enough the woman at the counter is allowed by law to refuse service to anyone if she has reasonable grounds to do so.
This is why it's important to learn a statute or two 'cause if a dickhead comes in wanting to fuck your day up you can deal with it.
"Hey I'm going to pay you this $88 fee in pennies."
"Uh, yeah no, not gonna fly mate."
"Why? This is legal tender, you're required by law to accept it."
"Maybe so. You seem to know a lot about the law, do you also know that I can legally refuse to serve you?"
"Bu-"
"And while you could go and complain and bitch and moan and try to get your weak revenge on this place even when you know it's your own stupid fault and eventually maybe even get through and pay the $88 worth of pennies, this will all take a lot of time, mine, yours, other people's and all this time I keep your car right here."
"Bu-"
"Or, you could bypass your little vendetta, stop acting like a whiney little douchebag, pay your fee with a card or any form of reasonable acceptable currency, get your car and leave this place before I decide that maybe I do want to stab you multiple times with my ballpoint pen here."
That shit would not fly with me. Seriously, it's not like an impound lot has to keep a good customer service record.
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Exactly what i wanted to say up there, was just not in a mental state where i could phrase it like this...but yeah, as this is someone belonging, no choice to take it, its not a sell.mikkel wrote:
Uh, they're holding his property in lieu of debt owed. Any legal tender, regardless of denomination, is appropriate restitution for debts owed. If this was a shop, and the guy wanted to purchase merchandise, your argument MIGHT fly, depending on state law, but this is a situation where a creditor is refusing payment in legal tender to settle a debt, and that's illegal no matter how you twist it.Ty wrote:
That's a bit of a dickhead move. I mean he parked his car long enough for it to be towed, he's in the wrong not the impound lot. Interestingly enough the woman at the counter is allowed by law to refuse service to anyone if she has reasonable grounds to do so.
This is why it's important to learn a statute or two 'cause if a dickhead comes in wanting to fuck your day up you can deal with it.
"Hey I'm going to pay you this $88 fee in pennies."
"Uh, yeah no, not gonna fly mate."
"Why? This is legal tender, you're required by law to accept it."
"Maybe so. You seem to know a lot about the law, do you also know that I can legally refuse to serve you?"
"Bu-"
"And while you could go and complain and bitch and moan and try to get your weak revenge on this place even when you know it's your own stupid fault and eventually maybe even get through and pay the $88 worth of pennies, this will all take a lot of time, mine, yours, other people's and all this time I keep your car right here."
"Bu-"
"Or, you could bypass your little vendetta, stop acting like a whiney little douchebag, pay your fee with a card or any form of reasonable acceptable currency, get your car and leave this place before I decide that maybe I do want to stab you multiple times with my ballpoint pen here."
That shit would not fly with me. Seriously, it's not like an impound lot has to keep a good customer service record.
Yeah, but oil itself is no legal tender and would not have passed, even tho i must admit it would have been brilliant!KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Epic way? Boring way I'd think. An epic way to pay would be to bring him 200lbs (or the equivalent value) of bauxite or convert the cost to barrels of oil or something. I mean, I was playing this prank when i was like 10 years old and I'd give my friends $20 in pennies for their birthday.
Unoriginal, uninspired. I feel like Gordon Ramsay. The risotto is BURNED!
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When were 1c & 2c coins taken out of circulation?AussieReaper wrote:
Are you sure it's still legal?Cheez wrote:
They abolished the 1c and 2c coins here in the early 90s (we now round to 5c). Still legal tender though
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This.Winston_Churchill wrote:
In Canada there are limits on how many of each type of coin you can legally use in a transaction. I don't know them off the top of my head but I know 24 pennies are the limit then they can refuse
Would have been epic revenge for the impound wimminz.Stubbee wrote:
Every time they made a noise she should have started over. Keep starting over for any excuse. She could have kept them going for days. If other customers showed up she would tell them to wait while she deals with the douchebag and his pennies.
You wouldn't have been arrested, you, or at least the company, would have recieved a fine.Ty wrote:
We got rid of 5c coins 'cause no-one really used them. I remember collecting $10 worth of them and buying some fish & chips and a milkshake. The shop wasn't impressed.
Okay so maybe my scenario wouldn't have worked under US law. I'd have probably still done it. If he went crying to the police and I was forced to accept the pennies, (and it's not like I'd be arrested or fined for refusing to accept the pennies,) I would have kept the douchebag while I counted each and every penny. I'd count them as slowly as possible and frequently loose count and have to start over.
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20c in copper (not really relevant anymore)Zombie_Affair wrote:
When were 1c & 2c coins taken out of circulation?AussieReaper wrote:
Are you sure it's still legal?Cheez wrote:
They abolished the 1c and 2c coins here in the early 90s (we now round to 5c). Still legal tender though
1c coins were were last dated 1990 and 2c coins were last dated 1989. In 1992 both the 1c and 2c coins were progressively removed from circulating our [Australian] currency. As for legal tender, yes, 1c and 2c coins are still legal tender but are not apart of our currency, which means a vendor can deny you service or a product because it isn't a part of our currency, but the bank can accept them and trade them for legal tender of the same face value.
In Australia, we have legal limits on the amount of coins you can hand over to a vendor, I believe it's 10 times the face value of the coins in total including $5 and $10 notes, except for any value using $20 notes or higher.
Wouldn't have happened man. The law isn't written in stone. No judge would enforce a fine on someone who refused to be paid $88 in pennies.Zombie_Affair wrote:
You wouldn't have been arrested, you, or at least the company, would have recieved a fine.
"Hey I'm going to pay you this $88 fee in pennies."
"Uh, yeah no, not gonna fly mate."
"Why? This is legal tender, you're required by law to accept it."
"Maybe so. You seem to know a lot about the law, do you also know that I can legally refuse to serve you?"
"Bu-"
"And while you could go and complain and bitch and moan and try to get your weak revenge on this place even when you know it's your own stupid fault and eventually maybe even get through and pay the $88 worth of pennies, this will all take a lot of time, mine, yours, other people's and all this time I keep your car right here."
"Bu-"
"Or, you could bypass your little vendetta, stop acting like a whiney little douchebag, pay your fee with a card or any form of reasonable acceptable currency, get your car and leave this place before I decide that maybe I do want to stab you multiple times with my ballpoint pen here."
Just like murderers always get punished for killing right? Sorry Tyferra, the law, set in stone or not, is not always justice.Ty wrote:
Wouldn't have happened man. The law isn't written in stone. No judge would enforce a fine on someone who refused to be paid $88 in pennies.Zombie_Affair wrote:
You wouldn't have been arrested, you, or at least the company, would have recieved a fine.
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Are you saying that this hard done by man who wanted to pay his fee in pennies deserved justice? He deserved a kick in the balls for being such a dickhead. My argument is tha a judge would look at the facts - dude trying to pay fee in pennies clearly in an effort to get some sort of revenge on the impound lot, person at counter doesn't want to accept pennies because it mans a whole lot of unneccesary work - and would most likely not impose any penalty on the impound lot. If anything the judge would be pissed off at the Penny dude for wasting everyone's time over something that was originally his fault.Zombie_Affair wrote:
Just like murderers always get punished for killing right? Sorry Tyferra, the law, set in stone or not, is not always justice.Ty wrote:
Wouldn't have happened man. The law isn't written in stone. No judge would enforce a fine on someone who refused to be paid $88 in pennies.Zombie_Affair wrote:
You wouldn't have been arrested, you, or at least the company, would have recieved a fine.
Slightly O/T: Like the lawyer who ran a red light at 80KM/h and smashed head-on into an oncoming vehicle he was supposed to give way too, right outside a bar. He was taken to court and pleaded Not guilty due to Driving Under the Influence of Alchohol and Failure to maintain proper control of his vehicle due to intoxication. He recieved a bunch of shit like DUI, failure to maintain control, failure to yeild, failure to give way etc, but was not charged for manslaughter. He wasn't coming from the bar but they couldn't prove whether or not he was intoxicated at the time.
That and you never know what a judge's decision will be.
The law does not always prevail.
He commited a crime and he payed for the the crime. What right does the impound lot have to fuck around with him dispite his method of tender? The person in the OP has not commited a crime in regards to paying for his car. Even though it was an obvious attempt at the guy being a smartass, he didn't commit a crime.Ty wrote:
Are you saying that this hard done by man who wanted to pay his fee in pennies deserved justice?
Hardly takes any time, I don't know about you, but a lot of places that need to deal with money on a regular basis have machines that count money by weight. Simply put the pennies into said machine and presto, in 3 - 6 seconds you have an amount. Bag it, tag it, move on with life.Ty wrote:
He deserved a kick in the balls for being such a dickhead. My argument is tha a judge would look at the facts - dude trying to pay fee in pennies clearly in an effort to get some sort of revenge on the impound lot, person at counter doesn't want to accept pennies because it mans a whole lot of unneccesary work - and would most likely not impose any penalty on the impound lot. If anything the judge would be pissed off at the Penny dude for wasting everyone's time over something that was originally his fault.
I'm not saying the person in the OP wasn't a douchebag, but he didn't do anything wrong. It might look like a smartarse attempt to seek revenge, but he done it lawfully.Ty wrote:
Honestly though ZA I think at this stage we're pretty much having two different arguments.
If you are prepared to deal with a douchebag like this, who would most likely call lawyers and everything, then go right ahead, just don't be suprised when you get reprimanded and punished for your actions. I'd also like to say I deal with shit like this daily, but if I'm working, I act professionally. Outside of work is a different story.Ty wrote:
but if someone comes in deliberately trying to fuck up your day then I firmly believe that you are fully entitled to give as good as you get. However if I dealt with this particular douchebag I would not have held back. If he wants to involve an innocent party in his stupid little revenge-joke then he should be prepared to be treated like the dickhead he is.
I don't like taking crap from people.
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