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seriously, does anyone find this^^^ odd???nickb64 wrote:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id … amp;page=1
lol
they're related apparently... distantly...
This is the only thing this cop has done to disappoint me. give in to the politics of this event. I would not have taken Gates abuse, and accusations, let Obama call me stupid to a nation, then sit and have a beer witrh either asshole.Kmarion wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0No8LEiFlcM
It puts him in a position to say that he tried.. It may be of value if this is pursued legally.
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I totally agree. Obama gets a free pass, looks like a total asshole and then gets to preach to us about a " teachable moment. " The cop should have not attended. Perhaps he is angling for a book deal. This is totally fucking lame.lowing wrote:
This is the only thing this cop has done to disappoint me. give in to the politics of this event. I would not have taken Gates abuse, and accusations, let Obama call me stupid to a nation, then sit and have a beer witrh either asshole.Kmarion wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0No8LEiFlcM
What a fucking joke this nation has become.
On the left, a racist asshole. In the middle, an attention seeking whore. On the right, a disaster.
So much anger.. need a beer?
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Multiculturalism does have some serious drawbacks.
It would be much easier to get things done had we never implemented slavery or even encouraged much immigration. We'd be smaller but a lot more unified on most issues.
Nowadays, it seems to be a continual process of superficial tolerance while the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer.
It would be much easier to get things done had we never implemented slavery or even encouraged much immigration. We'd be smaller but a lot more unified on most issues.
Nowadays, it seems to be a continual process of superficial tolerance while the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer.
cry me a river, at some point in history every race has been exploited. There are no slaves alive in America nad hasn't been for 170 years.Turquoise wrote:
Multiculturalism does have some serious drawbacks.
It would be much easier to get things done had we never implemented slavery or even encouraged much immigration. We'd be smaller but a lot more unified on most issues.
Nowadays, it seems to be a continual process of superficial tolerance while the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer.
Civil Rights is over 50 years old now and the people bitching the loudest never experienced it. Times have changed, it is up to the minority community to move forward from it, JUST AS MUCH as it was up to the white community to release it.
I wasn't suggesting that slavery justifies Gates's attitude. I think you'll find that you and I probably agree on more than you would expect in the realm of social equality.lowing wrote:
cry me a river, at some point in history every race has been exploited. There are no slaves alive in America nad hasn't been for 170 years.Turquoise wrote:
Multiculturalism does have some serious drawbacks.
It would be much easier to get things done had we never implemented slavery or even encouraged much immigration. We'd be smaller but a lot more unified on most issues.
Nowadays, it seems to be a continual process of superficial tolerance while the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer.
Civil Rights is over 50 years old now and the people bitching the loudest never experienced it. Times have changed, it is up to the minority community to move forward from it, JUST AS MUCH as it was up to the white community to release it.
For example, I believe affirmative action is outdated.
@karma.. just that it isn't entirely over.lowing wrote:
cry me a river, at some point in history every race has been exploited. There are no slaves alive in America nad hasn't been for 170 years.Turquoise wrote:
Multiculturalism does have some serious drawbacks.
It would be much easier to get things done had we never implemented slavery or even encouraged much immigration. We'd be smaller but a lot more unified on most issues.
Nowadays, it seems to be a continual process of superficial tolerance while the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer.
Civil Rights is over 50 years old now and the people bitching the loudest never experienced it. Times have changed, it is up to the minority community to move forward from it, JUST AS MUCH as it was up to the white community to release it.
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I have to give Obama credit at least for his handling of this post-"the police acted stupidly." Considering the public message both people sent out afterward and their plans for another meeting, it seems something good could actually come from this on some level.
Don't ever try to argue that with African-American people - ever. You'll get called a racist almost immediately.Turquoise wrote:
I wasn't suggesting that slavery justifies Gates's attitude. I think you'll find that you and I probably agree on more than you would expect in the realm of social equality.lowing wrote:
cry me a river, at some point in history every race has been exploited. There are no slaves alive in America nad hasn't been for 170 years.Turquoise wrote:
Multiculturalism does have some serious drawbacks.
It would be much easier to get things done had we never implemented slavery or even encouraged much immigration. We'd be smaller but a lot more unified on most issues.
Nowadays, it seems to be a continual process of superficial tolerance while the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer.
Civil Rights is over 50 years old now and the people bitching the loudest never experienced it. Times have changed, it is up to the minority community to move forward from it, JUST AS MUCH as it was up to the white community to release it.
For example, I believe affirmative action is outdated.
I don't see how that picture can piss anyone off so much. No dead profs, no dead cops, and the biggest media frenzy about racism all year culminating in the main figures chatting and drinking a beer?
Sure it's about vanity as well, but what isn't in the world?
Sure it's about vanity as well, but what isn't in the world?
some people will use anything as a political attack
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
three numpties get together to put away their differences....and yet you still complain.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
credit for what, NOT apologizing for his bias?Macbeth wrote:
I have to give Obama credit at least for his handling of this post-"the police acted stupidly." Considering the public message both people sent out afterward and their plans for another meeting, it seems something good could actually come from this on some level.
it is a PR stunt, nothing more. Remember, if Obama did not apoligize for what he said, which was wrong ( he even admits it) then he is not sorry for it.djphetal wrote:
I don't see how that picture can piss anyone off so much. No dead profs, no dead cops, and the biggest media frenzy about racism all year culminating in the main figures chatting and drinking a beer?
Sure it's about vanity as well, but what isn't in the world?
Lowing must be loving this. It took Obama fucking ages to mention race since entering the media spotlight but at last he says... now where did I put that confederate flag?
isn't that true of pretty much everyone?lowing wrote:
Remember, if Obama did not apoligize for what he said, which was wrong ( he even admits it) then he is not sorry for it.
They sell those in Ireland? and yeah, why hasn't he been beating the drum sooner? was he cahootin' with that gates feller, settin' it up so he canBraddock wrote:
Lowing must be loving this. It took Obama fucking ages to mention race since entering the media spotlight but at last he says... now where did I put that confederate flag?
drink beer AND smoke in the white house?
You can buy them in the Unionist areas of Northern Ireland... says a lot!burnzz wrote:
[They sell those in Ireland? and yeah, why hasn't he been beating the drum sooner? was he cahootin' with that gates feller, settin' it up so he canBraddock wrote:
Lowing must be loving this. It took Obama fucking ages to mention race since entering the media spotlight but at last he says... now where did I put that confederate flag?
drink beer AND smoke in the white house?
I have no problem with Obama mentioning race, WHEN it is a racial issue. the only thing that made this a racial issue was the guy was black. If he were white, given the same circumtances, we would not be having this discussion, nor would the president even be involved.. So tell me, who are the racists in the story?Braddock wrote:
Lowing must be loving this. It took Obama fucking ages to mention race since entering the media spotlight but at last he says... now where did I put that confederate flag?
Pretty much... although they usually have to pause first when I show them that William Julius Wilson (a black sociologist) supports the changing of affirmative action to reflect class not race.nukchebi0 wrote:
Don't ever try to argue that with African-American people - ever. You'll get called a racist almost immediately.Turquoise wrote:
I wasn't suggesting that slavery justifies Gates's attitude. I think you'll find that you and I probably agree on more than you would expect in the realm of social equality.
For example, I believe affirmative action is outdated.
We should be helping the poor regardless of race.
I never heard that a prominent African-American actually argued against affirmative action (seven 'A' words, lel). How do your opponents respond, aside from pausing, when they hear you mention it?Turquoise wrote:
Pretty much... although they usually have to pause first when I show them that William Julius Wilson (a black sociologist) supports the changing of affirmative action to reflect class not race.nukchebi0 wrote:
Don't ever try to argue that with African-American people - ever. You'll get called a racist almost immediately.Turquoise wrote:
I wasn't suggesting that slavery justifies Gates's attitude. I think you'll find that you and I probably agree on more than you would expect in the realm of social equality.
For example, I believe affirmative action is outdated.
We should be helping the poor regardless of race.
And exactly. I agree with you wholeheartedly.
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Well, I think I may have changed the minds of some of them, especially when I explain that by making this change, poor blacks would still receive help. It would just remove rich and middle class blacks from the program, because they don't need the help.nukchebi0 wrote:
I never heard that a prominent African-American actually argued against affirmative action (seven 'A' words, lel). How do your opponents respond, aside from pausing, when they hear you mention it?Turquoise wrote:
Pretty much... although they usually have to pause first when I show them that William Julius Wilson (a black sociologist) supports the changing of affirmative action to reflect class not race.nukchebi0 wrote:
Don't ever try to argue that with African-American people - ever. You'll get called a racist almost immediately.
We should be helping the poor regardless of race.
And exactly. I agree with you wholeheartedly.