That's certainly not 'S.O.P' here in Australia.VicktorVauhn wrote:
(he actually drew his gun on us when he rolled up)
wait wait go back
we had a curfew here during the dictatorship! srsly and you just sit there and take that shit? dear god
edit: page 4 & still no pics? wtf
fofucksake!!!a curfew???
we had a curfew here during the dictatorship! srsly and you just sit there and take that shit? dear god
edit: page 4 & still no pics? wtf
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hey look a useful postwest-phoenix-az wrote:
Laws are different in every state. Here is some info for your state:
I suggest you follow the links and read it all yourself.
http://www.ncleg.net/enactedlegislation … er_90.html§ 90‑94. Schedule VI controlled substances.
This schedule includes the controlled substances listed or to be listed by whatever official name, common or usual name, chemical name, or trade name designated. In determining that such substance comes within this schedule, the Commission shall find: no currently accepted medical use in the United States, or a relatively low potential for abuse in terms of risk to public health and potential to produce psychic or physiological dependence liability based upon present medical knowledge, or a need for further and continuing study to develop scientific evidence of its pharmacological effects.
The following controlled substances are included in this schedule:
(1) Marijuana.
(2) Tetrahydrocannabinols. (1971, c. 919, s. 1; 1973, c. 476, s. 128; c. 1358, s. 15; 1977, c. 667, s. 3; 1981, c. 51, s. 9; 1997‑456, s. 27.)§ 90‑95. Violations; penalties.
(a) Except as authorized by this Article, it is unlawful for any person:
(1) To manufacture, sell or deliver, or possess with intent to manufacture, sell or deliver, a controlled substance;
(2) To create, sell or deliver, or possess with intent to sell or deliver, a counterfeit controlled substance;
(3) To possess a controlled substance.
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(d) Except as provided in subsections (h) and (i) of this section, any person who violates G.S. 90‑95(a)(3) with respect to:
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(4) A controlled substance classified in Schedule VI shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor, but any sentence of imprisonment imposed must be suspended and the judge may not require at the time of sentencing that the defendant serve a period of imprisonment as a special condition of probation. If the quantity of the controlled substance exceeds one‑half of an ounce (avoirdupois) of marijuana or one‑twentieth of an ounce (avoirdupois) of the extracted resin of marijuana, commonly known as hashish, the violation shall be punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor. If the quantity of the controlled substance exceeds one and one‑half ounces (avoirdupois) of marijuana or three‑twentieths of an ounce (avoirdupois) of the extracted resin of marijuana, commonly known as hashish, or if the controlled substance consists of any quantity of synthetic tetrahydrocannabinols or tetrahydrocannabinols isolated from the resin of marijuana, the violation shall be punishable as a Class I felony.http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation … _14-3.html§ 90‑96. Conditional discharge and expunction of records for first offense.
(a) Whenever any person who has not previously been convicted of any offense under this Article or under any statute of the United States or any state relating to those substances included in Article 5 or 5A of Chapter 90 or to that paraphernalia included in Article 5B of Chapter 90 pleads guilty to or is found guilty of (i) a misdemeanor under this Article by possessing a controlled substance included within Schedules II through VI of this Article or by possessing drug paraphernalia as prohibited by G.S. 90‑113.21, or (ii) a felony under G.S. 90‑95(a)(3) by possessing less than one gram of cocaine, the court may, without entering a judgment of guilt and with the consent of such person, defer further proceedings and place him on probation upon such reasonable terms and conditions as it may require. Notwithstanding the provisions of G.S. 15A‑1342(c) or any other statute or law, probation may be imposed under this section for an offense under this Article for which the prescribed punishment includes only a fine. To fulfill the terms and conditions of probation the court may allow the defendant to participate in a drug education program approved for this purpose by the Department of Health and Human Services. Upon violation of a term or condition, the court may enter an adjudication of guilt and proceed as otherwise provided. Upon fulfillment of the terms and conditions, the court shall discharge such person and dismiss the proceedings against him. Discharge and dismissal under this section shall be without court adjudication of guilt and shall not be deemed a conviction for purposes of this section or for purposes of disqualifications or disabilities imposed by law upon conviction of a crime including the additional penalties imposed for second or subsequent convictions under this Article. Discharge and dismissal under this section or G.S. 90‑113.14 may occur only once with respect to any person. Disposition of a case to determine discharge and dismissal under this section at the district court division of the General Court of Justice shall be final for the purpose of appeal. Prior to taking any action to discharge and dismiss under this section the court shall make a finding that the defendant has no record of previous convictions under the "North Carolina Controlled Substances Act", Article 5, Chapter 90, the "North Carolina Toxic Vapors Act", Article 5A, Chapter 90, or the "Drug Paraphernalia Act", Article 5B, Chapter 90.
(a1) Upon the first conviction only of any offense included in G.S. 90‑95(a)(3) or G.S. 90‑113.21 and subject to the provisions of this subsection (a1), the court may place defendant on probation under this section for an offense under this Article including an offense for which the prescribed punishment includes only a fine. The probation, if imposed, shall be for not less than one year and shall contain a minimum condition that the defendant who was found guilty or pleads guilty enroll in and successfully complete, within 150 days of the date of the imposition of said probation, the program of instruction at the drug education school approved by the Department of Health and Human Services pursuant to G.S. 90‑96.01. The court may impose probation that does not contain a condition that defendant successfully complete the program of instruction at a drug education school if:
(1) There is no drug education school within a reasonable distance of the defendant's residence; or
(2) There are specific, extenuating circumstances which make it likely that defendant will not benefit from the program of instruction.
The court shall enter such specific findings in the record; provided that in the case of subdivision (2) above, such findings shall include the specific, extenuating circumstances which make it likely that the defendant will not benefit from the program of instruction.
For the purposes of determining whether the conviction is a first conviction or whether a person has already had discharge and dismissal, no prior offense occurring more than seven years before the date of the current offense shall be considered. In addition, convictions for violations of a provision of G.S. 90‑95(a)(1) or 90‑95(a)(2) or 90‑95(a)(3), or 90‑113.10, or 90‑113.11, or 90‑113.12, or 90‑113.21 shall be considered previous convictions.
Failure to complete successfully an approved program of instruction at a drug education school shall constitute grounds to revoke probation and deny application for expunction of all recordation of defendant's arrest, indictment, or information, trial, finding of guilty, and dismissal and discharge pursuant to this section. For purposes of this subsection, the phrase "failure to complete successfully the prescribed program of instruction at a drug education school" includes failure to attend scheduled classes without a valid excuse, failure to complete the course within 150 days of imposition of probation, willful failure to pay the required fee for the course, or any other manner in which the person fails to complete the course successfully. The instructor of the course to which a person is assigned shall report any failure of a person to complete successfully the program of instruction to the court which imposed probation. Upon receipt of the instructor's report that the person failed to complete the program successfully, the court shall revoke probation and/or deny application for expunction of all recordation of defendant's arrest, indictment, or information, trial, finding of guilty, and dismissal and discharge pursuant to this section. A person may obtain a hearing before the court of original jurisdiction prior to revocation of probation or denial of application for expunction.
This subsection is supplemental and in addition to existing law and shall not be construed so as to repeal any existing provision contained in the General Statutes of North Carolina.
(b) Upon the dismissal of such person, and discharge of the proceedings against him under subsection (a) of this section, such person, if he were not over 21 years of age at the time of the offense, may apply to the court for an order to expunge from all official records (other than the confidential file to be retained by the Administrative Office of the Courts under subsection (c)) all recordation relating to his arrest, indictment or information, trial, finding of guilty, and dismissal and discharge pursuant to this section. The applicant shall attach to the application the following:
(1) An affidavit by the applicant that he has been of good behavior during the period of probation since the decision to defer further proceedings on the offense in question and has not been convicted of any felony, or misdemeanor, other than a traffic violation, under the laws of the United States or the laws of this State or any other state;
(2) Verified affidavits by two persons who are not related to the applicant or to each other by blood or marriage, that they know the character and reputation of the petitioner in the community in which he lives, and that his character and reputation are good;
(3) Affidavits of the clerk of superior court, chief of police, where appropriate, and sheriff of the county in which the petitioner was convicted, and, if different, the county of which the petitioner is a resident, showing that the applicant has not been convicted of a felony or misdemeanor other than a traffic violation under the laws of this State at any time prior to the conviction for the offense in question or during the period of probation following the decision to defer further proceedings on the offense in question.
The judge to whom the petition is presented is authorized to call upon a probation officer for any additional investigation or verification of the petitioner's conduct during the probationary period deemed desirable.
If the court determines, after hearing, that such person was dismissed and the proceedings against him discharged and that he was not over 21 years of age at the time of the offense, it shall enter such order. The effect of such order shall be to restore such person in the contemplation of the law to the status he occupied before such arrest or indictment or information. No person as to whom such order was entered shall be held thereafter under any provision of any law to be guilty of perjury or otherwise giving a false statement by reason of his failures to recite or acknowledge such arrest, or indictment or information, or trial in response to any inquiry made of him for any purpose.
The court shall also order that said conviction and the records relating thereto be expunged from the records of the court, and direct all law‑enforcement agencies bearing records of the same to expunge their records of the conviction. The clerk shall forward a certified copy of the order to the sheriff, chief of police or other arresting agency, as appropriate, and the sheriff, chief of police or other arresting agency, as appropriate, shall forward such order to the State Bureau of Investigation with a form supplied by the State Bureau of Investigation. The State Bureau of Investigation shall forward the court order in like manner to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
(c) The clerk of superior court in each county in North Carolina shall, as soon as practicable after each term of court in his county, file with the Administrative Office of the Courts the names of those persons granted a conditional discharge under the provisions of this Article, and the Administrative Office of the Courts shall maintain a confidential file containing the names of persons granted conditional discharges. The information contained in the file shall be disclosed only to Judges of the General Court of Justice of North Carolina for the purpose of ascertaining whether any person charged with an offense under this Article has been previously granted a conditional discharge.
(d) Whenever any person is charged with a misdemeanor under this Article by possessing a controlled substance included within Schedules II through VI of this Article or a felony under G.S. 90‑95(a)(3) by possessing less than one gram of cocaine, upon dismissal by the State of the charges against him, upon entry of a nolle prosequi, or upon a finding of not guilty or other adjudication of innocence, such person may apply to the court for an order to expunge from all official records all recordation relating to his arrest, indictment or information, or trial. If the court determines, after hearing that such person was not over 21 years of age at the time any of the proceedings against him occurred, it shall enter such order. No person as to whom such order has been entered shall be held thereafter under any provision of any law to be guilty of perjury or otherwise giving a false statement by reason of his failures to recite or acknowledge such arrest, or indictment or information, or trial in response to any inquiry made of him for any purpose.
(e) Whenever any person who has not previously been convicted of an offense under this Article or under any statute of the United States or any state relating to controlled substances included in any schedule of this Article or to that paraphernalia included in Article 5B of Chapter 90 pleads guilty to or has been found guilty of (i) a misdemeanor under this Article by possessing a controlled substance included within Schedules II through VI of this Article, or by possessing drug paraphernalia as prohibited by G.S. 90‑113.21, or (ii) a felony under G.S. 90‑95(a)(3) by possessing less than one gram of cocaine, the court may, upon application of the person not sooner than 12 months after conviction, order cancellation of the judgment of conviction and expunction of the records of his arrest, indictment, or information, trial and conviction. A conviction in which the judgment of conviction has been canceled and the records expunged pursuant to this section shall not be thereafter deemed a conviction for purposes of this section or for purposes of disqualifications or liabilities imposed by law upon conviction of a crime including the additional penalties imposed for second or subsequent convictions of this Article. Cancellation and expunction under this section may occur only once with respect to any person. Disposition of a case under this section at the district court division of the General Court of Justice shall be final for the purpose of appeal.
The granting of an application filed under this section shall cause the issue of an order to expunge from all official records (other than the confidential file to be retained by the Administrative Office of the Courts under subsection (c)) all recordation relating to the petitioner's arrest, indictment, or information, trial, finding of guilty, judgment of conviction, cancellation of the judgment, and expunction of records pursuant to this section.
The judge to whom the petition is presented is authorized to call upon a probation officer for additional investigation or verification of the petitioner's conduct since conviction. If the court determines that the petitioner was convicted of (i) a misdemeanor under this Article for possessing a controlled substance included within Schedules II through VI of this Article, or for possessing drug paraphernalia as prohibited in G.S. 90‑113.21, or (ii) a felony under G.S. 90‑95(a)(3) for possession of less than one gram of cocaine, that he was not over 21 years of age at the time of the offense, that he has been of good behavior since his conviction, that he has successfully completed a drug education program approved for this purpose by the Department of Health and Human Services, and that he has not been convicted of a felony or misdemeanor other than a traffic violation under the laws of this State at any time prior to or since the conviction for the offense in question, it shall enter an order of expunction of the petitioner's court record. The effect of such order shall be to restore the petitioner in the contemplation of the law to the status he occupied before arrest or indictment or information or conviction. No person as to whom such order was entered shall be held thereafter under any provision of any law to be guilty of perjury or otherwise giving a false statement by reason of his failures to recite or acknowledge such arrest, or indictment or information, or conviction, or trial in response to any inquiry made of him for any purpose. The judge may waive the condition that the petitioner attend the drug education school if the judge makes a specific finding that there was no drug education school within a reasonable distance of the defendant's residence or that there were specific extenuating circumstances which made it likely that the petitioner would not benefit from the program of instruction.
The court shall also order that all law‑enforcement agencies bearing records of the conviction and records relating thereto to expunge their records of the conviction. The clerk shall forward a certified copy of the order to the sheriff, chief of police, or other arresting agency, as appropriate, and the arresting agency shall forward the order to the State Bureau of Investigation with a form supplied by the State Bureau of Investigation. The State Bureau of Investigation shall forward the court order in like manner to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
The clerk of superior court in each county in North Carolina shall, as soon as practicable after each term of court in his county, file with the Administrative Office of the Courts the names of those persons whose judgments of convictions have been canceled and expunged under the provisions of this Article, and the Administrative Office of the Courts shall maintain a confidential file containing the names of persons whose judgments of convictions have been canceled and expunged. The information contained in the file shall be disclosed only to judges of the General Court of Justice of North Carolina for the purpose of ascertaining whether any person charged with an offense under this Article has been previously granted cancellation and expunction of a judgment of conviction pursuant to the terms of this Article.
(f) A person who files a petition for expunction of a criminal record under this section must pay the clerk of superior court a fee of sixty‑five dollars ($65.00) at the time the petition is filed. Fees collected under this subsection shall be deposited in the General Fund. This subsection does not apply to petitions filed by an indigent. (1971, c. 919, s. 1; 1973, c. 654, s. 2; c. 1066; 1977, 2nd Sess., c. 1147, s. 11B; 1979, c. 431, ss. 3, 4; c. 550; 1981, c. 922, ss. 1‑4; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 11, s. 1.1; 1997‑443, s. 11A.118(a); 2002‑126, s. 29A.5(d).)
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its a felony pretty much everywhere, but youre definitely not going to prisonMasques wrote:
It is in NC.ph1shman420 wrote:
negativeMasques wrote:
You're lucky it was less than 1.5 oz then it would have been a Class I felony and you'd be sent to pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
hahahaph1shman420 wrote:
its a felony pretty much everywhere, but youre definitely not going to prisonMasques wrote:
It is in NC.ph1shman420 wrote:
negative
????menzo wrote:
hahahaph1shman420 wrote:
its a felony pretty much everywhere, but youre definitely not going to prisonMasques wrote:
It is in NC.
Was fairly extreme here too... To his credit we were off in the corner of town, back in some random field so who knows WHAT people are doing back there...Zombie_Affair wrote:
That's certainly not 'S.O.P' here in Australia.VicktorVauhn wrote:
(he actually drew his gun on us when he rolled up)
We actually brought it up though, lol. Once he knew we were just smoking weed, and everything was safe and all I was like "Damn man, that sure was a thorough approach... I think that's the first time a cop has pulled his gun for us smoking weed before, heh"
He go kinda defense and pointed out all he saw was a car hiding out in a field late at night, and who knows if we were smoking pot or dumping our ex's body
Told him we weren't criticizing, and definitely understood what it must be like to have to roll up on random cars, and that it just caught our attention...
He was a cool guy though. He let us keep the bong we had (it was a nice one too), he goes to pour it out with the down stem still in and we were all like " WAIT WAIT, NO!"
He looks back and goes "Yeah, I got my thumb on it... I know what I am doing
Checked out my friends race seats, talked about the local race track and his buddies car and sent us along our way
The time I had my kief box with me was funny too. Cop takes it, and his buddy is all like "Whats that thing?"
I was about to explain, and the first cop jumps right in explaining what it does and all.... Heh.
Most the time be cool, don't offer up anything and feel free to lie A LITTLE, but when your caught your caught. Man up, hand over what you got (or what they will find) and just be cool about it. Most the time we just chatted with the cops a bit, usually asked a few questions about our rights in those situations, talk about how they caught us... Its not THAT big of a deal, so be respectful and fourthcoming (as long as it doesn't get you in more trouble) and the cop should understand that sometimes kid like smoking weed.
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Is this going to turn into the "So, I tried pot." thread? Which then turned into the Unoffical High Thread (we have a OFD thread, but no OFH? ), which is the reason I'm here
"So, this one time I tried pot", and I ended up telling my friend his sister was hot and accidentally shooting him in the face.mtb0minime wrote:
Is this going to turn into the "So, I tried pot." thread? Which then turned into the Unoffical High Thread (we have a OFD thread, but no OFH? ), which is the reason I'm here
Edit: With my fathers unsecured gun.
Last edited by VicktorVauhn (2009-07-06 02:30:55)
Not truuuuuuuuuuue. Don't play yo' games.
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only in caliVicktorVauhn wrote:
Was fairly extreme here too... To his credit we were off in the corner of town, back in some random field so who knows WHAT people are doing back there...Zombie_Affair wrote:
That's certainly not 'S.O.P' here in Australia.VicktorVauhn wrote:
(he actually drew his gun on us when he rolled up)
We actually brought it up though, lol. Once he knew we were just smoking weed, and everything was safe and all I was like "Damn man, that sure was a thorough approach... I think that's the first time a cop has pulled his gun for us smoking weed before, heh"
He go kinda defense and pointed out all he saw was a car hiding out in a field late at night, and who knows if we were smoking pot or dumping our ex's body
Told him we weren't criticizing, and definitely understood what it must be like to have to roll up on random cars, and that it just caught our attention...
He was a cool guy though. He let us keep the bong we had (it was a nice one too), he goes to pour it out with the down stem still in and we were all like " WAIT WAIT, NO!"
He looks back and goes "Yeah, I got my thumb on it... I know what I am doing
Checked out my friends race seats, talked about the local race track and his buddies car and sent us along our way
The time I had my kief box with me was funny too. Cop takes it, and his buddy is all like "Whats that thing?"
I was about to explain, and the first cop jumps right in explaining what it does and all.... Heh.
Most the time be cool, don't offer up anything and feel free to lie A LITTLE, but when your caught your caught. Man up, hand over what you got (or what they will find) and just be cool about it. Most the time we just chatted with the cops a bit, usually asked a few questions about our rights in those situations, talk about how they caught us... Its not THAT big of a deal, so be respectful and fourthcoming (as long as it doesn't get you in more trouble) and the cop should understand that sometimes kid like smoking weed.
VicktorVauhn- livin is nice in so cal!! jealous it's so easy going~ you even got the keif box back
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comm service is up your alley The_killer2, itll be fine
but your friend needs a bitch slap or 5 - so not cool what he did leavin that rolled up beauty in plain site
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comm service is up your alley The_killer2, itll be fine
but your friend needs a bitch slap or 5 - so not cool what he did leavin that rolled up beauty in plain site
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hmmm ... don't do drugs, don't get arrested
simple concept. but, people need to be cool and rebellious so.....Swan wrote:
hmmm ... don't do drugs, don't get arrested
Police are pretty restricted here, they can get into a boatload of trouble for unholstering their weapon without proper intention. But as you said, in some random field in the back of town was probably good enough justification to ensure his safety.VicktorVauhn wrote:
Was fairly extreme here too... To his credit we were off in the corner of town, back in some random field so who knows WHAT people are doing back there...Zombie_Affair wrote:
That's certainly not 'S.O.P' here in Australia.VicktorVauhn wrote:
(he actually drew his gun on us when he rolled up)
He was probably embarrassed after pulling it out for nothing.VicktorVauhn wrote:
We actually brought it up though, lol. Once he knew we were just smoking weed, and everything was safe and all I was like "Damn man, that sure was a thorough approach... I think that's the first time a cop has pulled his gun for us smoking weed before, heh"
He go kinda defense and pointed out all he saw was a car hiding out in a field late at night, and who knows if we were smoking pot or dumping our ex's body
They are trained on this shit and probably know more about it then you do.VicktorVauhn wrote:
He was a cool guy though. He let us keep the bong we had (it was a nice one too), he goes to pour it out with the down stem still in and we were all like " WAIT WAIT, NO!"
He looks back and goes "Yeah, I got my thumb on it... I know what I am doing
This is the best thing to do, don't bother lying, be straight up, appologetic, but sincere. Don't kiss their ass, they can spot that, but be honest and just relax, take it seriously though. Most cops go easy on people who they can sense are being honest. Or, if your female, flashing your bust works well too.VicktorVauhn wrote:
Most the time be cool, don't offer up anything and feel free to lie A LITTLE, but when your caught your caught. Man up, hand over what you got (or what they will find) and just be cool about it. Most the time we just chatted with the cops a bit, usually asked a few questions about our rights in those situations, talk about how they caught us... Its not THAT big of a deal, so be respectful and fourthcoming (as long as it doesn't get you in more trouble) and the cop should understand that sometimes kid like smoking weed.
shuddap jord.Swan wrote:
hmmm ... don't do drugs, don't get arrested
usmarine wrote:
simple concept. but, people need to be cool and rebellious so.....Swan wrote:
hmmm ... don't do drugs, don't get arrested
because people dont do it because they enjoy it
get money, fuck bitches
it's all good bro, it's just a mistemeter.
nothing to worry about.
nothing to worry about.
OP, you wouldn't have to worry if you didn't smoke that shit.
lol, if police training involves having to pour out bongs I am going to have to consider a new carrier.Zombie_Affair wrote:
They are trained on this shit and probably know more about it then you do.
But no, in general they definitely DO NOT know more, lol. Like I said, we always chat it up with the cops when we got busted and the only ones that really knew their shit were the ones who you could kinda tell had smoked a bit when they were young.
Which is actually more then you would think. A lot of pot smokers, especially ones who are otherwise normal people (not the loser burn outs basically) keep it kind of quite. When you start looking at all the people who smoke weed, or used to smoke weed its a good portion of the population... and when you include people who just tried it a few times it probably the majority.
Its kinda a trip as you get older and can start relating to other adults personally instead of them feeling the need to appear an authority figure.
Seriously. And if you sat in your room with your eyes closed you could never get a sunburn, could never get hit by a car, never get shot or mugged. It would be perfect!Ryan wrote:
OP, you wouldn't have to worry if you didn't smoke that shit.
All you "ohh you wouldn't have this problem" people really need to shut your mouths. He got caught with a small quantity when he wasn't driving and was just hanging out. Basicly he was a normal kid. He will get a small amount of community service or a fine, or possibly just have to go to a meeting, then he will be done with it and if he is not 18 yet he can get his record sealed so that it doesn't even show... Not that anyone would check or care, even our presidents have admitted to smoking some weed when they were kids.
Its normal and healthy TBH. Smoke a little weed as a kid and get it out of your system. I have seen more people who didn't smoke weed in high school go on to have serious drug issues then those who did.
maybe i would enjoy walking around the mall naked. but i dont do it because its against the law and i dont want to get busted.ph1shman420 wrote:
because people dont do it because they enjoy it
here is a simple fact. you cannot do whatever you want. and if you do, dont cry at the consequences.
Last edited by usmarine (2009-07-06 17:11:40)
Then again, its not hurting anyone, you can get away with it easily, and when you do get caught the consequences are light... so enjoy!usmarine wrote:
maybe i would enjoy walking around the mall naked. but i dont do it because its against the law and i dont want to get busted.ph1shman420 wrote:
because people dont do it because they enjoy it
here is a simple fact. you cannot do whatever you want. and if you do, dont cry at the consequences.
But I do agree 100% with the last sentence. I've chosen to break the law quite a few times, and never blamed the results on anyone else.