BF2S Forums Black Hawk Down 2: Blacker than Black; Somalia ask for help.

bogo24dk wrote:

usmarine wrote:

what does that have to do with somalia?

Why is Us in Afghanistan ?

i am not going to start this.

bogo24dk wrote:

usmarine wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

Fuck them period now and when al queada changes base from Afghanistan to Somalia. You would blame the politician for not taking this chance to try to stabilize this region.

bleh........they already have a base there.  have for a long time actually.  but, thats still not the point.  its a failed part of the world.  and nothing we do short of a full scale take over will help.  so you can stand there on your soap box and look compassionate, but i dont see any solutions from you.

Right, cause Afghanistan is a paradise contry.

Good point...  but still, Afghanistan is better off than Somalia.

A large portion of Africa is beyond hope, and Afghanistan is about as fucked up as we're willing to deal with.

Granted, the fact that Al Quida is moving influence there is a good point as well.  I suppose we may end up intervening sometime in the near future.

Mekstizzle wrote:

Not all of Somalia is a shithole, there's that Somaliland bit which is in essence its own country which is quite decently developed it's just that the international community don't bother to recognise it, so it gets lumped in with the entirety of Somalia which is mostly a shithole

Or something like that

Yeah. Afaik there's quite a few Somalian Refugees who spent years in Australia rebuilding their lives before moving back to Somaliland to help build the place up.

They are working closer to international recognition btw. Think the AU is close and they are trying to get the EU to recognise them as well.

@ Shahter, not seeing which of Afghanistan's/Iraq's neighbors are up for invasion.... You mean Iran? No way.

Or any of the other countries in the area. Not seeing the point of posting that at all actually. Pure speculation with no factual backing.

Flecco wrote:

Or any of the other countries in the area. Not seeing the point of posting that at all actually. Pure speculation with no factual backing.

bogo24dk brought up afghanistan and why is usa there and not in somalia - i posted my opinion. that's all.

Ohhh my gosh are we still after osama. I wonder why they call it the war against terror. It seems that one day is osama the other day is al queda the third day is " you insert here".

M.O.A.B wrote:

Shahter wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Or any of the other countries in the area. Not seeing the point of posting that at all actually. Pure speculation with no factual backing.

bogo24dk brought up afghanistan and why is usa there and not in somalia - i posted my opinion. that's all.

Bin Lid wasn't in Somalia.

erm....glad to see everyone knows where he was/is

oh...got it.

Shahter wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Bin Lid wasn't in Somalia.

/sigh
osama "is" whenever they want him to be, dude, that's the point. if usa actually needs to invade somalia i bet you they'll find teh bloody satan in there.

I see.

Rumours are he's in Pakistan, yet there hasn't been an invasion of Pakistan.

Camps in Somalia with connections to AQ were hit with airstrikes, not an invasion.

It seems to be a circling argument that OBL is only used as a reason to attack a country. But considering OBL has never been referenced in any other countries other than A-stan and P-stan in recent years, that argument wears thin.

bogo24dk wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Shahter wrote:

/sigh
osama "is" whenever they want him to be, dude, that's the point. if usa actually needs to invade somalia i bet you they'll find teh bloody satan in there.

I see.

Rumours are he's in Pakistan, yet there hasn't been an invasion of Pakistan.

Camps in Somalia with connections to AQ were hit with airstrikes, not an invasion.

It seems to be a circling argument that OBL is only used as a reason to attack a country. But considering OBL has never been referenced in any other countries other than A-stan and P-stan in recent years, that argument wears thin.

Why invade a country when their army is doing your dirty job by fighting your enemy ??? You always see things in black and white remmeber there are other colors too.

It's their enemy as much as anyone elses. AQ isn't some cuddly-wuddly group that the U.S decided to pick on and the U.S isn't their only enemy. Pakistan has suffered attacks orchestrated by the very people the Taliban were harbouring. Until recently Pakistan was doing very little to prevent a spread into their country and there was no U.S invasion into the northwest territories to prevent that. If Pakistan doesn't fight them, it'll be making things worse for itself.

bogo24dk wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

Why invade a country when their army is doing your dirty job by fighting your enemy ??? You always see things in black and white remmeber there are other colors too.

It's their enemy as much as anyone elses. AQ isn't some cuddly-wuddly group that the U.S decided to pick on and the U.S isn't their only enemy. Pakistan has suffered attacks orchestrated by the very people the Taliban were harbouring. Until recently Pakistan was doing very little to prevent a spread into their country and there was no U.S invasion into the northwest territories to prevent that. If Pakistan doesn't fight them, it'll be making things worse for itself.

Have you read what i have written. Cause reading your text looks like you are replying to someone else.

The Pakistani Army is fighting the Taliban and AQ in their country now, Pakistan borders Afghanistan and Pakistan is also an ally of the U.S. You asked why the U.S would invade another country when the army of that country is taking care of their "dirty work" as you put it, and fighting the enemy of the U.S. I clarified by saying that the enemy of the U.S that Pakistan is fighting, is also their enemy and a threat to them.