BF2S Forums Iran: We have enough Uranium to Make first Nuclear Bomb

blademaster wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Didn't the Iranian Nuclear Agency get help from the USA in the late 60s early 70s?

yeah, so did Sadam to fight the Iran U.S. funded them, so did al qaeda, U.S. funded them against the Russians. So yeah U.S. keeps funding all these groups and at the end it bites them in the ass.

Actually at the time Iran was an ally to the western world in the region.

blademaster wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Didn't the Iranian Nuclear Agency get help from the USA in the late 60s early 70s?

yeah, so did Sadam to fight the Iran U.S. funded them, so did al qaeda, U.S. funded them against the Russians. So yeah U.S. keeps funding all these groups and at the end it bites them in the ass.

No. The US didn't fund AQ. AQ was formed well after the Soviet Afghan War and was aligned against the Northern Alliance, which is who the US primarily supplied and trained during the aforementioned war.

Reading history instead of internet forums ftw.

And yes, pre-revolution Iran received technical support from the US on an energy-production program. Far different than the program Iran is now pursuing.

This is a bunch of people claiming Iran has enough material for a bomb, it is not Iran claiming that it has enough material for a bomb.

Out of curiosity, is it possible to make something akin to a DU tank round using non-depleted uranium?  What grade of material would you need to do this?

If I was an Iranian citizen, id be demanding my government get me some nukes pronto. They have huge US/UK armies on either side occupying Afghanistan and Iraqi. Intel was fabricated to justify these occupations. My country is on the axis of evil. And until recently all signs from the US administration has been that Iran is next for "stone age" treatment.

Nukes=national security against imperialism.

Nice title, using the word "We" as if they came out and said they have enough Uranium to make a bomb indicating their desire to make a bomb. I mean I know most people would think it's a small thing but actually it means quite alot when or if they come out and say it themselves or whether it's someone else saying they have enough to make a bomb (which is what actually happened, according to your article).

Anyway I honestly don't give a shit if Iran gets the bomb, Israel has it, Pakistan has it (Pakistan are sorta in the same the region) - Why nobody says anything about proliferation in all the other countries like Saudi etc.. when Israel got the bomb yet talk about it when Iran gets the bomb, I dunno. At the end of the day, when you're constantly threatened to be attacked and two of your neighbours get invaded by your biggest enemy, only a naive idiot would be shocked and appalled at Iran trying to get nukes

They know what will happen if they even think of using nukes, that's good enough for me.

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DBBrinson1 wrote:

Flecco wrote:

blademaster wrote:

yeah, so did Sadam to fight the Iran U.S. funded them, so did al qaeda, U.S. funded them against the Russians. So yeah U.S. keeps funding all these groups and at the end it bites them in the ass.

Actually at the time Iran was an ally to the western world in the region.

Excellent.  You've blamed the US.

SO.

Since it is the USesses fault.  We must clean up our mess right?  Thanks for the green light on a preemptive surgical strike on Iran's ... er.  Wait -Obama probably gave them yellow cake as an inaugural present.   Let the party continue!  Thanks OB!  Or is it Hillary?

Could have sworn I had already replied to this. Anyway.

Chill out. I asked a rhetorical question which stated that the USA had assisted Iran in getting access to nuclear power while it was an ally of the USA.

I didn't say it was the USA's fault. It definitely isn't the USA's fault what Iran does with the knowledge originally supplied for peaceful purposes. I think, personally, it was a great act of faith on behalf of the USA. If you want to play the blame game I'd have to say the blame is partially shared by the British, as they came up with the idea to depose that dude who nationalised Iran's oil reserves in the 50s, after which the Shah they let take power crushed all political opposition and became, essentially, a dictator. All of this was done in the strategic context of the Cold War though, and probably made a lot of sense at the time to the guys in charge.* What we see in Iran's leadership now is a direct result of the Western World interfering with the democracy they had the first time around.

*If any of the historical anecdote above is incorrect please tell me so I don't look like a jackass in future.

PureFodder wrote:

FEOS wrote:

blademaster wrote:

yeah, so did Sadam to fight the Iran U.S. funded them, so did al qaeda, U.S. funded them against the Russians. So yeah U.S. keeps funding all these groups and at the end it bites them in the ass.

No. The US didn't fund AQ. AQ was formed well after the Soviet Afghan War and was aligned against the Northern Alliance, which is who the US primarily supplied and trained during the aforementioned war.

Did the US fund the groups that AQ emerged from?

AQ didn't "emerge from groups". It was founded by a single man who brought like-minded fanatics with him. Could some of them have been a part of the Northern Alliance at one time? Of course. Does that mean that by funding the NA, the US somehow funded AQ? Absolutely not.

PureFodder wrote:

FEOS wrote:

And yes, pre-revolution Iran received technical support from the US on an energy-production program. Far different than the program Iran is now pursuing.

You still get plenty of reporters and sometimes politicians that question why Iran needs a nuclear energy program when they have all that oil, seemingly oblivious that the US initiated a nuclear power program in Iran under the Shah, atoms for peace.

That program (the one in the 70s) was under heavy oversight from the US and others to ensure it was for power production and not military purposes. This one is not.

That is the key difference between the two.

True, some question the need for a civilian power program, but if Iran was abiding by IAEA and other international demands for transparency and assistance in development, there wouldn't be any issues with them developing a program of that type.

I hope if they do drop one, that the rest of the world won't be dumb enough to retaliate with more nukes, dooming our species. Just drop thousands of MOABs on them, for years and years and years, that'll solve it all.

Harmor wrote:

Source: http://warnewsupdates.blogspot.com/2009 … -make.html

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War News Updates wrote:

From The Scotsman:

IRAN now has enough nuclear material to make its first atomic bomb, it was claimed last night.

The Islamic republic, whose president has threatened to "wipe Israel off the face of the Earth", has nearly doubled stockpiles of enriched uranium in the last six months, the United Nations said yesterday.

Experts believe it would take no more than six months for Iran to turn its stocks into enough weapons-grade material for a bomb – if it decides to defy warnings from US President Barack Obama not to do so.

Officials from the United Nations' International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) yesterday reported huge rises in the amount of low-enriched uranium or LEU in Iran and the number of centrifuges needed to make it.

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But, but Lord Obama said that Iran has the right to Nuclear Energy!  They couldn't possibly be stockpiling Uranium (or buying it from Chavez in Columbia), for a Nuclear weapon...lol sad.

We have more important threats to deal with, I hear a Jew built a house!!

blademaster wrote:

why cant they just get along lol

http://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com … s-iran.jpg

Iran so far away....

lowing wrote:

Harmor wrote:

Source: http://warnewsupdates.blogspot.com/2009 … -make.html

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1263 … uclear.jpg

War News Updates wrote:

From The Scotsman:

IRAN now has enough nuclear material to make its first atomic bomb, it was claimed last night.

The Islamic republic, whose president has threatened to "wipe Israel off the face of the Earth", has nearly doubled stockpiles of enriched uranium in the last six months, the United Nations said yesterday.

Experts believe it would take no more than six months for Iran to turn its stocks into enough weapons-grade material for a bomb – if it decides to defy warnings from US President Barack Obama not to do so.

Officials from the United Nations' International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) yesterday reported huge rises in the amount of low-enriched uranium or LEU in Iran and the number of centrifuges needed to make it.

Read More...

But, but Lord Obama said that Iran has the right to Nuclear Energy!  They couldn't possibly be stockpiling Uranium (or buying it from Chavez in Columbia), for a Nuclear weapon...lol sad.

We have more important threats to deal with, I hear a JewMexican built a house on American soil!!

Fix'd for you m8.

Pubic wrote:

Out of curiosity, is it possible to make something akin to a DU tank round using non-depleted uranium?  What grade of material would you need to do this?

Any kind of Uranium will work fine, from totally depleted to bomb grade.