BF2S Forums Oh I am lovin' the hell outta this! We has an "image" problem

DonFck wrote:

Ilocano wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

That has not much to do with image. That has more to do with being in total shithole impoverished nations and simply wanting a decent standard of living. Plenty of people flock into Europe for the same reasons, irrespective of what they think of Europe's 'image'. Many Algerians must hate France but they flock there all the same. If you think the US does not have a bad image abroad then I suggest to take a trip outside.

I have.  White people are adored all over Asia.  Many of them want to marry white men.  And it does have to do about image.    They want a piece of that American dream and live the American life.  That is the image of America that they see.  Not some super power pushing it's agenda on the world.

Koreans think white people are stupid gits as far as I know.

koreans are cunty to everyone.

The majority of asaia however, does in fact, envy the american lifestyle and most women would rather marry a white male.

For my money the United States does have an image "issue". I say that because it seems that people get up in arms if you say that there's a problem with it. Regardless I saw this comic strip today which this reminds me of.

Americans realise that internatonally they don't have the best image but are content so far to say things to themselves like "They just wished they lived here" or "pah I don't need friends anyway" or they simply don't care. I think that pride in one's nation is fine, it's just nice when the pride you feel is reaffirmed by what others think of you.

But don't listen to me, I come from one of the most insecure countries in the world. Advertisers know that all they need to do is get an American or someone from somewhere other than Australia to say "Hey you guy's are awesome" and EVERYONE in New Zealand will buy their product and say it's the dog's bollocks even if it is just dog's bollocks.

The fact still remains that the US is the only place hanging "No Jokes" signs in it's international airports. I don't know about you but as soon as I see something like that it makes me want to go up to the nearest security guard and say "Hey bro, that flight was da bomb!" while winking furiously.

Yah no doubt, ours is the age of apathy after all.

Kmarion wrote:

Ty wrote:

The fact still remains that the US is the only place hanging "No Jokes" signs in it's international airports. I don't know about you but as soon as I see something like that it makes me want to go up to the nearest security guard and say "Hey bro, that flight was da bomb!" while winking furiously.

Ever have thoughts of posting one of your infamous Muhammad cartoons in Denmark?

I'd do it for shits and giggles.

Freedom of speech tbh.

I'd say I was surprised at the amount of people that think the US doesn't have an image problem world wide, however I'd be forgetting the amount of idiots who have their heads stuck in the sand if I did so.

There are definitely a lot of people world wide that dislike the US because of it's politics, no matter how much aid you send to places. This is seen even in Europe, where you still get people making ignorant comments at the US's expense. Now whether it's true or not (IMO generally not) it's clear that people perceive you in a certain way, and by claiming it's not a problem, you're just cementing yourselves as the idiots the rest of the world sees you as.

I'm sure you can get both done. It's not like it cost a lot to make a few speeches.

Probably, I'm pretty drunk and can't remember what solution the article in the OP proposed. I'll come back and post something useful tomorrow.

^^true.. ffs we are a very diverse group.

The US does have an image problem regarding Islam, lowing. Thank you for evidencing it in your OP. We can't be the "this group of people is no-good" folks that you'd like us to be and still expect to be taken seriously. There have already been enough jokes about the land of the free denying people freedoms; we need to have the high ground. The current military affairs of this country won't be looked on kindly by history if we do it half-assed.

Seriously lowing? You honestly do not think America has an image problem? Jesus this is a new level of arrogance. You do apparently don't get out or else you would see the exponential amount of people, not even just Americans, that see Muslims in the -

DonFck wrote:

I do believe he talks about people who label each and every muslim in the world to be a wife-raping jihadist who beheads his children after eating their souls, citing the Quran in front of a shitty VHS-cam, sending it to Al-Jazeera and building IED:s out of goat manure.

You know, people like you.

- way.

Stop bashing Obama because you're too ignorant to see things otherwise. Face it. If it weren't for key American acts, the terrorists would not be doing any of this. They don't simply hate us for no reason. If you don't believe me I'm sure I could muster up a few reasons why.

EDIT: Disclaimer - I'm not condoning or justifying their acts, but for fuck's sake, don't be so narrow-mindedly one sided.

People like lowing are what's wrong with America. Yes Lowing, America has problems, deal with it.

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In case you need assistance.

btw, I think America has a lot of apologizing to do; politically, financially and morally.

But I still love it, warts and all.

Our country is becoming the laughing stock of the International economic community right now.  Do you think I care about what other countries think about us on a moral basis.  Politically we have no moral basis.  I have a hard time caring about what others think of our government when I feel we lost our way many years ago.  If we get things strightened out, then I might care what other countries think about us.  Actually, no I still won't.

Turquoise wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Ilocano wrote:

I have.  White people are adored all over Asia.  Many of them want to marry white men.  And it does have to do about image.    They want a piece of that American dream and live the American life.  That is the image of America that they see.  Not some super power pushing it's agenda on the world.

My own experience in China was one of Chinese pride in their nation and a buzz of developing their own nation, not shipping out to Uncle Sam. They loved their McDonalds alright but if that represents the 'American image' then that would be quite sad. When I was in Moscow I noticed that the Russians were all mad for McDonalds but the media and the people were anything but fond of the US politically speaking. When I was in Jordan, Turkey and Palestine all I heard were complaints about the US. The Israelis loved America incidentally, with Israel-America flags and t-shirts in abundance. Throughout Europe millions of people turned out in the streets to protest against American actions in the middle east. I have encountered lots of US tourists on my travels and in Ireland who are concerned with their nation's image. These days this forms one of the less savoury components of the image of the US in a lot of the world:

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/ … hraib1.jpg

A friend of mine who studied abroad in Russia said that most of the Russians she met loved Obama (even though they really didn't know much about him).

I have another friend who recently became a Turkish citizen who apparently says that a lot of Turkish women seem to like Western European and white American men (he'll be marrying a Turkish woman soon himself), but their view of our government is mixed.

From what I can gather, our freedoms attract people, but our interventionism often annoys them.

This.

The image of the Western (American) lifestyle is great, however to put it very basically. American foreign policy sucks, and it has done for centuries. Interventionism can be great when used appropriately, but to much of the world it would appear that the US is all for intervening as long as it benefits them, and then when something happens that doesn't benefit them they will either ignore it or assassinate the leader and place a unstable, unpopular dictatorship in place.

[Apologies for not reading the entire topic but I haven't got time]