Harmor
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+605|6849|San Diego, CA, USA

American Federation of Teachers wrote:

California has the nation's highest average teach salary in 2006-2007, according to the American Federation of Teachers' (AFT) Survey and Analysis of Teach Salary Trends 2007.

The average teach salary in California for the 2006-2007 school year was $63,640 (€45,022) - a 6.4 percent increase from the previous year.
Source: http://www.aft.org/salary/2007/download … vey-CA.pdf

I couldn't find the 2008 numbers...guess it takes them more than 5 months to survey teachers.  Yet California is ranked 37th in overall K-12 Achievement:

Source: http://www.edweek.org/ew/qc/2009/17src.h28.html


I want to be a teacher...only work for less than 180 days of the year and that's that AVERAGE pay and output crappy students.  Am I missing something here?  Seems the Teacher's Union is better than the UAW.

If a teacher's pay in California was extrapolated to 50/weeks a year (2 weeks of vacation) they would be making $88,389/year (€62,532).



Funny also how California is cutting spending for the poor and the old but not anywhere near for the Teacher salaries (they got a 6.5% raise in 2006 to 2007, God only really knows how much they got since then).
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6706|North Carolina
One thing to keep in mind is that California is one of the more expensive states to live in.  Naturally, people of most occupations will make more than the national average.

For a more accurate assessment of income, wages must be compared with the overall cost of living index.
Runs_with_sciss0rs
Well butter my buscuit
+121|6493|14072
Well these teachers are only teaching the next generation... so I would hope they get a decent pay
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6849|San Diego, CA, USA

Turquoise wrote:

For a more accurate assessment of income, wages must be compared with the overall cost of living index.
Where do you find that?

Ok...but what we're paying them we should be better than 37th.

Last edited by Harmor (2009-05-30 20:34:55)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6706|North Carolina

Harmor wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

For a more accurate assessment of income, wages must be compared with the overall cost of living index.
Where do you find that?

Ok...but what we're paying them we should be better than 37th.
A good starting point is a place like this:  http://www.bestplaces.net/col/

This site allows you to put your current salary in along with your current location.  Then you put in the place where you plan to move.

For example, the average teacher salary in NC is $46,137.

If I were a teacher living in Greensboro, NC and I wanted to move to San Diego, I'd need to be paid $83,614 in order to live at the same quality of life.

http://www.bestplaces.net/col/?salary=4 … 2=50666000
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7062

63k for teaching?  fuck me.  what the fuck.  well we can stop all the crying about how teachers dont get paid enough.  jesus.

and cost of living....stfu turq.  they choose to live there.  not every company does that.  so what about people who dont get the summer and holidays off?

Last edited by usmarine (2009-05-31 00:55:32)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6706|North Carolina

usmarine wrote:

63k for teaching?  fuck me.  what the fuck.  well we can stop all the crying about how teachers dont get paid enough.  jesus.

and cost of living....stfu turq.  they choose to live there.  not every company does that.  so what about people who dont get the summer and holidays off?
Cost of living is everything.  If you look at the cost of living of every major city in California, things are considerably more expensive than the national average.  It's no different from how you have to get paid more in NYC to survive.

Now, if you're a teacher in rural inland California, your salary will probably be closer to the national average.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7017
The Teachers union makes the UAW look like rank amatuers.
Love is the answer
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7062

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine wrote:

63k for teaching?  fuck me.  what the fuck.  well we can stop all the crying about how teachers dont get paid enough.  jesus.

and cost of living....stfu turq.  they choose to live there.  not every company does that.  so what about people who dont get the summer and holidays off?
Cost of living is everything.  If you look at the cost of living of every major city in California, things are considerably more expensive than the national average.  It's no different from how you have to get paid more in NYC to survive.

Now, if you're a teacher in rural inland California, your salary will probably be closer to the national average.
no...i am talking about at least they get the adjustment turq.  lots of people dont.  and people cry about teachers too much.  pisses me off.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6997|NJ
Is that all public school?

I'd have to say that the California Immigration problem might have something to do with the numbers.. You have to think that most Middle Class to upper class people put there children in Private school out there.
signa
~~~~~
+50|7029|Michigan, USA

Turquoise wrote:

One thing to keep in mind is that California is one of the more expensive states to live in.  Naturally, people of most occupations will make more than the national average.

For a more accurate assessment of income, wages must be compared with the overall cost of living index.
Thats true.  One of my friends living in CA (silicon valley area), told me his modest 1500 sqft home cost $750,000. 
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7062

signa wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

One thing to keep in mind is that California is one of the more expensive states to live in.  Naturally, people of most occupations will make more than the national average.

For a more accurate assessment of income, wages must be compared with the overall cost of living index.
Thats true.  One of my friends living in CA (silicon valley area), told me his modest 1500 sqft home cost $750,000. 
boo hoo.  nobody is forced to live there.
Locoloki
I got Mug 222 at Gritty's!!!!
+216|6941|Your moms bedroom
and here California is... claiming bankruptcy
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6706|North Carolina

usmarine wrote:

signa wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

One thing to keep in mind is that California is one of the more expensive states to live in.  Naturally, people of most occupations will make more than the national average.

For a more accurate assessment of income, wages must be compared with the overall cost of living index.
Thats true.  One of my friends living in CA (silicon valley area), told me his modest 1500 sqft home cost $750,000. 
boo hoo.  nobody is forced to live there.
Moving ain't cheap if you don't have a lot of capital to work with.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7075|Noizyland

My mother was a teacher. Don't think that just because you get to have breaks on school holidays that it's an easy job. There's marking, lesson preparation and resource preperation; these take a lot of time. Not to mention that teachers are also expected to run one or more extra-curricular activities. No doubt this will differ depending on what is taught, my mother was a History and Social Studies teacher and these involve a lot of resource preparation; maybe for something like maths the workload would be a lot less. As a kid I spent a lot of time helping my mum with all the organisational stuff she needed to do, every night of the week and in the weekends she was marking or preparing something. Most jobs are 9-5, five days a week. For my mum there was no end to the work that needed to be done. Hell even when she got ill and had to take a day of sick leave she had to prepare lessons for the relievers to teach - and they got paid more than her!

What is often forgotten is that teaching is not just standing up in front of a class for six or so hours a day, this not taking into account tha teachers not only have to teach but act as babysitters, counsellors and nurses as well. I don't know about the teaching standards in Caifornia obviously, I just know from my experience and the experience of someone who was driven ou of the profession of teaching partly due to the incredibly high stress of the job that teaching is no picnic and if the teachers in California have managed to ensure themselves $63K good on them.
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