BF2S Forums Dead Mexican child molestor's killers aquitted

As he was an illegal, I don't care.

Did he deserve to die?  No.
Should he have been in the US?  No.

what if, what if arguments are nice and all. but end of they day, this was racially aggravated murder.

Uzique wrote:

He didn't deserve to die.

Having consensual sex with an underaged minor is technically an illegal act, but only if the parents want to charge and attempt to prosecute- in all actuality it's not really anything more than a morally contentious act. I'm sure there are lots of underage true-American relationships going on in your country too... you wouldn't jump to call them 'child molestors'. A child molestor is a completely different class of criminal to a person that has a two-way, loving relationship with someone that just happens to be below an arbitrarily-defined legal requirement.

When your petty racist beliefs and bigotry starts to justify vigilante law-enforcement and mob-beatings, then you know you're into dangerous territory. You're basically condoning and applauding the same sort of lynch-mob shit that the KKK were doing 100 years ago. Are you really that ignorant and delusional in your justification or have you just turned over a new leaf on BF2s as a Hick-shit redneck? At worst this guy deserved to be shacked up for sex with a minor, not child molestation or child abuse - besides, none of those crimes are a death sentence in waiting. Get your head out of your ass. If a bunch of Mexicans beat and killed an American who was down in Tijuana and was caught with a Mexican underaged minor, or any other range of small-crime, e.g. petty theft or drug infringement, you'd be fucking outraged and would no doubt be crying against the barbarity of those inferior beaners.

Please describe my petty racists beliefs.  Please show me where I was racist.

You name call like the 643567q346336 you are.  The Internet brings out tough guy Uzi with his uneducated liberal rants on race and bigotry.

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Lotta_Drool wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

what if, what if arguments are nice and all. but end of they day, this was racially aggravated murder.

#1  how is it racially aggravated?  wtf is racially aggravated?  Do you mean motivated?

#2  When people are taunting and fighting they always look for differences to insult.  If the dude had red hair they probably would have called him a ginger, opey, red.....  I am willing to bet racial slurs flew on both sides.

#3  What I took from the article is that they told the girl it was late for her to be out, she was with a child molestorer, and HE took offense.  He being the 25 year old man with a little girl that he was engaged to.  Hmmmm, I am not religious but I know fucked up when I see it.

#4  He shouldn't have been allowed to stay in America in the first place.  The police and judicial system failed this poor child molesting fence jumper.

FatherTed --> This case looks too messed up for a murder charge. Its possible that it was racially motivated, but harder to prove. It would be easier to show a groups of kids beating on one person and killing him. It should have been a slam dunk involuntary manslaughter case not a simple assault.

Lotta --> pedophile? sure.  fence jumper? sure. But still not an excuse for beating someone and certainly does not excuse killing someone.
It was none of their business. You have a 25 year old with a 15 year old, where were the parents? If these kids wanted to be little shit heads they should have went to the girls mother an tattled on her, or went to the cops to squeel about the illegal raping a 15 year old. They beat the guy because they wanted to and who the guy was and what he was doing was just an excuse they used to pick out their victim.

The 25 year old was a dumb ass though, they beat him and left him and he went after them... that's what makes it involuntary manslaughter and not murder and it probably also washes the racially motivation behind what started the attack. You really have to start from the time the 25 year ran after them and those events leading up to his death. IMO

Like I said before, where were the parents?

if the parents knew 15 year old was seeing a 25 year old and didn't care then its none of the kids' business. For all the kids knew its possible that these two were married. Would that have changed the scenario? I suspect that that little change makes a world of difference. What if this couple were married and the kids attacked, is it manslaughter then? Because it's a pretty thin line to say the status of the couple changes whether we have manslaughter here or not. What if the girl were 18 or the age of consent and only looked 15. Is the guys illegal status enough of an excuse to harass and beat him to death? I would say no.

I don't know where the two facts that this was a minor girl and the illegal status combine to permit someone to harass another person.

Gang vigilante justice is nothing to be proud of and this incident does smack of the 1950s where gangs of whites targeted interracial couples. The kids would not have been turning a blind eye if they had  simply tattled on the girl, but no they were football players from a party, full of spirit with a wild hair up their ass and looking for trouble. They deserve jail time. Maybe then they'll get something else up their ass to teach them a lesson.


Besides the kids were really really stupid doing what they did, what if this guy were MS13 or some other gang, this 15 year old was his whore. Those kids would be likely dead right now. Sticking you nose in other people business is also dangerous.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Uzique wrote:

He didn't deserve to die.

Having consensual sex with an underaged minor is technically an illegal act, but only if the parents want to charge and attempt to prosecute- in all actuality it's not really anything more than a morally contentious act. I'm sure there are lots of underage true-American relationships going on in your country too... you wouldn't jump to call them 'child molestors'. A child molestor is a completely different class of criminal to a person that has a two-way, loving relationship with someone that just happens to be below an arbitrarily-defined legal requirement.

When your petty racist beliefs and bigotry starts to justify vigilante law-enforcement and mob-beatings, then you know you're into dangerous territory. You're basically condoning and applauding the same sort of lynch-mob shit that the KKK were doing 100 years ago. Are you really that ignorant and delusional in your justification or have you just turned over a new leaf on BF2s as a Hick-shit redneck? At worst this guy deserved to be shacked up for sex with a minor, not child molestation or child abuse - besides, none of those crimes are a death sentence in waiting. Get your head out of your ass. If a bunch of Mexicans beat and killed an American who was down in Tijuana and was caught with a Mexican underaged minor, or any other range of small-crime, e.g. petty theft or drug infringement, you'd be fucking outraged and would no doubt be crying against the barbarity of those inferior beaners.

Please describe my petty racists beliefs.  Please show me where I was racist.

You name call like the 643567q346336 you are.  The Internet brings out tough guy Uzi with his uneducated liberal rants on race and bigotry.

Uneducated? Take a hard long look at yourself.

Liberal? I'm a liberal because I disagree with the unprovoked, racially-motivated gang-murder of an innocent guy, whilst you condone it just because he was Mexican and was banging a fine piece? Fuck you.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

The Americans were attacked by an illegeal.

löl

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Liberal? I'm a liberal because I disagree with the unprovoked, racially-motivated gang-murder of an innocent guy, whilst you condone it just because he was Mexican and was banging a fine piece? Fuck you.

The man charged the group (apparently you think 3 constitutes a gang) a second time and that's what caused his death.  He could have walked away.  The Americans were attacked by an illegeal.  He should have never been in America to begin with.  "fine piece", wow -if you say so....

Open your eyes. He was attacked unprovokedly and only stood up for himself when it became a seriously threatening matter. He was not aggressive or antagonistic in any way- he asked what their problem was, he didn't charge back and create the problem. It was clear that the bone-headed racist thugs that victimised him in the first place weren't going to let him walk away, so what difference does it make and what is your fucking point? I swear that some of you American bigot pricks will see a heavily-distorted version of the 'truth' that suits your own morally-twisted sense of righteousness and casually-implied racism. A Mexican guy got killed by a bunch of American racist thugs, that's the truth of it. The accusations of him being a 'child molestor' are completely unrelated and ancillary to the main offense- and as it has already been clarified, dating an underaged minor does not constitute child abuse or child molestation anyway. By dating a 15 year old, he did no 'real' damage or crime. By being a Mexican in America he did no real damage or crime- he was picking fruit for fuck's sake. Neither of those two facts of circumstance warrant a citizen-ruled death sentence, and no American yobbos should be entitled to take the law and their own perverted sense of 'justice' into their own hands anyway. Lock them up, sympathize with the poor guy. The end.

Uzique wrote:

Open your eyes. He was attacked unprovokedly and only stood up for himself when it became a seriously threatening matter. He was not aggressive or antagonistic in any way- he asked what their problem was, he didn't charge back and create the problem. It was clear that the bone-headed racist thugs that victimised him in the first place weren't going to let him walk away, so what difference does it make and what is your fucking point? I swear that some of you American bigot pricks will see a heavily-distorted version of the 'truth' that suits your own morally-twisted sense of righteousness and casually-implied racism. A Mexican guy got killed by a bunch of American racist thugs, that's the truth of it. The accusations of him being a 'child molestor' are completely unrelated and ancillary to the main offense- and as it has already been clarified, dating an underaged minor does not constitute child abuse or child molestation anyway. By dating a 15 year old, he did no 'real' damage or crime. By being a Mexican in America he did no real damage or crime- he was picking fruit for fuck's sake. Neither of those two facts of circumstance warrant a citizen-ruled death sentence, and no American yobbos should be entitled to take the law and their own perverted sense of 'justice' into their own hands anyway. Lock them up, sympathize with the poor guy. The end.

He provoked the Americans by breaking into their country and raping a 15 year old. 

Now you might be stupid enough to believe that this 25 year old man wasn't banging his soon to be wife child, but that is just because you are stupid enough to believe that.

The kids got it right, there was an illegal immigrant child molester in their neighborhood and they didn't embrace him like some liberal pussies on the forum would have liked.  He didn't get the hint and got his ass kicked and die.

Be-still my bleeding heart, sniff sniff.  Poor fucking child molester illegal thought he had the right to be a child molesting illegal in the wrong neighborhood.  He should have moved next to Uzi and banged his little sister/daughter.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Open your eyes. He was attacked unprovokedly and only stood up for himself when it became a seriously threatening matter. He was not aggressive or antagonistic in any way- he asked what their problem was, he didn't charge back and create the problem. It was clear that the bone-headed racist thugs that victimised him in the first place weren't going to let him walk away, so what difference does it make and what is your fucking point? I swear that some of you American bigot pricks will see a heavily-distorted version of the 'truth' that suits your own morally-twisted sense of righteousness and casually-implied racism. A Mexican guy got killed by a bunch of American racist thugs, that's the truth of it. The accusations of him being a 'child molestor' are completely unrelated and ancillary to the main offense- and as it has already been clarified, dating an underaged minor does not constitute child abuse or child molestation anyway. By dating a 15 year old, he did no 'real' damage or crime. By being a Mexican in America he did no real damage or crime- he was picking fruit for fuck's sake. Neither of those two facts of circumstance warrant a citizen-ruled death sentence, and no American yobbos should be entitled to take the law and their own perverted sense of 'justice' into their own hands anyway. Lock them up, sympathize with the poor guy. The end.

He provoked the Americans by breaking into their country and raping a 15 year old. 

Now you might be stupid enough to believe that this 25 year old man wasn't banging his soon to be wife child, but that is just because you are stupid enough to believe that.

The kids got it right, there was an illegal immigrant child molester in their neighborhood and they didn't embrace him like some liberal pussies on the forum would have liked.  He didn't get the hint and got his ass kicked and die.

Be-still my bleeding heart, sniff sniff.  Poor fucking child molester illegal thought he had the right to be a child molesting illegal in the wrong neighborhood.  He should have moved next to Uzi and banged his little sister/daughter.

Whoa,  careful there -we don't want to look like bigots for disliking child molestors.

Don't you find it somewhat puerile to boil murder down to "dislike" to be able to justify it?

mikkel wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

He provoked the Americans by breaking into their country and raping a 15 year old. 

Now you might be stupid enough to believe that this 25 year old man wasn't banging his soon to be wife child, but that is just because you are stupid enough to believe that.

The kids got it right, there was an illegal immigrant child molester in their neighborhood and they didn't embrace him like some liberal pussies on the forum would have liked.  He didn't get the hint and got his ass kicked and die.

Be-still my bleeding heart, sniff sniff.  Poor fucking child molester illegal thought he had the right to be a child molesting illegal in the wrong neighborhood.  He should have moved next to Uzi and banged his little sister/daughter.

Whoa,  careful there -we don't want to look like bigots for disliking child molestors.

Don't you find it somewhat puerile to boil murder down to "dislike" to be able to justify it?

NOBODY, REPEAT, NOBODY has justified murder or the man's death.

People just keep accusing people of Justifying it.

I justified them harrassing him for being an illegal child molester.

His death was most likely the unintended consequence of a fight which he willingly participated in.

Please put a quote of where ANYONE said he deserved to die or kudos for murding the turd.  You can't, just like you can't argue with the statements that have been made without misrepresenting what was stated.  You sir are a typically liberal, no common sense and has to lie about facts when argueing.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

I justified them harrassing him for being an illegal child molester.

His death was most likely the unintended consequence of a fight which he willingly participated in.

Please put a quote of where ANYONE said he deserved to die or kudos for murding the turd.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

The kids got it right, there was an illegal immigrant child molester in their neighborhood and they didn't embrace him like some liberal pussies on the forum would have liked.  He didn't get the hint and got his ass kicked and die.

Your satisfaction at the apparent justice in his death is implied.

AussieReaper wrote:

Has anyone else come to the realisation that this "rapist" may not have even been sexually active with the under aged girl?

Yeah, the 25 year old guy was into the 15 year old girl because they both had the common interest of my pretty ponies and found Mr. Johnson's algerba class boring in Jr. High.

I imagine they watched saturday morning cartoons together every weekend and then went to the skating rink with their friends.  Of course their parents had to drive them there and back.

ffs