AAAWWwwwwwww......how sweet (US to boycott a UN forum on racism)

2009-04-19 12:59:01

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rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6163

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8006548.stm

Washington has confirmed it will boycott a UN forum on racism in Geneva next week because of differences over Israel and the right to free speech.

The state department said the proposed text of the conference's guiding document remained unacceptable despite having been amended significantly.

The US and Israel quit a similar forum in Durban in 2001 when its draft document likened Zionism to racism.

Current language about "incitement to religious hatred" also alarms the US.

2009-04-19 13:03:23

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destruktion_6143: Was ist Loos?; +154|6929|Canada

I have stopped caring about international BS bc i realized it doesnt matter what i say, i cant do anything about it.

Also, does this surprise you? America has always taken it up the ass for israel. they have a raging hard on for that country.

Personally, there are bigger issues than this Ramm. You know that, you are just wanting to be a shit disturber

2009-04-19 13:03:50

#3

Man With No Name: جندي; +148|5877|The Wild West

rammunition. I am certain you are another forum member under a different name.

PM me your indentity, I wont tell.

Last edited by Man With No Name (2009-04-19 13:04:17)

2009-04-19 13:03:52

#4

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5888

Ok so the U.S. wants to make sure nothing gets in the way of free speech? Good for us.

2009-04-19 13:04:21

#5

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6163

destruktion_6143 wrote:
I have stopped caring about international BS bc i realized it doesnt matter what i say, i cant do anything about it.

Also, does this surprise you? America has always taken it up the ass for israel. they have a raging hard on for that country.

Personally, there are bigger issues than this Ramm. You know that, you are just wanting to be a shit disturber

well its not just the U.S, more countries are boycotting as we speak

2009-04-19 13:06:13

#6

destruktion_6143: Was ist Loos?; +154|6929|Canada

rammunition wrote:
destruktion_6143 wrote:
I have stopped caring about international BS bc i realized it doesnt matter what i say, i cant do anything about it.

Also, does this surprise you? America has always taken it up the ass for israel. they have a raging hard on for that country.

Personally, there are bigger issues than this Ramm. You know that, you are just wanting to be a shit disturber
well its not just the U.S, more countries are boycotting as we speak

And that is a good thing no?

2009-04-19 13:10:24

#7

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6883|SE London

destruktion_6143 wrote:
rammunition wrote:
destruktion_6143 wrote:
I have stopped caring about international BS bc i realized it doesnt matter what i say, i cant do anything about it.

Also, does this surprise you? America has always taken it up the ass for israel. they have a raging hard on for that country.

Personally, there are bigger issues than this Ramm. You know that, you are just wanting to be a shit disturber
well its not just the U.S, more countries are boycotting as we speak
And that is a good thing no?

In some ways, in other ways not.

Many of the issues raised at Durban were very valid, but those making the points went way too far and it ended up a complete mess. That's what happens when you have vicious anti-semites arguing the case against Israel. There is a valid case, but when it gets diluted by hatred it's not really worth listening to.

2009-04-19 13:13:07

#8

S.Lythberg: Mastermind; +429|6749|Chicago, IL

Bertster7 wrote:
destruktion_6143 wrote:
rammunition wrote:

well its not just the U.S, more countries are boycotting as we speak
And that is a good thing no?
In some ways, in other ways not.

Many of the issues raised at Durban were very valid, but those making the points went way too far and it ended up a complete mess. That's what happens when you have vicious anti-semites arguing the case against Israel. There is a valid case, but when it gets diluted by hatred it's not really worth listening to.

That's been the hallmark of the middle east situation for decades, hasn't it? Valid issues from both sides buried under religious and tribal bullshit?

2009-04-19 13:15:36

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Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6883|SE London

S.Lythberg wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
destruktion_6143 wrote:

And that is a good thing no?
In some ways, in other ways not.

Many of the issues raised at Durban were very valid, but those making the points went way too far and it ended up a complete mess. That's what happens when you have vicious anti-semites arguing the case against Israel. There is a valid case, but when it gets diluted by hatred it's not really worth listening to.
That's been the hallmark of the middle east situation for decades, hasn't it? Valid issues from both sides buried under religious and tribal bullshit?

Kind of.

I don't think there is anything religious or tribal about this though.

2009-04-19 13:50:01

#10

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6525|Escea

rammunition wrote:
destruktion_6143 wrote:
I have stopped caring about international BS bc i realized it doesnt matter what i say, i cant do anything about it.

Also, does this surprise you? America has always taken it up the ass for israel. they have a raging hard on for that country.

Personally, there are bigger issues than this Ramm. You know that, you are just wanting to be a shit disturber
well its not just the U.S, more countries are boycotting as we speak

Socks...blow...off.

Whichever way this goes though, I doubt anything different will come from it.

2009-04-19 13:51:29

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S.Lythberg: Mastermind; +429|6749|Chicago, IL

M.O.A.B wrote:
rammunition wrote:
destruktion_6143 wrote:
I have stopped caring about international BS bc i realized it doesnt matter what i say, i cant do anything about it.

Also, does this surprise you? America has always taken it up the ass for israel. they have a raging hard on for that country.

Personally, there are bigger issues than this Ramm. You know that, you are just wanting to be a shit disturber
well its not just the U.S, more countries are boycotting as we speak
Socks...blow...off.

Whichever way this goes though, I doubt anything different will come from it.

Since when have EU or UN resolutions done anything?

2009-04-19 13:53:26

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1stSFOD-Delta: Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales; +376|6280|Blue Mountain State

Man With No Name wrote:
rammunition. I am certain you are another forum member under a different name.

PM me your indentity, I wont tell.

lol. I thought it was you originally. He showed up right around the time you took that long break.

https://www.itwirx.com/other/hksignature.jpg

Baba Booey

2009-04-19 16:26:50

#13

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6903|132 and Bush

Australia, Germany, Netherlands, Canada, Italy..

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-04-19 16:30:32

#14

BVC: Member; +325|6997

Didn't the last conference end with a bunch of countries bashing Israel?

2009-04-19 16:30:53

#15

BN: smells like wee wee; +159|7070

Kmarion wrote:
Australia, Germany, Netherlands, Canada, Italy..

thats pathetic

2009-04-19 16:49:47

#16

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6977|Canberra, AUS

Pubic wrote:
Didn't the last conference end with a bunch of countries bashing Israel?

Hence the boycott.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-04-19 17:45:07

#17

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6903|132 and Bush

Australian Foreign Minister Stephen Smith wrote:
Regrettably, we cannot be confident that the review conference will not again be used as a platform to air offensive views, including anti-Semitic views.

Netherlands Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen wrote:
We will not be a party to any attempt for the conference to be abused for political ends and attacks on the West.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-04-19 18:17:00

#18

Diesel_dyk: Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears; +178|6296|Truthistan

I'm not all that clear on the incitment of religious hatred thing.

If you're banning hate speach directed against religions, then that should apply to religious leaders inciting hatred against other religions right?
So how can this conference be used for Iranian PR propaganda when their leaders spout some of the nastiest shit against other people?

Domestically I can see why the US wouldn't like it. The religious right would have to stfu, not a bad thing IMO.

2009-04-19 18:18:53

#19

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6840|Long Island, New York

Kmarion wrote:
Australian Foreign Minister Stephen Smith wrote:
Regrettably, we cannot be confident that the review conference will not again be used as a platform to air offensive views, including anti-Semitic views.
Netherlands Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen wrote:
We will not be a party to any attempt for the conference to be abused for political ends and attacks on the West.

And that was all.

2009-04-19 18:37:15

#20

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6903|132 and Bush

Poseidon wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Australian Foreign Minister Stephen Smith wrote:
Regrettably, we cannot be confident that the review conference will not again be used as a platform to air offensive views, including anti-Semitic views.
Netherlands Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen wrote:
We will not be a party to any attempt for the conference to be abused for political ends and attacks on the West.
And that was all.

eh?

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-04-19 18:40:06

#21

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6840|Long Island, New York

Kmarion wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Australian Foreign Minister Stephen Smith wrote:
Regrettably, we cannot be confident that the review conference will not again be used as a platform to air offensive views, including anti-Semitic views.
And that was all.
eh?

OP tried to spin the article to be anti-Israel and anti-USA, yet it turns out countries around the world are doing the same as them.

Spoiler (highlight to read):
Btw, that line's from the short story "Under the Radar". Give it a read.

2009-04-19 18:47:05

#22

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6713|'Murka

A poorly-researched attempt at slamming Israel and the US?

On this forum?

Say it ain't so.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2009-04-19 18:48:09

#23

Man With No Name: جندي; +148|5877|The Wild West

now that i read the OP article, good for us.

2009-04-19 18:58:10

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6455|what

Earlier Sunday Ahmadinejad -- who is seeking re-election in June -- was quoted by Iran's state broadcaster as saying "the Zionist ideology and regime are the flag bearers of racism."

US President Barack Obama said anti-Israeli language that was "oftentimes completely hypocritical and counterproductive" in the draft final communique had been the red line for his administration.

Spot on with that assessment.

2009-04-19 18:59:49

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S.Lythberg: Mastermind; +429|6749|Chicago, IL

AussieReaper wrote:
Earlier Sunday Ahmadinejad -- who is seeking re-election in June -- was quoted by Iran's state broadcaster as saying "the Zionist ideology and regime are the flag bearers of racism."

US President Barack Obama said anti-Israeli language that was "oftentimes completely hypocritical and counterproductive" in the draft final communique had been the red line for his administration.
Spot on with that assessment.

Ahmadinejad needs Iranians to hate and fear Israel, that's his entire platform

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