Obama signals he will not seek renewal of a U.S. Assault Weapons Ban

2009-04-16 20:58:48

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nickb64: formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]; +77|5913|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090417/ap_ … ama_mexico

I can actually agree with this, as a full ban would be ridiculously useless. I think that stopping guns from the US getting into the hands of Cartels is important, but there is no way that the US is the major supplier of their automatic weapons and more powerful military weapons such as RPGs and hand grenades, which would be a ridiculous accusation, as those are not in any way readily available in US gun stores. It does seem that it would be acceptable for our government to help control the acquisition of handguns and other regularly available small arms to the Drug Cartels and such though.

Finally something somewhat sane from the Obama Administration.

2009-04-16 21:03:45

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Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5887

He's been saying that since the campaign that he wasn't going to try to take your guns away.

2009-04-16 21:28:26

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nickb64: formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]; +77|5913|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)

Macbeth wrote:
He's been saying that since the campaign that he wasn't going to try to take your guns away.

With the rest of his Admin. trying to figure out how to, I wasn't really believing it until now, I am still not entirely sure I believe it will stay that way.

2009-04-16 23:18:12

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imortal: Member; +240|6967|Austin, TX

Macbeth wrote:
He's been saying that since the campaign that he wasn't going to try to take your guns away.

...except for that one time once he got in office where he said he was going to try.

There has been a lot of panic buying ever since the day after the election back in November. I hardly think the gun owners are going to start believing him now.

2009-04-16 23:58:30

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Reciprocity: Member; +721|6882|the dank(super) side of Oregon

imortal wrote:
...except for that one time once he got in office where he said he was going to try.

you're thinking of Eric Holder, who was subsequently bitch slapped by Reid and crazy pelosi.

2009-04-17 02:52:17

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Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6839|Long Island, New York

Well, atleast he provided the assault rifle industry with a quick, paranoia-fueled economic boost...

2009-04-17 08:33:21

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RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|7016|US

whitehouse.gov "Uban policy" wrote:
[Obama and Biden]...They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.

They support a new AWB, but Congress knows it is currently political suicide. THAT is the reason the Dems are not pushing it. Listen to what Pelosi and Feinstein are saying--now is not the time. They are not saying they don't WANT a new AWB.

...and most of the "mexican gun problem" is NOT a US problem. About 17% of guns recovered by Mexican authorities trace back to the US. The "90%" figure is what percentage of serial numbers provided to the US government traced back to the US...i.e. many of the guns recovered in Mexico cannot be traced or are obviously NOT US firearms, so they don't even bother to send the US gov. the serial numbers.

ASSAULT WEAPON IS A POLITCAL TERM! ASSAULT RIFLES ARE BANNED FOR CIVILIAN PRODUCTION IN THE US.

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2009-04-17 09:30:49

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ATG: Banned; +5,233|6831|Global Command

Macbeth wrote:
He's been saying that since the campaign that he wasn't going to try to take your guns away.

All he does is lie.

The Mexiguns position is that no weapons come from South America, just cocaine and human smuggling?

They can go fuck themselves, tbh.

2009-04-17 09:38:27

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Wreckognize: Member; +294|6787

Macbeth wrote:
He's been saying that since the campaign that he wasn't going to try to take your guns away.

Forgive me if I don't exactly trust a politician.

2009-04-17 09:50:42

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nickb64: formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]; +77|5913|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)

Wreckognize wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
He's been saying that since the campaign that he wasn't going to try to take your guns away.
Forgive me if I don't exactly trust a politician.

That's where I've been for a while in my opinion of politicians. They are one of two professions paid to lie, Weathermen and Politicians.

2009-04-17 14:32:22

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S.Lythberg: Mastermind; +429|6749|Chicago, IL

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2009-04-17 16:57:45

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13rin: Member; +977|6781

nickb64 wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
He's been saying that since the campaign that he wasn't going to try to take your guns away.
With the rest of his Admin. trying to figure out how to, I wasn't really believing it until now, I am still not entirely sure I believe it will stay that way.

I still don't believe him.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2009-04-17 18:14:50

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Diesel_dyk: Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears; +178|6296|Truthistan

If he tries to resurrect the assualt weapons ban he will waste his politcal capital and won't be able to achieve the bigger promise of universal health care.

Also, if he did it he can kiss his reelection bye bye. Same thing if universal health care doesn't happen in the first 4 years, he won't get reelected.

2009-04-17 18:24:30

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Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5887

Wreckognize wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
He's been saying that since the campaign that he wasn't going to try to take your guns away.
Forgive me if I don't exactly trust a politician.

What if he said he was going to take your guns away? You wouldn't trust him then either?

2009-04-18 09:44:21

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Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6747|The Land of Scott Walker

RAIMIUS wrote:
ASSAULT WEAPON IS A POLITCAL TERM! ASSAULT RIFLES ARE BANNED FOR CIVILIAN PRODUCTION IN THE US.

This

The "assault weapons" banned in the original bill were put there simply because they looked imposing, not because they were actually capable of firing fully automatic. Typical politicians ... "Hey, let's make a law that LOOKS like it bans what's ALREADY ILLEGAL and further restrict law-abiding citizens! Yeah, that'll reduce crime!"

2009-04-18 09:57:25

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krazed: Admiral of the Bathtub; +619|7082|Great Brown North

Stingray24 wrote:
RAIMIUS wrote:
ASSAULT WEAPON IS A POLITCAL TERM! ASSAULT RIFLES ARE BANNED FOR CIVILIAN PRODUCTION IN THE US.
This

The "assault weapons" banned in the original bill were put there simply because they looked imposing, not because they were actually capable of firing fully automatic. Typical politicians ... "Hey, let's make a law that LOOKS like it bans what's ALREADY ILLEGAL and further restrict law-abiding citizens! Yeah, that'll reduce crimeget us more votes !"

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and I hate that term too

2009-04-18 10:31:23

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6707|North Carolina

Diesel_dyk wrote:
If he tries to resurrect the assualt weapons ban he will waste his politcal capital and won't be able to achieve the bigger promise of universal health care.

Also, if he did it he can kiss his reelection bye bye. Same thing if universal health care doesn't happen in the first 4 years, he won't get reelected.

Agreed.

2009-04-19 14:02:34

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RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|7016|US

krazed wrote:
Stingray24 wrote:
RAIMIUS wrote:
ASSAULT WEAPON IS A POLITCAL TERM! ASSAULT RIFLES ARE BANNED FOR CIVILIAN PRODUCTION IN THE US.
This

The "assault weapons" banned in the original bill were put there simply because they looked imposing, not because they were actually capable of firing fully automatic. Typical politicians ... "Hey, let's make a law that LOOKS like it bans what's ALREADY ILLEGAL and further restrict law-abiding citizens! Yeah, that'll reduce crimeget us more votes !"
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and I hate that term too

The ironic thing is that the Dems lost both houses of Congress shortly after the AWB passed.
That's the main motivator for NOT trying again. Politicians LOVE power, and passing an AWB would see many of them voted out of office.

2009-04-19 16:42:51

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imortal: Member; +240|6967|Austin, TX

Pretty much. Politicians do not try to help "the People." They only try to maintain or increase their power base. It does not matter what side they are on.

2009-04-19 16:48:37

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Man With No Name: جندي; +148|5877|The Wild West

ATG wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
He's been saying that since the campaign that he wasn't going to try to take your guns away.
All he does is lie.

The Mexiguns position is that no weapons come from South America, just cocaine and human smuggling?

They can go fuck themselves, tbh.

the people I used tio associate myself with would tell me about how they would trade a car full of guns for a car full of drugs at the border. How it was so difficult to aquire any real weapons in mexico. How most guns came from the US

youre internet source cant trump that source. Ive also read books on the topic which helped me come to the same conclusion.

You can yell all you want about how most guns in mexico dont come from the US till youre blue in the face. Doesnt make it true.

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