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2009-03-19 23:35:21
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6409|eXtreme to the maX
Exactly this has been going on from day one of Israel's existence, and will continue.
The soldiers' testimonies also reportedly told of an unusually high intervention by military and non-military rabbis, who circulated pamphlets describing the war in religious terminology
"All the articles had one clear message," one soldier said. "We are the people of Israel, we arrived in the country almost by miracle, now we need to fight to uproot the gentiles who interfere with re-conquering the Holy Land."
So they are level with the Islamics and their jihads.
"the lives of Palestinians ... is something very, very less important than the lives of our soldiers, so as far as they are concerned, they can justify it that way."
Sounds like something right out of the mouth of Eichmann.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-03-19 23:37:51)

Fuck Israel
2009-03-19 23:37:56
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5878|The Wild West
if only the palestinians would stop turning their homes and neighborhoods into sites of origin.


dilbert, if you think a soldier in a combat zone is going to put the life pf a non combatant above the ones of his buddies, you dont understand combat.


but I guess you see absolutely no fucking problem with palestinian militants turning civilians into potential targets

Last edited by Man With No Name (2009-03-19 23:40:00)

2009-03-20 04:39:07
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6409|eXtreme to the maX

man with no name wrote:

dilbert, if you think a soldier in a combat zone is going to put the life pf a non combatant above the ones of his buddies, you dont understand combat.
Thats one thing.
They are required to do so, by the Geneva convention - or they are as bad as the terrorists.

Deliberately shooting dead old people, women, children as part of their ethnic cleansing and terrorising process is another.
Fuck Israel
2009-03-20 06:56:20
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6593|Éire

Man With No Name wrote:

if only the palestinians would stop turning their homes and neighborhoods into sites of origin.


dilbert, if you think a soldier in a combat zone is going to put the life pf a non combatant above the ones of his buddies, you dont understand combat.


but I guess you see absolutely no fucking problem with palestinian militants turning civilians into potential targets
But surely you understand that the civilians are often powerless as to what is done in the community by the militant groups. The militant groups have the weapons and can exert force quite easily on their own people. The same was seen in Northern Ireland, it's not exactly easy to stand up to a shadowy organisation that is armed to the teeth and believes wholeheartedly in its own political philosophy... but does that make it any more justifiable to blow up these civilians? I think not, they are basically being spit-roasted with the IDF on one side and Hamas on the other.
2009-03-20 06:56:30
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7064

Man With No Name wrote:

dilbert, if you think a soldier in a combat zone is going to put the life pf a non combatant above the ones of his buddies, you dont understand combat.
he doesnt understand much tbh.  all he does is spout off recycled hate he hears from other places.
2009-03-20 07:16:24
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6845|Texas - Bigger than France

Braddock wrote:

Pug wrote:

Braddock wrote:


The Palestinians have been asking the world to recognise the atrocities of the occupying Israeli regime for years... what's your point?
Who's in charge of the Palestinian government?
You mean the guys that, according to your Government, took power by force in a coup?

Pug wrote:

Then what are the Palestinians doing to prevent the militants from being active in their territory?

I have seen too many posts about that...
Your answer: It's hopeless, they are cowering.



Electing the Hamas, claiming the Palestinians do not support the Hamas, not requesting Iran, Syria, and Israel to stop using their country as a proxy, complaining about civilian deaths while provoking civilian death, complaining about problems with agreements broken, pointing fingers at each other side, provoking a neighbor with a history of over-response because that seems to be the only option at this point.

"The poor Palestinian people"...yeah, so what EXACTLY are they doing to prevent this from happening?  Nothing.  They are only prolonging the conflict.  So I ask...why not?  And you tell me they can't.  It's hopeless.  Well then, I hope we seen at least six Israeli hating posts a day.

So yeah, I'd say it's wonderful to see these threads.  "It's Israel's fault...It's Hamas..."  Choose a side.  It always makes sense.  When in fact neither side makes sense because neither side will bother to step down. 

Electing a hard liners, continuing to force territory rights on areas in dispute, inability to step off of high alert, lack of negotiation skills, lack of sharing or selling, agrian technology or resources, overkill overkill overkill.

Both sides suck.  Recognize that.

CameronPoe wrote:

Perhaps we must continue to talk about it because we're partly to blame and because we don't hold Israel to the same standards as we hold the Arabs, which sets a horrid example.
Oh really?  What's the difference in standards?  You mean like all of us talking about it?  How much of you, and all of us combined has stopped the Israelis from bombing?  How much of everyone favoring the Israeli cause prevented the Hamas from attacking Israel?

There's no teeth in these standards...Who gives a shit about standards?  What...feel guilty or something?
2009-03-20 07:43:31
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6593|Éire
Both sides do suck Pug.

What annoys me though is that some people on this forum (not you necessarily) will continually decry the harming and killing of civilians when it is carried out by Palestinians but will not condemn it when it is the IDF that are responsible for it. I can't think of many Palestinian sympathizers on this forum (bar maybe Rammunition!) who have condoned civilian deaths at the hands of Hamas.

A perfect example was lowing going on and on about the use of human shields and how disgusting this was, and then when evidence was presented showing the Israelis using human shields he completely changed his tune and condoned it. It's this kind of unsustainable reactionary opinion that is at the root of so many of the world's problems.
2009-03-20 08:10:08
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6845|Texas - Bigger than France
I'll try to argue a little more on the Palestinian side as well...typecasting is a bitch
2009-03-20 09:37:13
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6858

Pug wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Perhaps we must continue to talk about it because we're partly to blame and because we don't hold Israel to the same standards as we hold the Arabs, which sets a horrid example.
Oh really?  What's the difference in standards?  You mean like all of us talking about it?  How much of you, and all of us combined has stopped the Israelis from bombing?  How much of everyone favoring the Israeli cause prevented the Hamas from attacking Israel?

There's no teeth in these standards...Who gives a shit about standards?  What...feel guilty or something?
Do we engage in arms trade with Iran? No. Do we engage in arms trade (nay aid!) with Israel? Yes. Ethically and morally wrong. Do western governments criticise Israeli human rights violations in the same manner as they berate those of Russia, China or others? No, of course not. Never very vocally or meaningfully at any rate. Why? Because of holocaust guilt and because deep down we know we helped create this shit through League of Nations resolutions and poorly executed post-WWI European imperalism. Zimbabwe has been made a paraiah for their abuses - why not Israel? The fact we created Hamas through our facilitation of an Israeli state and our blind eye to their imperialism makes us complicit and responsible for righting our wrongs by punishing Israel. Punishing Israel does not legitimise Hamas, they are still terrorist scum. The point is that so are Israel, we are partly to blame and the hypocrisy of it all is mindblowing in the context of western stances on other issues and other nations.
2009-03-20 10:02:46
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6845|Texas - Bigger than France
Western aid goes to Palestine as well, which is in bed with the Hamas.  Of course the West isn't going to back off from Israeli aid unless Iran backs off from Hamas aid.   Hypocrisy everywhere.

Basically both sides have got to want peace, which means backing off from their agendas.  I believe with no aid, it'll just take longer - it's a zero sum game until both sides agree to change.

Which brings me to my next point...how was St. Paddy's day?  Do you guys drink green beer over there?
2009-03-20 10:10:35
rdx-fx
...
+955|6894

Dilbert_X wrote:

man with no name wrote:

dilbert, if you think a soldier in a combat zone is going to put the life of a non-combatant above the ones of his buddies, you dont understand combat.
Thats one thing.
They are required to do so, by the Geneva convention - or they are as bad as the terrorists.
Dilbert, that was a stunningly bad distortion, even by your standards.
2009-03-20 10:43:29
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5878|The Wild West

usmarine wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

dilbert, if you think a soldier in a combat zone is going to put the life pf a non combatant above the ones of his buddies, you dont understand combat.
he doesnt understand much tbh.  all he does is spout off recycled hate he hears from other places.
yup
2009-03-20 10:56:18
rammunition
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FUCKING DISGUSTING

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- … _Offensive


worse than the nazi's
2009-03-20 10:57:56
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5878|The Wild West

rammunition wrote:

FUCKING DISGUSTING

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- … _Offensive


worse than the nazi's
6 million more, right?
2009-03-20 11:03:24
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6164

Man With No Name wrote:

rammunition wrote:

FUCKING DISGUSTING

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- … _Offensive


worse than the nazi's
6 million more, right?
LOL, i knew it wouldn't be long before the "golden holocaust card" was put on the table
2009-03-20 11:05:22
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5878|The Wild West

rammunition wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

rammunition wrote:

FUCKING DISGUSTING

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- … _Offensive


worse than the nazi's
6 million more, right?
LOL, i knew it wouldn't be long before the "golden holocaust card" was put on the table
LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA

douche nozzle talks about nazis and then he replies with the "I knew someone would say " 

youre smart!
2009-03-20 11:10:15
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6164

Man With No Name wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

6 million more, right?
LOL, i knew it wouldn't be long before the "golden holocaust card" was put on the table
LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA

douche nozzle talks about nazis and then he replies with the "I knew someone would say " 

youre smart!
the nazi's didn't just appear, commit the holocaust then disappear.


you are smart

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2009-03-20 11:10:51
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5878|The Wild West
terrible reply, come back in 5 minutes with something better.
2009-03-20 11:17:51
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6164

Man With No Name wrote:

terrible reply, come back in 5 minutes with something better.
go learn about the nazi party, ideology etc. then come back in 5 minutes
2009-03-20 11:21:28
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6803|so randum

rammunition wrote:

FUCKING DISGUSTING

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- … _Offensive


worse than the nazi's
explain to me (logically and calmly), how this is worse than the nazi's.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
2009-03-20 11:23:15
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5878|The Wild West

rammunition wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

terrible reply, come back in 5 minutes with something better.
go learn about the nazi party, ideology etc. then come back in 5 minutes
youre no good at this game are you.  All youre doing is repeating what Im telling you.
2009-03-20 11:32:33
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6526|Escea

FatherTed wrote:

rammunition wrote:

FUCKING DISGUSTING

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- … _Offensive


worse than the nazi's
explain to me (logically and calmly), how this is worse than the nazi's.
Ted, its easier to cause a tear in space/time than get a logical answer from him
2009-03-20 11:36:22
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6821|Montucky

FatherTed wrote:

rammunition wrote:

FUCKING DISGUSTING

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- … _Offensive


worse than the nazi's
explain to me (logically and calmly), how this is worse than the nazi's.
apperantly he's never been on T-Shirt Hell.com
2009-03-20 12:01:37
AutralianChainsaw
Member
+65|6501
Those t-shirts are disgusting but i guess most of the people here find it ok since they are targeting palestinians..

I wonder what the reaction would be if it was arab made t-shirts showing pregnant israeli women getting aimed at.

Btw why is rammuniton banned?  Keep going mods and only pro israeli warmongers and arab haters will be left standing in this section.
2009-03-20 12:09:41
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5878|The Wild West

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Those t-shirts are disgusting but i guess most of the people here find it ok since they are targeting palestinians..

I wonder what the reaction would be if it was arab made t-shirts showing pregnant israeli women getting aimed at.

Btw why is rammuniton banned?  Keep going mods and only pro israeli warmongers and arab haters will be left standing in this section.
you have no problem with children marching in parades with ak's and mock suicide vests.  yeah, your opinion really matters here.


https://www.tchirts.com/store/images/T/Gaza_strip_Club_t-shirt_T-03-01.gif

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