Irish Terrorism

2009-03-09 18:06:57

#101

Chorcai: Member; +49|6934|Ireland

JahManRed wrote:
usmarine wrote:
maybe the Brits will get pwned again
Not the first time you have jibed at the British got defeated. There where no winners. No one won. It was compromise on both sides that brought about peace.
The only way you would agree that the Brits could have "won" was by bombing half of Belfast with F16s killing innocents and creating more terrorists. You seam to think that's working in Palestine and Iraqi. Is that the best way to do things looking at the results?
The Brits knew after decades, that trying to defeat a guerrilla army with a stand up army wouldn't work. They tried to tell the US planners that in the run up to the Iraqi war and where ignored. The Brits could never have defeated the IRA. The US with F18s and Apaches and some other shinny toys wouldn't have been able to do it either. Compromise is the only way forward in this kinda situation.

The Brits talked with Jerry Adams a Co to find a compromise, the US talks to Muqtada al-Sadr and Co to the same aim and peace seams to be getting closer. So the US is being pwned too according to your logic.
One of the reasons the war went on so long was many Americans, who didn't actually understand the true nature of the conflict were blindly supporting & sending money across the Atlantic to fund it. I'd hoped that 9/11 might open some US eyes, but obviously not all of them.

I have to say your post is very well put, I think in fairness to the Brits in Iraq/Afganistan they are doing a great job mainly due to the North of Ireland. I seen on the TV I think it was when Robert Fisk was there could be wrong, but the reporter said the Iraq's would rather walk up to the Brits rather than the US, why ? They shoot 1st ask later.

I really hope that NI will be ok, both Ireland and the UK really doesnt need this right now.

I thought it was Robert Fisk but in fact the man I was thinking about was John Simpson, a BBC report shown around this time is what I was on about. When John interviews a few Iraq army men who said they would rather give up to the British rather than the US... it was TV shorty after this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2921807.stm

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2009-03-09 18:10:07

#102

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7048

Chorcai wrote:
They shoot 1st ask later.

lol

2009-03-10 01:26:12

#103

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6779|N. Ireland

david363 wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7933990.stm

I just hope the parties can unify and stop this before it is too late. I'm glad that SF + DUP are actually agreeing and working together, because right now that's really all that matters.

ATG wrote:
So, I thought IRA had been defanged through the political process led by Sinn Féin?

What's the beef?
Why is this flaring up now?

Yeah what Ted said - this was a split group from the IRA, the "real IRA". When SF did advocate using force to secure a united Ireland (ironically this is what they first split over) it made the party a love/hate one. And once its campaign ended and it began using peaceful means to achieve a united Ireland, clearly some weren't very happy. So now Republicans are taking matters into their own hands.

2009-03-10 02:40:17

#104

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6786|so randum

Has anyone claimed this one?

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2009-03-10 03:53:17

#105

david363: Crotch fires and you: the untold story; +314|7025|Comber, Northern Ireland

yeah just read on bbc "Dissident republicans, the Continuity IRA, have claimed they murdered a policeman in Northern Ireland."

2009-03-10 05:27:03

#106

Chorcai: Member; +49|6934|Ireland

usmarine wrote:
Chorcai wrote:
They shoot 1st ask later.
lol

yea lol... *rolls eyes*

2009-03-10 05:53:10

#107

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6951|NT, like Mick Dundee

Chorcai wrote:
usmarine wrote:
Chorcai wrote:
They shoot 1st ask later.
lol
yea lol... *rolls eyes*

How many Iraqi citizens do you know that have lived there since the invasion? Ever ask any of them about this?

A piece of anecdotal evidence in a news report does not make a fact. See marine it's shit like this we need GS for, he was great for setting people straight about Iraq.

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2009-03-10 07:24:43

#108

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7048

Flecco wrote:
See marine it's shit like this we need GS for, he was great for setting people straight about Iraq.

He was of course. i for one let them run wild with their retardedness. but, seems he was sick of it also since he asked to be perma banned.

2009-03-10 07:39:29

#109

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6907|London, England

david363 wrote:
yeah just read on bbc "Dissident republicans, the Continuity IRA, have claimed they murdered a policeman in Northern Ireland."

lol how many "splinter" groups are there? Why can't we just do what we do in Afghanistan and put them all under the same banner

2009-03-10 07:41:06

#110

Chorcai: Member; +49|6934|Ireland

Flecco wrote:
Chorcai wrote:
usmarine wrote:

lol
yea lol... *rolls eyes*
How many Iraqi citizens do you know that have lived there since the invasion? Ever ask any of them about this?

A piece of anecdotal evidence in a news report does not make a fact. See marine it's shit like this we need GS for, he was great for setting people straight about Iraq.

Oh come on get of your higher than mighty horse.

2009-03-10 08:25:02

#111

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6509|Escea

Chorcai wrote:
Flecco wrote:
Chorcai wrote:

yea lol... *rolls eyes*
How many Iraqi citizens do you know that have lived there since the invasion? Ever ask any of them about this?

A piece of anecdotal evidence in a news report does not make a fact. See marine it's shit like this we need GS for, he was great for setting people straight about Iraq.
Oh come on get of your higher than mighty horse.

Mate you have to realise that what you said was pretty much a mass generalisation of the procedures used by the entire US ground forces, which simply isn't true.

2009-03-10 08:55:50

#112

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6786|so randum

Mekstizzle wrote:
david363 wrote:
yeah just read on bbc "Dissident republicans, the Continuity IRA, have claimed they murdered a policeman in Northern Ireland."
lol how many "splinter" groups are there? Why can't we just do what we do in Afghanistan and put them all under the same banner

because they all have differing ideas, motivation and interests. You can't deal with extremism of any kind with a blanket effect, it clearly doesn't work.

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2009-03-10 09:07:23

#113

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6951|NT, like Mick Dundee

Chorcai wrote:
Flecco wrote:
Chorcai wrote:
yea lol... *rolls eyes*
How many Iraqi citizens do you know that have lived there since the invasion? Ever ask any of them about this?

A piece of anecdotal evidence in a news report does not make a fact. See marine it's shit like this we need GS for, he was great for setting people straight about Iraq.
Oh come on get of your higher than mighty horse.

I was against the invasion from the beginning, but saying that all US soldiers shoot first and ask questions later, or assuming that all US governments formed in history act in the same way to perceived external threats is similar to me saying all Irish people are alcoholics. Just ridiculous.

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2009-03-10 09:15:48

#114

imortal: Member; +240|6951|Austin, TX

Flecco wrote:
Chorcai wrote:
Flecco wrote:

How many Iraqi citizens do you know that have lived there since the invasion? Ever ask any of them about this?

A piece of anecdotal evidence in a news report does not make a fact. See marine it's shit like this we need GS for, he was great for setting people straight about Iraq.
Oh come on get of your higher than mighty horse.
I was against the invasion from the beginning, but saying that all US soldiers shoot first and ask questions later, or assuming that all US governments formed in history act in the same way to external threats is similar to me saying all Irish people are alcoholics. Just ridiculous.

NO! Let me keep my beloved stereotypes! Please? Are the ones who aren't alchoholics at least leprichauns?

...sorry, I couldn't resist.

2009-03-10 15:06:45

#115

Chorcai: Member; +49|6934|Ireland

M.O.A.B wrote:
Chorcai wrote:
Flecco wrote:

How many Iraqi citizens do you know that have lived there since the invasion? Ever ask any of them about this?

A piece of anecdotal evidence in a news report does not make a fact. See marine it's shit like this we need GS for, he was great for setting people straight about Iraq.
Oh come on get of your higher than mighty horse.
Mate you have to realise that what you said was pretty much a mass generalisation of the procedures used by the entire US ground forces, which simply isn't true.

Give me a break, I didnt say it was every US army personal, I know dam well that not all of them are shoot 1st ask later.

2009-03-10 15:31:28

#116

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6576|Éire

Lotta_Drool wrote:
I sure hope the crown is able to protect his subjects. I wonder how these citizens got the guns? Perhaps they didn't realize that it was illegal and someone just needs to let them know.

Ireland is in dire need of a public service anouncement or a new gun law that outlaws bullets.

Just imagine how much fun the six counties would be right now if every single citizen had a private stockpile of weapons! Thankfully it's just a small number of dissidents running around playing cowboys and indians and not the entire population.

This is so completely not a gun ownership debate, this is entirely political, it's a different ball-game altogether.

2009-03-10 16:03:18

#117

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6786|so randum

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u … 880746.ece

A quick (really really quick) breakdown of some of the groups around.

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2009-03-10 16:14:38

#118

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6509|Escea

Chorcai wrote:
M.O.A.B wrote:
Chorcai wrote:

Oh come on get of your higher than mighty horse.
Mate you have to realise that what you said was pretty much a mass generalisation of the procedures used by the entire US ground forces, which simply isn't true.
Give me a break, I didnt say it was every US army personal, I know dam well that not all of them are shoot 1st ask later.

2009-03-11 04:46:55

#119

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6961|Canberra, AUS

Chorcai wrote:
M.O.A.B wrote:
Chorcai wrote:

Oh come on get of your higher than mighty horse.
Mate you have to realise that what you said was pretty much a mass generalisation of the procedures used by the entire US ground forces, which simply isn't true.
Give me a break, I didnt say it was every US army personal, I know dam well that not all of them are shoot 1st ask later.

I seen on the TV I think it was when Robert Fisk was there could be wrong, but the reporter said the Iraq's would rather walk up to the Brits rather than the US, why ? They shoot 1st ask later.

That certainly was the insinuation.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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2009-03-11 06:18:51

#120

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6786|so randum

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7936332.stm

Protests planned.

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2009-03-11 19:18:36

#121

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6786|so randum

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u … 891514.ece

UDA response

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2009-03-12 03:11:20

#122

Chorcai: Member; +49|6934|Ireland

Gerry Adams was on newstalk106 this morning, talked like he was reading out loud.

2009-03-12 05:42:28

#123

IG-Calibre: comhalta; +226|7028|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann

I got stopped and searched on the road this morning at my first ever all female police checkpoint - it was kinda sexy tbh, chicks with guns being all bossy..

2009-03-12 08:56:37

#124

Vilham: Say wat!?; +580|7052|UK

FatherTed wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
david363 wrote:
yeah just read on bbc "Dissident republicans, the Continuity IRA, have claimed they murdered a policeman in Northern Ireland."
lol how many "splinter" groups are there? Why can't we just do what we do in Afghanistan and put them all under the same banner
because they all have differing ideas, motivation and interests. You can't deal with extremism of any kind with a blanket effect, it clearly doesn't work.

Actually if anything its probably a very good idea to blanket them all, it shows you don't consider any of them different, they are all criminals. Helps break down their ideology.

2009-03-12 10:27:20

#125

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6786|so randum

Vilham wrote:
FatherTed wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:

lol how many "splinter" groups are there? Why can't we just do what we do in Afghanistan and put them all under the same banner
because they all have differing ideas, motivation and interests. You can't deal with extremism of any kind with a blanket effect, it clearly doesn't work.
Actually if anything its probably a very good idea to blanket them all, it shows you don't consider any of them different, they are all criminals. Helps break down their ideology.

Hadn't considered than angle, good point.

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