We should've sent Rick to talk some sense into Congress before they signed this bill they didn't read ...
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1039849853
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1039849853
He's pretty entertaining. lol
..and he'd probably do a better job in Congress than most of the people currently in it.
..and he'd probably do a better job in Congress than most of the people currently in it.
I'm surprised that CNBC didn't fire him on the spot. Good for him!
I was wondering if the Santelli rant was worth posting.
I have to agree that they shouldn't bail out these home owners, but the reason has nothing to do with Santelli's rant about redistribution of wealth. Did you notice how the other commentators bristled at the notion that the market was fallible.... And that is where Santelli and Kudlow are wrong. They look high priests in a new market religion cult where the true believers deserve all the spoils regardless of the ramifications to the country.
The fact is that the housing bubble and all the other bubbles have to find bottom and go below that before the economy can come back.
Any money sent to these people will do nothing but delay the inevitable bottom and waste money.
Mortgages should be renegotiated, banks should realize principle losses BUT the govt should not put out one penny to the home owners or the banks.
Let the market find bottom and let the insolvent banks go under. (on this I agree with Kudlow and Santelli)
If the govt money is put towards infrastructure to set the stage for the next boom then maybe the next boom won't be bubble based because that's what we need a recovery that is not "bubble based."
and until the economy rebounds the govt is going to need to spend a lot on social programs to keep people from starving. (on this I know Santelli and Kudlow would disagree and they STFU for their lack of pragmatism - I hope Obama puts a special tax on Santelli's Chicago supply side crooks.
I have to agree that they shouldn't bail out these home owners, but the reason has nothing to do with Santelli's rant about redistribution of wealth. Did you notice how the other commentators bristled at the notion that the market was fallible.... And that is where Santelli and Kudlow are wrong. They look high priests in a new market religion cult where the true believers deserve all the spoils regardless of the ramifications to the country.
The fact is that the housing bubble and all the other bubbles have to find bottom and go below that before the economy can come back.
Any money sent to these people will do nothing but delay the inevitable bottom and waste money.
Mortgages should be renegotiated, banks should realize principle losses BUT the govt should not put out one penny to the home owners or the banks.
Let the market find bottom and let the insolvent banks go under. (on this I agree with Kudlow and Santelli)
If the govt money is put towards infrastructure to set the stage for the next boom then maybe the next boom won't be bubble based because that's what we need a recovery that is not "bubble based."
and until the economy rebounds the govt is going to need to spend a lot on social programs to keep people from starving. (on this I know Santelli and Kudlow would disagree and they STFU for their lack of pragmatism - I hope Obama puts a special tax on Santelli's Chicago supply side crooks.
Last edited by Diesel_dyk (2009-02-19 19:51:12)
Santelli for President...good common fucking sense...
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I bet MSNBC didn't even show the clip...except to trash Santelli for not prostrating himself before The Obama.{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
I'm surprised that CNBC didn't fire him on the spot. Good for him!
On topic: He's spot on. And it pissed some people off....but just those who should have known what he said already. The "average Joe" interviews that have been broadcast of late are pretty much in line with Santelli's views.
Personally, I understand (in the bigger economic scheme) why what's being done must be done--but I think there should still be ramifications for the people who didn't do their part. There's nothing on the backside of all of this to hold those who behaved irresponsibly responsible for their actions.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
boom headshot. i love it.
In certain ways, I can see where you're coming from, but the reason behind this crisis isn't purely deregulation. It certainly isn't the fault of the market acting alone.Diesel_dyk wrote:
I was wondering if the Santelli rant was worth posting.
I have to agree that they shouldn't bail out these home owners, but the reason has nothing to do with Santelli's rant about redistribution of wealth. Did you notice how the other commentators bristled at the notion that the market was fallible.... And that is where Santelli and Kudlow are wrong. They look high priests in a new market religion cult where the true believers deserve all the spoils regardless of the ramifications to the country.
The fact is that the housing bubble and all the other bubbles have to find bottom and go below that before the economy can come back.
Any money sent to these people will do nothing but delay the inevitable bottom and waste money.
Mortgages should be renegotiated, banks should realize principle losses BUT the govt should not put out one penny to the home owners or the banks.
Let the market find bottom and let the insolvent banks go under. (on this I agree with Kudlow and Santelli)
If the govt money is put towards infrastructure to set the stage for the next boom then maybe the next boom won't be bubble based because that's what we need a recovery that is not "bubble based."
and until the economy rebounds the govt is going to need to spend a lot on social programs to keep people from starving. (on this I know Santelli and Kudlow would disagree and they STFU for their lack of pragmatism - I hope Obama puts a special tax on Santelli's Chicago supply side crooks.
Basically, what happened was that the government created some pretty stupid regulations (like the CRA) while deregulating things they shouldn't have (with things like the Gramm-Leach-Billey Act). Then, you had lenders doing some really stupid things in the pursuit of reckless greed, and voila... the bubble burst and the shitstorm has begun...
The only way forward is essentially letting the market clear itself.
Tomorrow.
http://www.nationwidechicagoteaparty.com/It’s really on. Tomorrow, thousands of sick and tired taxpayers on the ground and online will participate in “Tea Parties” across the country. Go here for links and locations.
If you can’t make it to a protest event, one Facebook user has posted the following virtual Tea Party info:
Many of us were inspired after Rick Santelli gave his speech on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange calling for a Chicago Tea Party.
There will be many events taking place across the country where people are gathering in protest of all of the spending and taxing that has been occurring lately in government. I wanted to offer an opportunity for those of us who have to work to be able to participate.
I want to encourage all of you to stage your own form of a protest at your work. Don’t do anything against your company policy that would get you disciplined or fired. Here are a few ways that you can participate:
1. Participate in the live tweeting using the #teaparty hashtag.
2. Take part in the Tea Party rally in Second Life.
3. Writing letters to the media, elected officials, etc.
4. Blogging about the Tea Party and the message behind it.
5. Bring bags of tea to work and lay them on your desk. When your co-workers ask you why, explain the reasoning behind the protest and say you are showing your support.
6. Make iced tea for the office and share the message with those you work with.
The last two on that list are things you can do at work to show support, but if you don’t feel comfortable you can still do them, but just not explain your reasoning to your co-workers if you aren’t comfortable or if you don’t work in a really accepting place.
I hope that this offers you a way to participate and I hope to “see” you there!
Tampa, FL Tea Party
12:00pm - 1:00pm
Where: Federal Courthouse
801 N. Florida Ave.
Tampa, FL
Contact: John Hendrix; mobile: 803/571-1153
Orlando, FL Tea Party
12:00pm - 1:00pm
Lake Eola (across from Panera Bread)
Orlando, FL
[email protected]
Washington, D.C. Tea Party
Friday, February 27, 2009
12:00pm - 2:00pm
Washington Monument
Washington, DC
NORTHEAST:
Philadelphia, PA
Friday, February 27, 2009
12:00pm - 1:00pm
Liberty Hall, Philadelphia
Devon Generally, 215-259-3868
[email protected]
Pittsburgh, PA Tea Party
February 27, 2009
12pm - 1pm
Point State Park
Pittsburgh
[email protected]
SOUTHEAST:
Jackson, Mississippi Tea Party
12:00am-1:30pm (meet and greet from 11-12)
Where: On the steps of the Capital Building in Jackson
Sponsors: Friends of FreeRepublic.com and Grassfire.com
Notes: Send a clear message to State and Federal office holders regarding the recent passage of the “Porkulus Bill.” Bring flags, drinks, snacks. Bring cameras. Bring your kids.
Atlanta, GA Tea Party
Friday, February 27, 2009
12:00pm - 1:00pm
Georgia State Capitol Building ~ Downtown Atlanta
206 Washington St SW
Atlanta, GA
Contact Info:
770-878-0024
[email protected]
Fayetteville, NC
Friday February 27, 2009
12:00pm - 1:00pm
Liberty Point Resolves Marker
Downtown Fayetteville, Hay St.
Ralph Reagan
Shelby County, AL
12pm to 1pm
Hwy 280 at the beginning of the crest going into Chelsea at entrance to Eagle Point Neighborhood
Calera, AL Tea Party
12:00 pm - 1:00 pm
Where: Hwy 280 at the entrance to Eagle Point, 1/2 mile south of Hwy 119
Calera, AL
Contact: [email protected]
Greenville, SC
Friday, February 27, 2009
6:00pm - 7:30pm
Reedy River Park - Banks of the Reedy River
West of Main Street, behind the Peace Center
Columbia, SC
Statehouse
no add’l details available at this time
Pls follow link for up-to-the-second
developments.
Fort Meyers Beach, FL Tea Party
11:30am - 1:00pm
Location: Bowditch Point Park
Street: 50 Estero Blvd.
Fort Myers Beach, FL
Contact: [email protected]
Nashville, TN Tea Party
Friday, February 27, 2009
12:00 noon - 1:00 p.m.
Legislative Plaza
Nashville, TN
CENTRAL:
Chicago, IL Tea Party
Friday, February 27, 2009
11:00 a.m. - 12:20 p.m.
Daley Plaza Civic Center
50 W Washington St.
Contact Info: 312/282-9310
[email protected]
http://officialchicagoteaparty.com/
Wichita, KS Tea Party
11:30 pm - 12:30 pm
Where to Meet: Farm Credit Bank Building
245 N. Waco
Wichita, KS
Contact: [email protected]
Kansas City, MO Tea Party
Saturday, February 28, 2009
10:00am - 2:00pm
J.C. Nichols Foundatin - Kansas City, MO
47th and J.C. Nichols Parkway K.C. MO
Kansas City, MO
[email protected]
St. Louis, MO Tea Party
Friday, February 27, 2009
11:00am - 12:00pm
The Steps of Arch
Wharf Street
Saint Louis, MO
636-346-1196
[email protected]
Springfield, MO Tea Party (*NCTP)
12:00 pm - 1:00 pm
Lake Springfield Park
Springfield, MO
Contact:[email protected]
Tulsa, OK Tea Party
Friday, February 27, 2009
11:00am - 1:00pm
Veteran’s Park
21st & Boulder
Tulsa, OK
918/760-8282
[email protected]
Oklahoma City, OK Tea Party
11:00 a.m. local time on the Capitol Steps
Notes: Our message to Congress, Repeal or Retire. Repeal–1. The Mortgage Bailout; 2. The $1 Trillion Pork-Laden Stimulus; 3. The Auto Bailout; 4. The Wall Street Bailout.
Cleveland, OH Tea Party
Friday, February 27, 2009
12:00 p.m. - 1:00 p.m.
Public Square in Downtown Cleveland
1 Public Square
[email protected]
Lansing, MI
Friday, February, 27, 2009
12:00 p.m. - 1:00 p.m.
State Capitol in Lansing on North Capitol Ave.
Joan: 517/282-2042
Wendy: 517/652-5855
[email protected]
LONE STAR STATE:
Houston, TX Tea Party
Friday, February 27, 2009
11:00am - 2:00pm
Fondren Green at Discovery Green Park!!! Right in front of Amphitheatre!!
Houston, TX
281-579-1956
[email protected]
Ft. Worth, TX Tea Party
The Cowtown Bar & Grill
Friday, February 27, 2009
3pm to 7pm
7108 Camp Bowie Blvd Fort Worth, TX 76116
682? 817? 570-7910
WEST
Seattle, WA
Seattle Sons & Daughters of Liberty: A Seattle Action Network
Friday, February 27, 2009
12:15pm - 1:15pm
Westlake Park
410 Pine St., Seattle, WA
[email protected]
Portland, OR Tea Party
Friday, February 27, 2009
9:00am - 10:00am
Pioneer Courthouse Square @ the corner of Broadway & Morrison (in front of the STARBUCKS)
715 SW Morrison St
Portland, OR
Denver, CO Tea Party
Friday, February 27, 2009
10:00am - 11:00am
The East Capitol Steps
Denver, CO
[email protected]
Phoenix, AZ (Tempe) Tea Party
12:00 noon, Tempe Beach Park
(Meet at 11:45 a.m.)
Tempe Beach Park, west of the Mill Avenue Bridge. A parking lot is available next to the park, on Rio Salado Parkway.
Sponsors: Americans for Prosperity (AFP)
Map: http://phoenix.about.com/library/blmapt … chpark.htm
RSVP: [email protected].
Notes: 18th-century attire welcome. Tar and feathers optional. For ideas on homemade protest signs, check out the Nationwide Chicago Tea Party site.
Sacramento, CA Tea Party
12:00 noon
California State Capitol, North Steps, L Street Sacramento
Notes: Wanna burn the stimulus bill?
San Diego, CA Tea Party
Friday, February 27, 2009
9:00am - 10:00am
Just north of the Star of India, on San Diego Bay
San Diego, CA
619-606-0337
http://www.nationwidechicagoteaparty.com
Los Angeles, CA
Friday, February 27, 2009
9:00am - 10:00am
Santa Monica Pier
[email protected]
The inspiration : Rick Santelli's Chicago Tea Party
Xbone Stormsurgezz
oh jeez
Thanks for weighing in.usmarine wrote:
oh jeez
Xbone Stormsurgezz
oh sorry. i will bring tbags to work for you sirKmarion wrote:
Thanks for weighing in.usmarine wrote:
oh jeez
I didn't think you were serious at first. Wow.Kmarion wrote:
Tomorrow.
Thx.. now you're getting it.usmarine wrote:
oh sorry. i will bring tbags to work for you sirKmarion wrote:
Thanks for weighing in.usmarine wrote:
oh jeez
Xbone Stormsurgezz
not really. i am just going to wait for a chick to ask for a tea bag.....Kmarion wrote:
Thx.. now you're getting it.usmarine wrote:
oh sorry. i will bring tbags to work for you sirKmarion wrote:
Thanks for weighing in.
Came about too fast. They should have scheduled it a month or two away. It would have been interesting to see just how many people (through varying displays of discontent) agreed with the Santelli's rant/idea.AussieReaper wrote:
I didn't think you were serious at first. Wow.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Yes but.. you do that every day don't you?usmarine wrote:
not really. i am just going to wait for a chick to ask for a tea bag.....Kmarion wrote:
Thx.. now you're getting it.usmarine wrote:
oh sorry. i will bring tbags to work for you sir
Xbone Stormsurgezz
If only I didn't work for a living I could go and protest in front of the Starbucks. I would have dressed up like an injun.Portland, OR Tea Party
Friday, February 27, 2009
9:00am - 10:00am
Pioneer Courthouse Square @ the corner of Broadway & Morrison (in front of the STARBUCKS)
715 SW Morrison St
Portland, OR
Marine has offered to share his teabags if you are interested.Reciprocity wrote:
If only I didn't work for a living I could go and protest in front of the Starbucks. I would have dressed up like an injun.Portland, OR Tea Party
Friday, February 27, 2009
9:00am - 10:00am
Pioneer Courthouse Square @ the corner of Broadway & Morrison (in front of the STARBUCKS)
715 SW Morrison St
Portland, OR
Xbone Stormsurgezz
I wonder if Robert Gibbs will ask what houses the people who show up live in.Kmarion wrote:
Tomorrow.
I am suprised they haven't tried to destroy Rick Santelli personally like they tried to with Joe the plumber...
and it will be interesting to see how many people come out to the different locations... I also have to work so i can't make it... kind of ironic
The entitled folks who have the day off won't bother to go the rallies... lol... unless someone tell them they will be giving out free tea...
and it will be interesting to see how many people come out to the different locations... I also have to work so i can't make it... kind of ironic
The entitled folks who have the day off won't bother to go the rallies... lol... unless someone tell them they will be giving out free tea...
Last edited by [TUF]Catbox (2009-02-26 18:18:51)
Love is the answer
They're busy. Working on Jindal.[TUF]Catbox wrote:
I am suprised they haven't tried to destroy Rick Santelli personally like they tried to with Joe the plumber...
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Jindal will be ok... He had a bad speech the other night but he will be fine... very smart guy...Kmarion wrote:
They're busy. Working on Jindal.[TUF]Catbox wrote:
I am suprised they haven't tried to destroy Rick Santelli personally like they tried to with Joe the plumber...
Love is the answer
Agreed.[TUF]Catbox wrote:
Jindal will be ok... He had a bad speech the other night but he will be fine... very smart guy...Kmarion wrote:
They're busy. Working on Jindal.[TUF]Catbox wrote:
I am suprised they haven't tried to destroy Rick Santelli personally like they tried to with Joe the plumber...