Scout Update

2009-02-25 10:22:10

#351

Fat_Swinub: jaff; +125|6650

Ok I've tried the unlocks and the sandman is ridiculously good (and even better when you're hitting people next to a cabinet so you get constant balls). The shotgun is pretty good, it's nice that you can use it with the sandman to get double jump back. The drink is gimmicky but it's not a hell of a lot more useful than the pistol so I guess it's a fair trade.

2009-02-25 10:38:42

#352

dill13: Member; +67|6409

who ever said they were looking at buying tf2 its now 9.99 buy now if you dont have it. Havent played scout yet <3 natasha with all the scout nubs.

2009-02-25 10:41:12

#353

Fat_Swinub: jaff; +125|6650

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX__swbUwag

2009-02-25 10:43:49

#354

Spidery_Yoda: Member; +399|6485

Fat_Swinub wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX__swbUwag

It's amazing isn't it. Thats what I was listening to last night.

There's also a Shamwow reference with scout_misc_02

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-02-25 10:44:15)

2009-02-25 10:53:43

#355

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6003|Catherine Black

1000 Double Jumps

1) Bind jump to Mouse 1
2) Copy paste this into notepad and save as .ahk, and open it with Auto Hot Key

Code:

Interval := 30
~LButton::
    SetTimer, Autofire, %Interval%
    return
Autofire:
    Send, {LButton}
    if not GetKeyState("LButton", "P")
        SetTimer, Autofire, off
    return
^n::Suspend

3) Go to 2Fort and stand in the doorway leading onto the right side of the sniper platform
4) Get something to hold down Mouse 1
5) Go take a shit
6) ?????
7) Profit!

(c)

2009-02-25 10:56:29

#356

Spidery_Yoda: Member; +399|6485

That achievement didn't take me very long . I just double jumped everywhere for an hour or so during my games. Since I always do it in combat anyway it wasn't much of a grind.

Plus setting it to the achievement tracker on the HUD was awesome because it was all: DINGDINGDINGDINGDING

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-02-25 10:57:45)

2009-02-25 10:59:34

#357

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6003|Catherine Black

Spidery_Yoda wrote:
That achievement didn't take me very long . I just double jumped everywhere for an hour or so during my games. Since I always do it in combat anyway it wasn't much of a grind.

Plus setting it to the achievement tracker on the HUD was awesome because it was all: DINGDINGDINGDINGDING

Yeah, but standing in a doorway means you take about half the time to jump.. since you hit the roof and come down again.

Took about 5-10 mins of standing there jumping for me.

2009-02-25 11:00:03

#358

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6685

Finray wrote:
1000 Double Jumps

1) Bind jump to Mouse 1
2) Copy paste this into notepad and save as .ahk, and open it with Auto Hot Key
Code:
Interval := 30
~LButton::
    SetTimer, Autofire, %Interval%
    return
Autofire:
    Send, {LButton}
    if not GetKeyState("LButton", "P")
        SetTimer, Autofire, off
    return
^n::Suspend
3) Go to 2Fort and stand in the doorway leading onto the right side of the sniper platform
4) Get something to hold down Mouse 1
5) Go take a shit
6) ?????
7) Profit!

(c)

Why not use your knowledge of coding/macros to get all the achievements at once, instead of this long and arduous process?

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2009-02-25 11:12:01

#359

Fat_Swinub: jaff; +125|6650

Finray wrote:
1000 Double Jumps

1) Bind jump to Mouse 1
2) Copy paste this into notepad and save as .ahk, and open it with Auto Hot Key
Code:
Interval := 30
~LButton::
    SetTimer, Autofire, %Interval%
    return
Autofire:
    Send, {LButton}
    if not GetKeyState("LButton", "P")
        SetTimer, Autofire, off
    return
^n::Suspend
3) Go to 2Fort and stand in the doorway leading onto the right side of the sniper platform
4) Get something to hold down Mouse 1
5) Go take a shit
6) ?????
7) Profit!

(c)

Alternatively, download this and save yourself the time and effort of doing boring shit or making macros to take the effort out of doing boring shit.

2009-02-25 11:18:00

#360

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6685

Swinub, your TF2 stats... hahahaha.

Hahahaa.

What the FUCK did you do? Shame.

_{libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual}. _{http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/}

2009-02-25 11:20:16

#361

Fat_Swinub: jaff; +125|6650

TF2 has the worse stats system ever and I hate seeing it if I could opt out of using it I would.

2009-02-25 11:44:58

#362

Spidery_Yoda: Member; +399|6485

I disagree, I think it has the best stats system ever.

Except of course for the lack of resetting :S. Which is probably what you mean.

2009-02-25 11:47:27

#363

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6685

Spidery_Yoda wrote:
I disagree, I think it has the best stats system ever.

Except of course for the lack of resetting :S. Which is probably what you mean.

Best stats system ever? As in, all it displays is the time-played with each class?

Best stats system ever would be kill:death, win:loss, BF2-style. That's detailed stats. Who gives a shit how long someone has played 'x' class in pub-severs or gone afk in the spawnzone as 'y' class. As for class-point records, well they're pretty pointless considering custom maps allow you to easily rape 50+ points with ease, camping spawns and whatnot.

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2009-02-25 11:55:16

#364

Spidery_Yoda: Member; +399|6485

No. BF2 style is horrible. It destroys every aspect of teamplay and turns the game into who can get the most points/most kills. It also punishes you for every mistake you make. Again, look at BF2, and how much stress there is when you're having a bad game because you know it's all being recorded in your stats. People play to rank up and nothing more. Again, stress. It stops being a game and starts being work.

Then there's other problems. As you said custom maps can cause inflated scores. So what, Valve make it so you can only get stats on official maps? Goodbye custom maps + mods forever. Again. BF2.

Just look at BF2. Urgh.

I'm very very glad that TF2 opted for a far more positive and less grind-y stats system.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-02-25 11:58:48)

2009-02-25 12:09:18

#365

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6685

Yes, of course... the downsides to the BF2-stat system are clear for everyone. TF2 is a team game and teamwork is the important and defining factor, there's no place for ego-driven stats systems, I agree. I'm just saying that as far as 'the best stats system ever' goes, TF2's is seriously lacking in terms of actual statistical data. I don't care how long I've played each class, nor do I care what my longest life with each class is. A total tally of wins to losses would be nice, to encourage actual teamplay and a motivation to work as a team and win games.

And I do personally think that, if you're going to take a stats system seriously or as any sort of indication or bearing on a player, then yes they should be disabled on non-official maps. Custom maps and custom server settings that allow you to rack up hundreds of points or get tons of kills in a row (i.e. by cabinet camping) are boring and just ruin the entire point of an objective stats system. Mind you, with all of this being said, I really do not take the stats system seriously; I have wiped my own stats twice before they patched out the nifty button and made them server-sided, and even now I find that immediately after certain patches/bugfixes my stats will freak out and tell me I've just survived as 20 hours as a Scout, after dying as a Soldier, or something ridiculous like that.

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2009-02-25 12:12:37

#366

Spidery_Yoda: Member; +399|6485

I agree it has heaps of problems. And these days when high scores are very rarely beaten its almost as if there isn't a stats system. The one that's there is bugged half the time anyway. Wins and losses would be nice too.

Ok I take back 'best ever'. But since I only have BF2's stats system (and all the clones like CoD), I definitely prefer TF2's one.

There are actually much more detailed stats than they show. Download this and have a look: http://www.erlenddahl.net/tf2stats/

K/D ratios and the like.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-02-25 12:13:01)

2009-02-25 12:20:04

#367

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6685

Yeah I have used that tool, it's just proof that these stats exist and are being tracked by the game, but not used by the Steam Community service.

Although, to be honest I find community-mod integration does the job anyway; any pub-servers that I regularly visit have HL-Stats installed and whatnot, so if I do happen to be interested in stats of that nature, they're only a keystroke away. Would be nice to see a dedicated wins:loss or perhaps even some league-integration to the Steam stats page. Could really fire up the community if Steam fed stats from one officially-elected EU/US league into the Steam Community pages.

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2009-02-25 12:21:55

#368

Fat_Swinub: jaff; +125|6650

BF2 did stats right. The whole point of stats is looking how you've improved or gotten worse over time or how you seem to fair. It's only stressful when you stop looking them as guideline averages and take them as defining features. TF2's stats are completely one-sided, they only show your best bits. I have no problem with personal bests but don't sell them to me as stats.

2009-02-25 12:47:18