Freezer's guide to overclocking your processor using BIOS

2009-02-17 21:00:02

#101

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6777|NYC / Hamburg

At nearly 1.55Vcore it's no surprise to get those temps.

Are you sure you need that much voltage? It's a good 0.15V more that what I usually see for those speeds.

Try 1.4Vcore, 1.4V VTT (or FSB termination as it's sometimes called). 1.72V PLL voltage and 63% GTL ref voltage. Ofc none of these numbers are set in stone but are a good reference point to work with

Last edited by max (2009-02-17 21:23:22)

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2009-02-17 21:18:56

#102

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|6976|Cambridge (UK)

@Badman: you did put fresh silver goop on the heatsink/plate, didn't you?

(assuming you even fitted the water-cooling unit yourself...)

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2009-02-17 21:21:15)

2009-02-17 21:25:40

#103

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6777|NYC / Hamburg

considering the voltage he's pumping into there it does sound right. I get about the same temps at the same speed on my Q6600 G0 @ 1.375Vcore with a TRUE.

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2009-02-17 22:11:49

#104

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6624|Finland

yeah without thermal paste that cpu would be a goner at those voltages... for those voltages its not that surprising temps are high. i7 for example is notorious for overhelming watercooling loops hehe...

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2009-02-18 07:13:53

#105

bad-man: now say you sorry; +34|6058|one windy city

max wrote:
At nearly 1.55Vcore it's no surprise to get those temps.

Are you sure you need that much voltage? It's a good 0.15V more that what I usually see for those speeds.

Try 1.4Vcore, 1.4V VTT (or FSB termination as it's sometimes called). 1.72V PLL voltage and 63% GTL ref voltage. Ofc none of these numbers are set in stone but are a good reference point to work with

thanks max, under 100% load the pc was crashing with less than 1.55 i think my max now is 1.56 but i can try to bring that donw a bit... will double chack the PLL voltage

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
@Badman: you did put fresh silver goop on the heatsink/plate, didn't you?

(assuming you even fitted the water-cooling unit yourself...)

WTF kind of question is this.... i have been building pc's before you were born, my first pc was 486 dx33 with a turbo button...

2009-02-18 11:39:50

#106

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|6976|Cambridge (UK)

bad-man wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
@Badman: you did put fresh silver goop on the heatsink/plate, didn't you?

(assuming you even fitted the water-cooling unit yourself...)
WTF kind of question is this.... i have been building pc's before you were born, my first pc was 486 dx33 with a turbo button...

*looks for thread where whoever it was put the goop on the wrong side of the cpu*

one can never be sure... one can never be sure.

2009-02-18 11:45:46

#107

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6710|so randum

i had a pc with a turbo button once, what was the point in it?

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2009-02-18 12:01:46

#108

bad-man: now say you sorry; +34|6058|one windy city

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
bad-man wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
@Badman: you did put fresh silver goop on the heatsink/plate, didn't you?

(assuming you even fitted the water-cooling unit yourself...)
WTF kind of question is this.... i have been building pc's before you were born, my first pc was 486 dx33 with a turbo button...

*looks for thread where whoever it was put the goop on the wrong side of the cpu*

one can never be sure... one can never be sure.

someone put the paste on the wrong side????? fucking

FatherTed wrote:
i had a pc with a turbo button once, what was the point in it?

fuck if i know, never made any difference anyways....

now going back to the OC

i was able to turn down the core vol to 1.55 anything lower crashes under load and the temp difference is minimal maybe a ° or 2 i used voltages suggested by MAX for all other settings and everything seems to be stable but no temp difference also turned up the fan to 1800rmp and once again another ° or 2 but thats it, all other (7) fans in the case are at 100% speed

any more ideas?

Last edited by bad-man (2009-02-18 12:04:21)

2009-02-18 12:05:55

#109

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6624|Finland

up the NB voltage too... and make sure ram doesn't run at insane speeds

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2009-02-18 12:08:09

#110

bad-man: now say you sorry; +34|6058|one windy city

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
up the NB voltage too... and make sure ram doesn't run at insane speeds

ram is pc8500 running at full speed 1066mhz, stock voltages nothing changed

what should be the NB voltage, im sure i keep both SB and NB at auto

2009-02-18 12:09:16

#111

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|6976|Cambridge (UK)

bad-man wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
bad-man wrote:

WTF kind of question is this.... i have been building pc's before you were born, my first pc was 486 dx33 with a turbo button...

*looks for thread where whoever it was put the goop on the wrong side of the cpu*

one can never be sure... one can never be sure.
someone put the paste on the wrong side????? fucking

OH yes.

bad-man wrote:
FatherTed wrote:
i had a pc with a turbo button once, what was the point in it?
fuck if i know, never made any difference anyways....

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/case/switchTurbo-c.html

bad-man wrote:
now going back to the OC

i was able to turn down the core vol to 1.55 anything lower crashes under load and the temp difference is minimal maybe a ° or 2 i used voltages suggested by MAX for all other settings and everything seems to be stable but no temp difference also turned up the fan to 1800rmp and once again another ° or 2 but thats it, all other (7) fans in the case are at 100% speed

any more ideas?

I'm no OC expert, but it's starting to sound like you've just got a hot chip.

2009-02-18 12:16:46

#112

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6624|Finland

bad-man wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
up the NB voltage too... and make sure ram doesn't run at insane speeds
ram is pc8500 running at full speed 1066mhz, stock voltages nothing changed

what should be the NB voltage, im sure i keep both SB and NB at auto

what motherboard do you have? something like 1.4V will do for most chipsets.

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2009-02-18 12:32:56

#113

bad-man: now say you sorry; +34|6058|one windy city

bad-man wrote:
FatherTed wrote:
i had a pc with a turbo button once, what was the point in it?
fuck if i know, never made any difference anyways....

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/case/switchTurbo-c.html

"software / games would stop working properly because it would run too fast" from 11 to 33mhz watch the fuck out

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
bad-man wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
up the NB voltage too... and make sure ram doesn't run at insane speeds
ram is pc8500 running at full speed 1066mhz, stock voltages nothing changed

what should be the NB voltage, im sure i keep both SB and NB at auto
what motherboard do you have? something like 1.4V will do for most chipsets.

Asus P5Q

Last edited by bad-man (2009-02-18 12:33:20)

2009-02-18 12:42:41

#114

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6777|NYC / Hamburg

I can hit FSB 400 with my P5Q on stock NB voltage. You really shouldn't need 1.4V

Last edited by max (2009-02-18 12:44:11)

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2009-02-18 13:05:29

#115

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6624|Finland

max wrote:
I can hit FSB 400 with my P5Q on stock NB voltage. You really shouldn't need 1.4V

it depends a lot of the CPU too tho... I could do 480 FSB with my E6750 with 1.31V but my quadie needed 1.41 for that.

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2009-02-18 13:07:11

#116

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6777|NYC / Hamburg

Good thing I have a Q6600 in my P5Q then ...

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2009-02-18 13:34:42

#117

_Dominiko_PL: TITS or gtfo.; +97|6731|Polish state of EU

y is it unstickied?

2009-02-18 13:48:42

#118

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|5998|Catherine Black

_Dominiko_PL wrote:
y is it unstickied?

Too many stickys in Tech...
It's in here though http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=72783

2009-02-22 00:49:54

#119

(HUN)Rudebwoy: Member; +45|6965

Do I need a better cpu cooler than stock if I want just a moderate OC? (Q8200 2.33Ghz-->2.8Ghz)

2009-02-22 00:54:20

#120

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6407|Winland

(HUN)Rudebwoy wrote:
Do I need a better cpu cooler than stock if I want just a moderate OC? (Q8200 2.33Ghz-->2.8Ghz)

Probably not.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-02-22 01:07:32

#121

Little BaBy JESUS: m8; +394|6358|'straya

(HUN)Rudebwoy wrote:
Do I need a better cpu cooler than stock if I want just a moderate OC? (Q8200 2.33Ghz-->2.8Ghz)

just keep an eye on temps... if it gets to high stop, simple as that lol

2009-02-22 14:17:39

#122

(HUN)Rudebwoy: Member; +45|6965

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
(HUN)Rudebwoy wrote:
Do I need a better cpu cooler than stock if I want just a moderate OC? (Q8200 2.33Ghz-->2.8Ghz)
just keep an eye on temps... if it gets to high stop, simple as that lol

Well, I know its that simple and I would certainly try it if I had the CPU. I will order my new comp tomorrow, and I asked this question because I needed to know if I had to order a cooler with the pc...
But thx for the help!

2009-02-22 14:44:20

#123

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6407|Winland

(HUN)Rudebwoy wrote:
Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
(HUN)Rudebwoy wrote:
Do I need a better cpu cooler than stock if I want just a moderate OC? (Q8200 2.33Ghz-->2.8Ghz)
just keep an eye on temps... if it gets to high stop, simple as that lol
Well, I know its that simple and I would certainly try it if I had the CPU. I will order my new comp tomorrow, and I asked this question because I needed to know if I had to order a cooler with the pc...
But thx for the help!

Better cooling is never wrong. It'll spare your ears, too.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-02-22 14:49:49

#124

Microwave: _; +515|6865|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK

Now got 3.4Ghz out of my Q6600. Needs 1.4v thought still the idle temps are <50 so it's all good...

2009-02-22 14:50:41

#125

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|5998|Catherine Black

Freezer7Pro wrote:
(HUN)Rudebwoy wrote:
Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
just keep an eye on temps... if it gets to high stop, simple as that lol
Well, I know its that simple and I would certainly try it if I had the CPU. I will order my new comp tomorrow, and I asked this question because I needed to know if I had to order a cooler with the pc...
But thx for the help!
Better cooling is never wrong. It'll spare your ears, too.

/assuming you're getting an intel

I have this and for £16 it's a bargain. You'll be able to get a much better overclock, and it's practically silent, due to the rubber dampers connecting the fan.

EDIT: When you compare it to the stock fan, it's a no brainer. Look at this flimsy piece of shit. I bet it costs £0.10 to produce.

https://www.endpcnoise.com/e/images/intel_775_fan.jpg

Last edited by Finray (2009-02-22 14:52:16)

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max wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

bad-man wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

bad-man wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

bad-man wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

bad-man wrote:

bad-man wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

bad-man wrote:

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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

bad-man wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

bad-man wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

max wrote:

_Dominiko_PL wrote:

(HUN)Rudebwoy wrote:

(HUN)Rudebwoy wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

(HUN)Rudebwoy wrote:

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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

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Freezer7Pro wrote:

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