Bertster7
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deeznutz1245 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

usmarine wrote:


who enforces the treaties?  the UN?  lewl.  fuck them.  its our country, we will do what we see fit.
It's not about enforcement. It's about legality.
Right, but it was legal.
Well yes, it was - but not when he was talking about.

It hasn't been legal for more than 20 years.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6975|UK

usmarine wrote:

m3thod wrote:

I missed it and i can't be arsed to go find it.
oh well. stop crying about it then.
Me thinks you are dodging the question.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
usmarine
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Bertster7 wrote:

It's not about enforcement. It's about legality.
bollocks.  you guys speak like this is a fucking typical court case or something.  this is war.  idk what politicians say in order to appease people.  prisons all over the world do way worse than pouring water on someones face everyday.  its illegal yes?  so what.  nobody does anything about it.  empty words is all it is.
Bertster7
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+1,101|6885|SE London

usmarine wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

It's not about enforcement. It's about legality.
bollocks.  you guys speak like this is a fucking typical court case or something.  this is war.  idk what politicians say in order to appease people.  prisons all over the world do way worse than pouring water on someones face everyday.  its illegal yes?  so what.  nobody does anything about it.  empty words is all it is.
It IS a court case. See how it got thrown out of court? That's because it's a court case.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6796|Connecticut

Bertster7 wrote:

Well yes, it was - but not when he was talking about.

It hasn't been legal for more than 20 years.
Adultry isn't legal either, but it's fun.
Malloy must go
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6885|SE London

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Well yes, it was - but not when he was talking about.

It hasn't been legal for more than 20 years.
Adultry isn't legal either, but it's fun.
Isn't it?

It is legal over here - and it's not something there are any international laws about - so I wouldn't know about that.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2009-02-08 07:00:34)

usmarine
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Bertster7 wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

It's not about enforcement. It's about legality.
bollocks.  you guys speak like this is a fucking typical court case or something.  this is war.  idk what politicians say in order to appease people.  prisons all over the world do way worse than pouring water on someones face everyday.  its illegal yes?  so what.  nobody does anything about it.  empty words is all it is.
It IS a court case. See how it got thrown out of court? That's because it's a court case.
because the politicians wanted to appease people.  this is how you lose wars you see.  politicians and bleeding hearts get involved.  nobody is going to jail for pouring water on someones face, and the guy aint going anywhere.

Last edited by usmarine (2009-02-08 06:59:10)

m3thod
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+2,197|6975|UK

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Well yes, it was - but not when he was talking about.

It hasn't been legal for more than 20 years.
Adultry isn't legal either, but it's fun.
Are you saying carrying out waterboarding is fun?
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6885|SE London

usmarine wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

usmarine wrote:

bollocks.  you guys speak like this is a fucking typical court case or something.  this is war.  idk what politicians say in order to appease people.  prisons all over the world do way worse than pouring water on someones face everyday.  its illegal yes?  so what.  nobody does anything about it.  empty words is all it is.
It IS a court case. See how it got thrown out of court? That's because it's a court case.
because the politicians wanted to appease people.  this is how you lose wars you see.  politicians and bleeding hearts get involved.  nobody is going to jail for pouring water on someones face, and the guy aint going anywhere.
You forget that the politicians tell these people what they can and can't do.

They decide it's in their best interests to hand those guys out to dry, and they'll do just that.

Also you forget - a lot of these guys are going places. The main obstacle to that is finding countries willing to accept them. Which is what is currently going on....

Last edited by Bertster7 (2009-02-08 07:05:41)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6885|SE London

m3thod wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Well yes, it was - but not when he was talking about.

It hasn't been legal for more than 20 years.
Adultry isn't legal either, but it's fun.
Are you saying carrying out waterboarding is fun?
Well, yes. He's already said that it could be...

deeznutz1245 wrote:

As far as the torturing goes, you can't really rely on information abstracted against someones will whether it's torture or just simply using leverage (bribery). However, if you know for a fact that the person has killed your friends then it could be fun.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6796|Connecticut

m3thod wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Well yes, it was - but not when he was talking about.

It hasn't been legal for more than 20 years.
Adultery isn't legal either, but it's fun.
Are you saying carrying out waterboarding is fun?
Well I have never done it personally but yes, I would most likely derive a small amount of joy from it. I am a sick fuck though so don't use me as a basis of comparison.
Malloy must go
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6975|UK

deeznutz1245 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Adultery isn't legal either, but it's fun.
Are you saying carrying out waterboarding is fun?
Well I have never done it personally but yes, I would most likely derive a small amount of joy from it. I am a sick fuck though so don't use me as a basis of comparison.
You know that puts you in the same catagory to the sick fucks that watch people having their heads sawn off?
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6796|Connecticut

m3thod wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

m3thod wrote:


Are you saying carrying out waterboarding is fun?
Well I have never done it personally but yes, I would most likely derive a small amount of joy from it. I am a sick fuck though so don't use me as a basis of comparison.
You know that puts you in the same catagory to the sick fucks that watch people having their heads sawn off?
er, no. I'm not that sick. Close perhaps but not quite on that level. I mean, I could kill someone but the next level would be cutting off the face and I am not quite there. After that would be actually wearing the cut off face while masturbating. I am just not that commited to my work.
Malloy must go
Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|7067
You people are fucking nuts you know that. Every time I think about coming back here to look over the forums I see shit like this where two immovable opinions square off on something. You don't like waterboarding oh well, it's not drowning someone, it's not killing or damaging to a person like torture is. It makes a person freak out yes, but it doesn't leave any scars or kill brain cells.

Cutting off hands, pouring oil down someone's throat, burning them, slicing them, etc is torture. But you crazy fucks don't care because the US military, CIA, Bush administration are pure evil. Nothing they do/did was good, it destroyed worlds, lives, and shattered your happy little Eco-sphere of humanity. Grow the fuck up and let your damn balls drop. Sure it would be fucking fantastic if the world were all happy and there was no war, violence, rape, murder, stealing, arson, etc etc and I would be all for it. I honestly would love for the world to be peaceful and happy and everyone to get along. It would be horrible job security but we could all live better lives.

The problem is that there are people that can and will take advantage of other people's generosity. They are motivated by religion, ideology, or greed. They want more power for their own motives and will force their will on a weaker people. Now the United States [and the UN to an extent] are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They're both damned if they do and damned if they don't. There have been millions slaughtered to secular violence throughout the world, and that's not to mention the religious violence either. If they move in to save people from the aggressors they're putting their own needs ahead of the world and are building an empire. If they don't they are selfish bastards with the power and money to save the world but are capitalistic and greedy.

I'm done ranting and raving to y'all. Wake up and smell the roses and the fertilizer (aka shit!)
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Whether or not its torture, and personally I think it is, maltreatment of any kind of POWs or suspected criminals is unlawful.
We don't do that, its why we have a sense of moral superiority.
If we sink to the level of the terrorists, of whom there are barely a few hundred actual hardcore AQ terrorists so we really don't need to to beat them, we have no right to lecture them.

The problem is that there are people that can and will take advantage of other people's generosity. They are motivated by religion, ideology, or greed. They want more power for their own motives and will force their will on a weaker people.
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, yes we know.

The OP would be better titled 'We got the guy who killed Americans, but he's not going to be prosecuted because we are so stupid we broke our own laws'

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-02-09 05:23:14)

Fuck Israel
Oisín | Irishpride
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+118|5898|Dublin, Ireland
Lel Method wins.

I only read the first page but his argument wins.

I like how he freely states that 'you aint got shit'.

Made me lul

BTW - Americans suck, Canadians are <3
usmarine
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+2,785|7065

Oisín | Irishpride wrote:

Lel Method wins.

I only read the first page but his argument wins.

I like how he freely states that 'you aint got shit'.

Made me lul

BTW - Americans suck, Canadians are <3
wow...welcome to this section.




lul
Oisín | Irishpride
Banned
+118|5898|Dublin, Ireland

usmarine wrote:

Oisín | Irishpride wrote:

Lel Method wins.

I only read the first page but his argument wins.

I like how he freely states that 'you aint got shit'.

Made me lul

BTW - Americans suck, Canadians are <3
wow...welcome to this section.




lul
Got exams all week and I'm sick of studying, I suppose this is better for me than p0rn or BF2, least I learn something

BTW - Method sounds like a very smart guy, I wouldn't argue with him

I wouldn't even have the English to compete.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7065

oh...


well you missed the fact the guy admitted doing it.  so ya, other then the guy admitting it we aint got shit.  but, then he figured out how to play the system so he gets to sit in jail for a while longer without trial.
Oisín | Irishpride
Banned
+118|5898|Dublin, Ireland

usmarine wrote:

oh...


well you missed the fact the guy admitted doing it.  so ya, other then the guy admitting it we aint got shit.  but, then he figured out how to play the system so he gets to sit in jail for a while longer without trial.
Through a form or torture if I'm correct, which is bolox.

I'm probably not correct though.

/me gets the feeling I should leave this section and carry my ass back to the BF2 section
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7065

well just because someone poured water on his face does not obsolve him of his crimes.
Oisín | Irishpride
Banned
+118|5898|Dublin, Ireland

usmarine wrote:

well just because someone poured water on his face does not obsolve him of his crimes.
'Simulates drowning'.

I'm sure they didn't just pour water of his face. Anybody got a link or image to suggest what 'Waterboarding' really is?

From my gaming experiences, Americans tend to be wrong, 50% of the time, all of the time!

I'm staying with Method's argument.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7065

Oisín | Irishpride wrote:

usmarine wrote:

well just because someone poured water on his face does not obsolve him of his crimes.
'Simulates drowning'.

I'm sure they didn't just pour water of his face. Anybody got a link or image to suggest what 'Waterboarding' really is?

From my gaming experiences, Americans tend to be wrong, 50% of the time, all of the time!

I'm staying with Method's argument.
i know what waterboarding is.  i went to SERE school back in the 90's.  and from my experience, euros are usually wrong.  but thanks for tossing that stuff in there.
AussieReaper
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+5,761|6456|what

No, he gets water poured on him.

It's just his face is wrapped in a damp cloth at the same time so he is forced to breath through it, swallowing water and gasping for what little oxygen he can get, while held down or restrained.

The helplessness and fear of death is what makes it such an effective method of torture.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Oisín | Irishpride
Banned
+118|5898|Dublin, Ireland

usmarine wrote:

Oisín | Irishpride wrote:

usmarine wrote:

well just because someone poured water on his face does not obsolve him of his crimes.
'Simulates drowning'.

I'm sure they didn't just pour water of his face. Anybody got a link or image to suggest what 'Waterboarding' really is?

From my gaming experiences, Americans tend to be wrong, 50% of the time, all of the time!

I'm staying with Method's argument.
i know what waterboarding is.  i went to SERE school back in the 90's.  and from my experience, euros are usually wrong.  but thanks for tossing that stuff in there.
Don't get angry at me because Method > You.

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