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TheAussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

Really? So you do not consider Americans over all, as arrogant spoiled and entitled for no other reason than because we are americans?


What you were looking for was a racial comment to attack

Of course I don't consider Americans arrogant spoiled and entitled for no other reason than because they are Americans. I will say they are more entitled than others, it is one of the freedoms they enjoy. That does not make them arrogant or spoiled.

What I was looking for is why you think most Americans are lazy and arrogant. It could just be those you have met, or maybe you've got some insight into the other life styles and attitudes you've come across from around the world. I don't know, which is why I asked.

TheAussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

We are lazy because our attitude is lazy. We are too lazy to raise our own kids, it is better to invent a syndrome to cover their shitty behavior. We are arrogant goes without explaining, if you can't see that, then this is hopeless. All of Europe thinks we are spoiled arrogant and lazy. How is it you missed that? The reason why they think that is because they are right.

I won't get into a ADD debate with you, I'll agree that there are a lot of children who are misdiagnosed by doctors who are more than happy to subscribe medication than a stricter parenting.

As to Europe's opinion on Americans being lazy? I wouldn't say they are right. I think that the perceived anti-American sentiment comes from anti-Bush sentiment you've witnessed. If it were anti-American exclusively you wouldn't have seen Obama absolutely swamped like a rock star when he visited Berlin, for example (it was over the top I'm sure you'll agree). And a lot of the anti-US sentiment is falling now he is in office.

The only really thorn in America's side at the moment in terms of world relations is it's clear break away from UN majority rulings for Israel\Hamas relations.

TheAussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

All of Europe thinks we are spoiled arrogant and lazy. How is it you missed that? The reason why they think that is because they are right.

TheAussieReaper wrote:

As to Europe's opinion on Americans being lazy? I wouldn't say they are right.

lowing wrote:

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=120849   majority rules.

Well done lowing. With a single poll of the forums you've managed to prove that Europe thinks Americans are spoiled arrogant and lazy.

Or at least you would have, had the poll been available for Europeans only. Wait, no you wouldn't. Go through the thread and read up on what the Europeans said, and try to take note that it was Americans who saw themselves as the negative stereotype.

Majority rules? I think you poll is biased and open for Americans to answer. So let's just see the results of Europeans real answer, not from the poll results that included Americans voting. You were talking about Europeans views? The stereotypical view of Americans by Europe, right?

Here, I'll take page one as an example:

Americans on page one-

S.Lythberg wrote:

Not exclusively, but a lot of us are

GravyDan wrote:

I know I am.

DesertFox- wrote:

You forgot "stupid", too.

NantanCochise wrote:

To a certain degree and generally speaking all humanity is spoiled, gluttonous and arrogant. Why focus on Americans, Ive been around enough to know that, people generally help themselves before others no matter where they are from.

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

We are the greatest country in the world and it's lonely at the top... lol

mtb0minime wrote:

The stereotypical American is. And that's why I hate Americans, they make foreigners assume I'm automatically like that.

Parker wrote:

oh fo sho!

im all of those, and much more!

loubot wrote:

Speaking of gluttonous, I just had a 12" Chesse Steak Sandwich and fries

How about some Europeans views? You know, the ones this poll should have targeted?

I know, same rules. We get the responses from page one, to contrast the opinions of Europeans. As I said, the guys your poll should have been exclusive for, but sadly wasn't. Oh well. Here, we'll just take their quotes and see what we can come up with shall we? I'll make it easy and bold some if you'd like?

Aries_37 wrote:

I'd say at an incredibly generalising level that they are ignorant, they believe they are entitled to far too much, they have a serious superiority complex, they are so quick to leap at anyone who they believe is criticising them or their way of life, they are fake, and they are intolerant.

I could write a similar list for every other culture and civilisation.

Mekstizzle wrote:

When it comes to politics, alot of Americans are extremely stubborn and very partisan (unlike people from the UK), like this forum, I'd say Turquoise is one of the few Americans here that is somewhat rational and tries to see things properly. Most other times debates degenerate into liberal/conservative bashing (and their respective parties) and all round stupid childish behaviour. (someone said this same thing in another topic just recently)

I'm sure you could say things about Brits but most of the time we just get lumped into a "Silly Euros" category. It's weird how or why Americans do that. No, the EU is not like the US. Travelling from Ireland to fucking.....Slovenia or whatever, is much different than going from NYC to LA...if you get what I'm trying to say here. Is that people in the EU aren't the same all over at all, no way near at all, and it's nothing like how homogeneous (relatively speaking) the population of the USA is.

smuder201 wrote:

I personally like US citizens (most of them), they are friendly & welcoming but they stick up for a way of life that is stuck in the 50's. the American way rar rar quite frankly is bankrupt, I also think that with the world wide credit crunch US citizens have now relised how corrupt the world system is & it has left them in shock where as us Euro fags are a more cynical bunch & we want you to be more like us i guess.

FatherTed wrote:

No, that's not been my RL experience of them.

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

I voted yes - that is the so called 'Stereotypical American' as seen by the so called 'Stereotypical Brit' - so, yep, 'fraid so - in fact, I would say it's probably pretty safe to assume that the majority of the world views 'America', and therefore 'Americans' as "spoiled, gluttonous, arrogant".

But, of course, that is not the same as saying all Americans are "spoiled, gluttonous, arrogant".

Oh dear, Scorp argrees with you that Europe thinks Americans are lazy, arrogant and spoiled.

No, I was wrong. He then changes his answer:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

I should also say:

FatherTed wrote:

No, that's not been my RL experience of them.

Which has actually also been my experience of RL Americans.

(i.e. like all stereotypes, it's not really all that true, of the individuals that make up a country, no matter how accurate a description it may or may not be of the country as a whole - the 'whole' (population) is more than the sum of it's 'parts' (individuals))

Continuing with page one:

oug wrote:

Harsh characterizations for an entire nation. Yet, a comparatively high standard of living will have that effect at some point - for a percentage of the people. Nothing to be ashamed of I guess. Besides, having made the observation automatically sets you apart from those that might be caught up in this.

konfusion wrote:

Yes, the stereotypical American is an arrogant, spoiled glutton, who thinks he's entitled to everything. Many have proved this wrong, but sadly, a large number of people I have met fall into this category.

American tourists are generally overly friendly, if not obnoxious, who don't take local etiquette into consideration, but make up for it with handsome tips and the aforementioned kindness.

I like many Americans I meet. They do not always take to my sarcastic humour (they are much more politically correct than I), but share my interests in upcoming technologies and TV culture
-kon

^not too sure about kons general attitude. It could go either way to be honest. Hell I'll give you that one.

Mikkel is Danish (thanks to m3th for clearing that up for me. My bad lol)

mikkel wrote:

There are a whole lot of idiots in the US, but there are just as many idiots everywhere else. The US is big enough even for niches to get a whole lot of global attention, and the negative ones are what people remember. I've been to dozens of different countries, and after Italy, the Southeastern US has been the place I've enjoyed the most, and where the people have been the most consistently nice.

So, after all the Europeans on page one, how many believed in your stereotype?

Because it certainly seems the Americans believe in it. Funny that Europeans don't.

So, as you were saying majority rules? I don't think so. Unless you consider the majority of Europeans who DON'T believe Americans are arrogant, spoiled and lazy.

Great poll lowing. Next time try to make one exclusive for who you were trying to get answers from. It could cloud your poll, like this one. lol