muncher
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Before I go on, I would like to say I as much as the next person hate with a passion the BH point farmers.

But I also put it to you that EA/Dice has gone from one extreme in the other direction, making them useless.

Viability of capping flags in a vehicle prior to patch: Excellent
Viability of capping flags in a vehicle post patch: Useless

My idea is that some kind of medium ground could perhaps reached for the next patch if/when it comes out, given enough support from the community. It is now not worthwhile capping flags in any of the transport vehicles, choppers, or tanks (maybe the exception). I suggest that instead of having only the driver capping points, you have the driver and the gunner/s contributing to the capping process.

This will remove all point farmers/leechers, and remove the massive advantage of the BH, but still allow, the transport/attack/protection gunner to be a viable role.

Ideas?

Sorry if anything doesnt make sense, im half cut and lanning, and having been throwing this idea around in my head for quite some time, What do people think?
Azr4eL
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+0|7056|Italy
I thnk the veicle capping on the 1.02 was exellent. The only problem about is related on the Black Hawk... and maibe a little less on the other Transoprt elicopters. What do You think about a more vulnerable choppers?

(I hope my english is right... )

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muncher
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Thats what I mean the only real problem was the blackhawk, and because people abused its capabilities, every class of vehicle has suffered.

Also choppers have been made slightly weaker in 1.03 patch I beleive
Rick_Biessman
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+4|7040|Germany
Before the Patch: Take a tank and hunt them down (maybe in addition of a AT-Weapon
Now: It is as it is and I think its better. I also don't like when the enemy takes my CP within three seconds, and now they've to go out of vehicles and get some bullets
dr4gonman
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+0|7072
I think it's better now.  Folks actually have to work for the caps by getting out and "securing" the area.  I do think that a 2 person vehicle limit should be instituted irrespective of position in vehicle.  It's not really logical for 1 of a 2 man vehicle to have to get out to help with the capping.  But no matter what it is some folks will just not like it that way.
Donnyboy
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+1|7049
I agree, it's cool to see people bail and secure the perimeter, and it gives others (non-AT) a chance to defend the flag.
Azr4eL
Member
+0|7056|Italy
I repeat: the only problem is the Black Hawk (transpor choppers). Any other veicle is vulnerable to mines/C4/AT rockets.
I have seen that elicopters are more vulnerable in 1.03, but don't know HOW MUCH MORE vulnerable is BH. Anyone knows?

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US|dirtysouth
purple sticky punch
+0|7078|englewood FL.
i personally thinks its ok now...i get back at them winers by flying around and around there spawn jus to high for tanks and let my gunners rack up alllll those kills....godda lot of red WTF's that round..

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kilroy0097
Kilroy Is Here!
+81|7107|Bryan/College Station, TX
I think they simple screwed up in Vehicle captures because they didn't even consider thinking it through.

Too often two people are needed in a vehicle for optimum results in that vehicle's basic combat ability.
Tank you have the main pilot/gunner and the MG gunner on top that  covers the rear.
HUMVEE and FAV you have the same issue.
Even in an APC having someone inside facing the rear of the vehicle is nice and gives the pilots a quadrant they don't have to cover while capturing.

This of course is true for the Attack Chopper where isn't very feesible for the gunner to eject out and help take a flag and then jump back in to fly off. Heck even the Transport chopper needs a gunner just to cover things on the ground.

I believe strongly that the limit to capture a flag from a vehicle should have been two people not one. EA/DICE I do not believe tested this well enough and I don't know what the beta testers were saying but obviously they aren't up to par or else EA/DICE simply didn't listen to any of their requests which wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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jowwarr
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+0|7038
Hehehe that wouldn't be the first time Beta testers haven't been listened too... I got into SWG beta  and the JTL expansion beta.. "Hello?? SOE?? Anyone listening??" *crickets chirping*

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