And now we know just how important Israel sees free and open elections in their own country I can imagine what they are about to impose on Palestine.Kmarion wrote:
Democratically elected after they executed the opposition.
Meh.. Here in the states Floridian and Michigan democrats weren't afforded the right to nominate their candidate.. that's quite a far cry from putting a bullet in each of their heads.TheAussieReaper wrote:
And now we know just how important Israel sees free and open elections in their own country I can imagine what they are about to impose on Palestine.Kmarion wrote:
Democratically elected after they executed the opposition.
Or did they forfeit their right to vote by choosing wrong last time?
Serves 'em right I suppose. If you can get it right you don't deserve the vote...
CameronPoe wrote:
Hamas fucked their democratic mandate when they shot/killed/imprisoned Fatah in Gaza several months ago...TheAussieReaper wrote:
Do you think that after this "war", Israel will promote another Democratic election to allow the Palestinians to elect another Government other than Hamas?
Not that it will be able to do much, with all the government buildings destroyed.
You need to read a history book.sup wrote:
The thing that bothers me about Israel is that they make a country of Palestine land, kill hundreds of people at it and when they get bombed by Hamas, all they want is peace. Kinda ironic isn't it.
What do you recommend?Dilbert_X wrote:
You need to read a history book.sup wrote:
The thing that bothers me about Israel is that they make a country of Palestine land, kill hundreds of people at it and when they get bombed by Hamas, all they want is peace. Kinda ironic isn't it.
You know, if a certain race of people significantly called for the destruction of, and to wipe my country off the face of the map, hell no I wouldnt let anyone from that race vote in my country. Ya democracy is good but letting arabs vote in Israel would be the beginning of the end. Ya its fucked up but I can see why they wouldnt.CameronPoe wrote:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054867.html
I really can't honestly believe this. 21% of the population of 'the only pluralist democracy' in the middle east barred from standing in 'democratic' elections on the basis of race. There's your fucking reality now Israel-apologists. Don't ever give the bullshit democracy line ever again.
If you're referring to what Iran said, they're not even Arabs¦TØP¦ Rommel1l wrote:
You know, if a certain race of people significantly called for the destruction of, and to wipe my country off the face of the map, hell no I wouldnt let anyone from that race vote in my country. Ya democracy is good but letting arabs vote in Israel would be the beginning of the end. Ya its fucked up but I can see why they wouldnt.CameronPoe wrote:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054867.html
I really can't honestly believe this. 21% of the population of 'the only pluralist democracy' in the middle east barred from standing in 'democratic' elections on the basis of race. There's your fucking reality now Israel-apologists. Don't ever give the bullshit democracy line ever again.
Ok let me get this straight.TheAussieReaper wrote:
No it was when Israeli tanks started to kill the democratically elected govt.Kmarion wrote:
What gave it away? Was it when Hamas killed the opposition?TheAussieReaper wrote:
Guess the chance of a free election in Gaza are even slimmer now too.
And they're not banning Arabs from voting, they're banning Arab political parties.¦TØP¦ Rommel1l wrote:
You know, if a certain race of people significantly called for the destruction of, and to wipe my country off the face of the map, hell no I wouldnt let anyone from that race vote in my country. Ya democracy is good but letting arabs vote in Israel would be the beginning of the end. Ya its fucked up but I can see why they wouldnt.CameronPoe wrote:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054867.html
I really can't honestly believe this. 21% of the population of 'the only pluralist democracy' in the middle east barred from standing in 'democratic' elections on the basis of race. There's your fucking reality now Israel-apologists. Don't ever give the bullshit democracy line ever again.
Dilbert,, you'll soon realize most people in this forum (like Mekstizzle) are ignorant and dont have the intelligence to comprehend this world with a perception that makes a lot of thingsclear the way you and I see it. It requires a lot of patience to deal with them.Dilbert_X wrote:
But they're calling for it to be wiped off the map because its a racist apartheid state.
See how the argument is circular?
Last edited by ¦TØP¦ Rommel1l (2009-01-12 16:52:47)
I have met some people in my lifes experiences and honestly all of the arabs I have met are people who I think very highly of. They are kind, sensitive, and warm to others. More so than any other race of people I have met.usmarine wrote:
the ME is a giant shithole except for a few countries. if it wasnt for oil they would be exactly like africa right now.
What the hell are you talking about, all I was doing was pointing out basic and fundamental inaccuracies in your stupid post that you made. I didn't bother to actually refer to what you were talking about because it was stupid enough on its own to not need anything like that.¦TØP¦ Rommel1l wrote:
Dilbert,, you'll soon realize most people in this forum (like Mekstizzle) are ignorant and dont have the intelligence to comprehend this world with a perception that makes a lot of thingsclear the way you and I see it. It requires a lot of patience to deal with them.Dilbert_X wrote:
But they're calling for it to be wiped off the map because its a racist apartheid state.
See how the argument is circular?
k i met a lot of cool africans during my time there, does that mean it isnt a shithole?¦TØP¦ Rommel1l wrote:
I have met some people in my lifes experiences and honestly all of the arabs I have met are people who I think very highly of. They are kind, sensitive, and warm to others. More so than any other race of people I have met.usmarine wrote:
the ME is a giant shithole except for a few countries. if it wasnt for oil they would be exactly like africa right now.
But,, I've never been to the middle east so I dunno. All I'm saying is that all the arabs I have met are really cool.
The ME is the cradle of civilisation, mathematics, astronomy, medicine, many others.usmarine wrote:
he ME is a giant shithole except for a few countries. if it wasnt for oil they would be exactly like africa right now.
Well actually alot of what is claimed to be ME/Arab/Muslim inventions were actually invented further east, it's just that it was the Muslims who brought it to Europe and now everyone thinks they did it all, not saying that they ain't done shit (well they ain't done shit in a few centuries) but historically speaking, many people have the wrong idea when it comes to things like this.Dilbert_X wrote:
The ME is the cradle of civilisation, mathematics, astronomy, medicine, many others.usmarine wrote:
he ME is a giant shithole except for a few countries. if it wasnt for oil they would be exactly like africa right now.
They've done well out of oil for sure, good for them.
True... the Shia and Sunnis have hated each other for ages.Poseidon wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co … iddle_East.Sup wrote:
Seems there are a lot more conflicts there now doesn't it?Poseidon wrote:
Yeah, the Middle East was just a Mecca (no pun intended) of peace before Israel was created. Get real.
While there's no denying there's been a substantial amount of violence in the middle east due to Israel's existance, claiming that there were "good ol' times" when the Jewish people didn't have their own country is completely wrong.
Especially considering there have been countless conflicts in which Israel has NOT been involved when it comes to the Middle East.
How far East, mek? India certainly had a strong empirical background in mathematics but that wasn't until much later. It was in Iran (Mesopotamia) that the first cities were built and before that first farming of animals.Mekstizzle wrote:
Well actually alot of what is claimed to be ME/Arab/Muslim inventions were actually invented further east, it's just that it was the Muslims who brought it to Europe and now everyone thinks they did it all, not saying that they ain't done shit (well they ain't done shit in a few centuries) but historically speaking, many people have the wrong idea when it comes to things like this.
Ever? Not even after an Israeli court invalidates the measure?CameronPoe wrote:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054867.html
I really can't honestly believe this. 21% of the population of 'the only pluralist democracy' in the middle east barred from standing in 'democratic' elections on the basis of race. There's your fucking reality now Israel-apologists. Don't ever give the bullshit democracy line ever again.
