BF2S Forums Robber shot dead by witness

jord wrote:

I've stolen over 50 things in my life, I'm scum I guess.


Jens you're not particular helping the lib eurofag side here mate. Rule 1 in d&st, don't tell people you're full experiance on something is from films...

Yeah jord, if you are a thief and have no problem with it, then you are scum. Sorry.

lowing wrote:

jord wrote:

I've stolen over 50 things in my life, I'm scum I guess.


Jens you're not particular helping the lib eurofag side here mate. Rule 1 in d&st, don't tell people you're full experiance on something is from films...

Yeah jord, if you are a thief and have no problem with it, then you are scum. Sorry.

No, I'm scum in your opinion. Which has less and less bearing on people as you carry on you remarks on how all Muslims stink of BO, and your other various gems. I'm sure I'll manage.

lowing wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

lowing wrote:

God, I love it when a criminal is shot dead while committing a crime.

No doubt we gotta hear how valuable his life was, and how the shit he stole was not worth shooting him. Maybe how the "heavy-handedness" of bringing a gun to a beer bottle fight is a disgrace. The possibilities from the left are endless.

Killing some one for stealing property would not have been warranted.  In this case he was assaulting the clerk, and could very possibly have killed her.  I have no problem with this case.

Suppose instead of hitting her with a bottle, he was pointing a gun at her, does that warrant shooting that piece of shit in your eyes? Ya know, before he killed her, or should the "witness" wait to see if she gets killed first?

If the assessment of the situation put the clerks life at risk at that moment, then yes shooting him would still be justified.  If the perp had already gotten what he wanted and was leaving, then no shooting them is not justified.

Sydney wrote:

Yet the crime rate here is WAY lower (thinking about Iceland, can't speak for all eurofags). Pretty fucked up indeed.

Gun ownership here is extremely rare, and most of the legal ones are either shotguns or hunting rifles, REALLY hard to get a license and therefore get a gun, and guess what, there is almost 0 gun related crime here...

well here in dutchland plenty of people get their hands on guns, robbers that is. And if that's not the case it's some kind of knife which does the job.

iceland having such a small population, living in a rather large country 'n that, I suppose crime rate is quite low.

dayarath wrote:

Sydney wrote:

Yet the crime rate here is WAY lower (thinking about Iceland, can't speak for all eurofags). Pretty fucked up indeed.

Gun ownership here is extremely rare, and most of the legal ones are either shotguns or hunting rifles, REALLY hard to get a license and therefore get a gun, and guess what, there is almost 0 gun related crime here...

well here in dutchland plenty of people get their hands on guns, robbers that is. And if that's not the case it's some kind of knife which does the job.

iceland having such a small population, living in a rather large country 'n that, I suppose crime rate is quite low.

Just for the sake of posting:

Homicide rates per 100,000 population
USA: 5.7
Netherlands: 0.97
Norway: 0.78
Iceland: 1.03

lowing wrote:

jord wrote:

lowing wrote:

Yeah jord, if you are a thief and have no problem with it, then you are scum. Sorry.

No, I'm scum in your opinion. Which has less and less bearing on people as you carry on you remarks on how all Muslims stink of BO, and your other various gems. I'm sure I'll manage.

Hate to break the bad news but, I am positive all 50 people that you stole from think you are a piece of shit as well.


Also for the record, I never said all Muslims stink of BO. I said the ME has a BO problem in highly populated places and inclosed buldings. The fact that the majority of them are Muslims is not my fault and not relavant. Add to it, the fact that I speak the truth regardless as to how politically incorrect I am. It must be the truth, Cam couldn't deny it without lying


"I certainly will be wholeheartedly cheering the death of each and every single IDF soldier soon to be announced"<---------- written by CamronPoe.


I wonder how I would be taken if I said anything close to this about Muslims or criminals.

It was generally the same 2 or 3 people, and I hardly think they noticed. I don't really care what they think, they're only Muslims anyway (Am I learning yet?)...

Why did you slowly launch into a rant about Cam? I don't see him here nor do I agree with him a lot of the time. In fact I was the first person to call him out on that quote. Are you trying to use everything in the hope that Cam reads it and gets offended?


Oh and if you compare our posts we have the same attitude to PC. I think PC is destroying this country and speak my mind always. What I was arguing I wasn't arguing because I want the world to be PC, I was arguing because it was what I believe. And that's not all Muslims don't stink, which has since changed into a lesser "The middle East has a BO problem". Which, ya they probably do. Hot out there.

Last edited by jord (2009-01-06 15:12:48)

lowing wrote:

dayarath wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

I see your point, I just have a hard time justifying murder.

If it is as he says, fine. But I'd do a full investigation to see if it's true.



To me it just sounds like they don't even look into it. Meh, could be just my eurofaginess, I dunno.




@jord: oryte. Gais, I've shot 5 robbers (Jord twice), so I know what I'm talking about.

on a similair occasion here I know of a farmer who was jailed because he shot someone in his back while he was stealing his TV (((for the 3rd time - he bought a gun to make sure it didn't happen again))) he shot him in the back while he was climbing out of the window with the TV. He had a hunting license and was permitted to have a gun. - the guy who was stealing his TV, died in the hospital.

this was very long ago though.

Jord wrote:

No, I'm scum in your opinion. Which has less and less bearing on people as you carry on you remarks on how all Muslims stink of BO, and your other various gems. I'm sure I'll manage.

as likeable as you are Jord stealing does make you scum.

There ya go, another opinion, thieves are scum

I could quote 10 people on the internet that in their opinion believe you to be a racist. It's opinions, I really don't care. Oh and I talked to the above member about it and discussed why and he came round to my way of thinking, oh well.

Like I said, I'm sure I'll manage. You big racist you

lowing wrote:

dayarath wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

I see your point, I just have a hard time justifying murder.

If it is as he says, fine. But I'd do a full investigation to see if it's true.



To me it just sounds like they don't even look into it. Meh, could be just my eurofaginess, I dunno.




@jord: oryte. Gais, I've shot 5 robbers (Jord twice), so I know what I'm talking about.

on a similair occasion here I know of a farmer who was jailed because he shot someone in his back while he was stealing his TV (((for the 3rd time - he bought a gun to make sure it didn't happen again))) he shot him in the back while he was climbing out of the window with the TV. He had a hunting license and was permitted to have a gun. - the guy who was stealing his TV, died in the hospital.

this was very long ago though.

Jord wrote:

No, I'm scum in your opinion. Which has less and less bearing on people as you carry on you remarks on how all Muslims stink of BO, and your other various gems. I'm sure I'll manage.

as likeable as you are Jord stealing does make you scum.

There ya go, another opinion, thieves are scum

robin hood was scum?

Btw Dayarath that farmer you're talking about got locked away, which was going to be a life sentence until he blagged diminished responsibility and had it reduced to manslaughter. Apparently the repeated emotional distress and frenetic worrying about repeat-burglaries made him a little trigger-happy and put him in a bad mental state. Repercussions to citizen-enforced justice.

jord wrote:

lowing wrote:

jord wrote:

No, I'm scum in your opinion. Which has less and less bearing on people as you carry on you remarks on how all Muslims stink of BO, and your other various gems. I'm sure I'll manage.

Hate to break the bad news but, I am positive all 50 people that you stole from think you are a piece of shit as well.


Also for the record, I never said all Muslims stink of BO. I said the ME has a BO problem in highly populated places and inclosed buldings. The fact that the majority of them are Muslims is not my fault and not relavant. Add to it, the fact that I speak the truth regardless as to how politically incorrect I am. It must be the truth, Cam couldn't deny it without lying


"I certainly will be wholeheartedly cheering the death of each and every single IDF soldier soon to be announced"<---------- written by CamronPoe.


I wonder how I would be taken if I said anything close to this about Muslims or criminals.

It was generally the same 2 or 3 people, and I hardly think they noticed. I don't really care what they think, they're only Muslims anyway (Am I learning yet?)...

Why did you slowly launch into a rant about Cam? I don't see him here nor do I agree with him a lot of the time. In fact I was the first person to call him out on that quote. Are you trying to use everything in the hope that Cam reads it and gets offended?


Oh and if you compare our posts we have the same attitude to PC. I think PC is destroying this country and speak my mind always. What I was arguing I wasn't arguing because I want the world to be PC, I was arguing because it was what I believe. And that's not all Muslims don't stink, which has since changed into a lesser "The middle East has a BO problem". Which, ya they probably do. Hot out there.

Oh well if you are only stealing from 2 or 3 people that isn't noticing you do it, then I take back what I said, cuz that is different and you are in fact a hero

Ummmmm I didn't rant about Cam.  I used his quote as a comparison to someone who says the ME stinks of BO and someone who will cheer the deaths of soldiers. I am pretty sure my quote is the lesser of the 2 evils by far, yet it was soooooooooo bad that you mentioned it again. I will not even get into the fact that you are crediting me with words I did not say. Even after I corrected you as to what I actually said you still refuse to acknowledge it

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

lowing wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

If the assessment of the situation put the clerks life at risk at that moment, then yes shooting him would still be justified.  If the perp had already gotten what he wanted and was leaving, then no shooting them is not justified.

Well just replace the beer bottle smack with a gun point. Same time frame, is the "witness" justifed in shooting?

They are not the same thing.  In the one case an assault is taking place.  In the other the potential for harm is there, and the situation would have to be assessed.  If a weapon was in plain site, being pointed at the person in a threatening manner, I would be more likely than not to shoot.  If they only claimed to have a weapon but it wasn't visible, I wouldn't necessarily shoot.

Unlike your previous comments in threads on this subject, I don't think the theft of property alone is worth killing some over if there is no threat of harm to anyone.

you have taken me out of context. I said in all of those threads

1. I don't care if they get killed during their criminal activities

2. I would shoot to kill ( if the option was available) during their attempt to steal from me in my home. IE I will not wait and see what happens. Since what might happen I might not like very much

I never said anything about hunting them down and shooting them after the fact.

dayarath wrote:

Sydney wrote:

Yet the crime rate here is WAY lower (thinking about Iceland, can't speak for all eurofags). Pretty fucked up indeed.

Gun ownership here is extremely rare, and most of the legal ones are either shotguns or hunting rifles, REALLY hard to get a license and therefore get a gun, and guess what, there is almost 0 gun related crime here...

well here in dutchland plenty of people get their hands on guns, robbers that is. And if that's not the case it's some kind of knife which does the job.

iceland having such a small population, living in a rather large country 'n that, I suppose crime rate is quite low.

Might be large country, but only 5% of it is inhabited, half of the country, including me, lives in one little spot on our big rock.

Jenspm wrote:

dayarath wrote:

Sydney wrote:

Yet the crime rate here is WAY lower (thinking about Iceland, can't speak for all eurofags). Pretty fucked up indeed.

Gun ownership here is extremely rare, and most of the legal ones are either shotguns or hunting rifles, REALLY hard to get a license and therefore get a gun, and guess what, there is almost 0 gun related crime here...

well here in dutchland plenty of people get their hands on guns, robbers that is. And if that's not the case it's some kind of knife which does the job.

iceland having such a small population, living in a rather large country 'n that, I suppose crime rate is quite low.

Just for the sake of posting:

Homicide rates per 100,000 population
USA: 5.7
Netherlands: 0.97
Norway: 0.78
Iceland: 1.03

That's 3.09 persons in Iceland

lowing wrote:

jord wrote:

lowing wrote:

Oh well if you are only stealing from 2 or 3 people that isn't noticing you do it, then I take back what I said, cuz that is different and you are in fact a hero

Ummmmm I didn't rant about Cam.  I used his quote as a comparison to someone who says the ME stinks of BO and someone who will cheer the deaths of soldiers. I am pretty sure my quote is the lesser of the 2 evils by far, yet it was soooooooooo bad that you mentioned it again. I will not even get into the fact that you are crediting me with words I did not say. Even after I corrected you as to what I actually said you still refuse to acknowledge it

It was sarcasm so you can lose the rolley eyes smiley. I know it's hard to interpret on the internet, but only a a complete racist would announce they don't give a fuck what Muslims think and mean it. Kinda obvious I thought. Oh and whilst I may not be a hero, I got to eat my fill and they barely even noticed. Score!!!! AWESOME, etc.

I fail to see what you mean here. Cam has announced his feelings on soldiers of which belong to a Government he isn't fond of twice now. And both times I called him up on it and mention it a few times to him. Just like I called you up on your BO Gem, which I have mentioned what, 3 times now? In he same week? I'll probably stop after a few days and it will be forgotten with the rest of your semi controversial statements.

You call me a racist for speaking the truth, the ME does stink of BO in populated areas. Now, please acknowlege that I NEVER said what you claim I said, also add to it that I never said "I don't give a fuck about Muslims"

You must be picking out a few words of my post and getting into a fit or something. Slow down and take a deep breath. I'm not saying you said "I don't give a fuck about all Muslims". I am saying when I, repeat, I said that. I was being sarcastic. Note that it was me saying that when me, as in myself said that. I was being sarcastic. You never said that. I did, in a sarcastic tone.

I don't think you are a racist. I'm not so ignorant as to put you into that fixed category. I happen to think you have certain racist tendencies because you are ill informed on a few things. You also like to sit at the controversial table and speak the "truth". When the "truth" often isn't, and it's often you lacking the knowledge or you believing in what you say but putting it in a hyper controversial way to bait the libs.

Is that an accurate profile? Would you admit to it if you felt it was the truth?