m3thod
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Kmarion wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Guess not.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj25 … 226270.jpg
I'm assuming thats either cluster bombs or shrapnel, neither of which should be used to attack civilian areas.
So much for precision attacks eh?
Those are neither. Keep looking.
What the hell is that? At least link us to where you found the photo.
front page

http://news.bbc.co.uk/

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m3thod wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Those are neither. Keep looking.
What the hell is that? At least link us to where you found the photo.
front page

www.news.bbc.co.uk
You'll have to excuse me. Our news is dominated now by Bill f'n Richardson.

Here is a better one I found @ the BBC.

https://i43.tinypic.com/j62wz4.jpg
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m3thod
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FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Campoe wrote:

Do you think they have desisted from employing cluster bombs? I think not. Those bombs are guaranteed limbless civilians, guaranteed.
Guess not.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj25 … 226270.jpg
I'm assuming thats either cluster bombs or shrapnel, neither of which should be used to attack civilian areas.
So much for precision attacks eh?
Those are neither. Keep looking.
Try correcting.

I would guess it's white phosphrous to light up the bad gaiz, like their butt buddies used in Falluja.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 440664.stm

Last edited by m3thod (2009-01-04 17:53:18)

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Dilbert_X
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M3thod wrote:

Trying correcting.

I would guess it's white phosphrous to light up the bad gaiz, like their butt buddies used in Falluja.
Strange that its happening in daylight huh?

Maybe the weapons experts here can tell us what they are, and why they are being used in civilian areas.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-01-04 18:02:17)

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https://i40.tinypic.com/23m3crr.jpg
A shell fired by Israeli forces explodes over the northern Gaza Strip January 4, 2009.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Gaza/phot … ans_israel

https://i44.tinypic.com/30c7iuh.jpg
Shelling Gaza : Smoke rises into the air and an artillery shell explodes over the central Gaza Strip.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Gaza/phot … 825214e199

https://i44.tinypic.com/j7drud.jpg
A smoke bomb explodes over the northern Gaza Strip January 4, 2009.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Gaza/phot … ans_israel
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Looks like selective precision strikes to me.
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m3thod
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Method wrote:

Trying correcting.

I would guess it's white phosphrous to light up the bad gaiz, like their butt buddies used in Falluja.
Strange that its happening in daylight huh?

Maybe the weapons experts here can tell us what they are, and why they are being used in civilian areas.
godamit use the 3!

The frontpage pic the light is diminishing hence why i thought it may be white phosphorus.  Here it is being used in Fallujah:



looks kinda the same...

Last edited by m3thod (2009-01-04 18:01:22)

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Dilbert_X
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If it is white phos its criminal to be using it in Gaza.
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Cluster munitions are used by a lot of countries still and are more of a total war weapon. I know the UK a few months ago signed something to disarm them all and not use them again, for the grand sum of £30 million. What a waste of cash, sigh.

Though they do like those things outta war of the worlds lulz
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Looks like selective precision strikes to me.
Precision strikes aren't generally announced. Those photos are air burst, used against groups of infantry. All of those photos were taken today, after the ground offensive began. I don't know what was under them, hopefully that's where they dropped the gtfo pamphlets.
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AussieReaper
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Do you think that after this "war", Israel will promote another Democratic election to allow the Palestinians to elect another Government other than Hamas?

Not that it will be able to do much, with all the government buildings destroyed.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
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I hope so.

Of course Mugabe was "elected" also.
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CameronPoe
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TheAussieReaper wrote:

Do you think that after this "war", Israel will promote another Democratic election to allow the Palestinians to elect another Government other than Hamas?

Not that it will be able to do much, with all the government buildings destroyed.
Hamas fucked their democratic mandate when they shot/killed/imprisoned Fatah in Gaza several months ago...

Last edited by CameronPoe (2009-01-04 18:31:21)

ATG
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CameronPoe wrote:

To be fair this is a pretty legitimate military response to a barrage of rockets following a ceasefire Hamas wouldn't extend.

CameronPoe wrote:

I certainly will be wholeheartedly cheering the death of each and every single IDF soldier soon to be announced. Fuck you Israel, this 60 year rape must come to an end. You can't use Hamas as an excuse for not righting your wrongs.
wtf Cam.

you are flipping and flopping like a fish outta water. I got that move trademarked on these forums.
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ATG wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

To be fair this is a pretty legitimate military response to a barrage of rockets following a ceasefire Hamas wouldn't extend.

CameronPoe wrote:

I certainly will be wholeheartedly cheering the death of each and every single IDF soldier soon to be announced. Fuck you Israel, this 60 year rape must come to an end. You can't use Hamas as an excuse for not righting your wrongs.
wtf Cam.

you are flipping and flopping like a fish outta water. I got that move trademarked on these forums.
You seemed to omit the part where I said I wouldn't be lamenting the death of any Hamas militants....
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CameronPoe wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Do you think that after this "war", Israel will promote another Democratic election to allow the Palestinians to elect another Government other than Hamas?

Not that it will be able to do much, with all the government buildings destroyed.
Hamas fucked their democratic mandate when they shot/killed/imprisoned Fatah in Gaza several months ago...
I remember the inauguration.
https://i39.tinypic.com/2rc0f13.jpg

Remember Hamas did this when they were supposedly holding peace talks with Fatah. At least they are consistent.
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The only way out of this I see is that once Hamas is said to be cleared Israel open up the possibility of a long term and negotiated peace.

Without any form of government in place, the negotiations are going to be a bit one sided though.

The Iraq plan only much, much faster might work. If you clear out Hamas and let Palestine choose another less fundamental Govt. they should be less hostile as a whole since they were able to vote, and less hostile towards a peace deal Democratically if the Govt. is, (not a puppet), but certainly more docile.
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FEOS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

If it is white phos its criminal to be using it in Gaza.
It does look like WP, which is what I was getting at before. However, it's not at all criminal if it's used in the manner it is being used (and was used in Fallujah): as a smoke initiator, a target marker, or illuminator.

If WP shells were being shot into Gaza directly (as opposed to bursting hundreds of feet overhead), then it would certainly violate international law. They aren't, so it doesn't.
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I should explain my picture.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … -Gaza.html
The fall of the internal security service headquarters in southern Gaza City marked a significant triumph for Hamas, whose members were rounded up and tortured by the service's officers during a crackdown on the movement in the late 1990s.

Hamas declared the compound would now be known as the Heresy Compound and the surrounding neighbourhood, known as Tel al Hawa, or Hill of the Air, would be renamed the Hill of Islam.

Among the Hamas hardliners now believed to be driving the offensive are ex-interior minister Said Siam and ex-foreign minister Mahmoud al Zahar, both of whom are believed to have been tortured by Fatah-run security forces.

Hamas said it had "executed" a top Fatah "collaborator" and issued a death list of other supporters of Mr Abbas. The White House accused them of "acts of terror".

Masked Islamist militants kneeled to the ground and kissed the pavement. A victorious gunman stood on the roof hoisting a green Hamas flag into the air and firing his Kalashnikov rifle jubilantly skyward.

A kilometre away, meanwhile, along Gaza City's beachfront, Mr Abbas' presidential guard were awaiting a final assault on one of the last Fatah-controlled bastions in the Gaza Strip.

Pickup trucks whipped through the neighbourhood distributing wooden crates filled with bullets to bleary eyed fighters. Massive metal roadblocks were dragged into position sealing off the neighbourhood around Mr Abbas' compound from vehicle traffic. Civilians still living in the area were packing their families into cars and fleeing.

"There is no surrender for us now. There is only a fight to the death," said Fatah special forces fighter Abu Hassan, 30, who is unlikely to ever see his two year old daughter or seven month old son again.

"After Hamas take control there will be no place for us in Gaza," added Mr Hassan.
How can anyone support Hamas and a free Palestine?
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CameronPoe wrote:

ATG wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

To be fair this is a pretty legitimate military response to a barrage of rockets following a ceasefire Hamas wouldn't extend.

CameronPoe wrote:

I certainly will be wholeheartedly cheering the death of each and every single IDF soldier soon to be announced. Fuck you Israel, this 60 year rape must come to an end. You can't use Hamas as an excuse for not righting your wrongs.
wtf Cam.

you are flipping and flopping like a fish outta water. I got that move trademarked on these forums.
You seemed to omit the part where I said I wouldn't be lamenting the death of any Hamas militants....
it's okay Cam. Admitting you have a problem is the firt step towards recovery.

Now repeat after me.

" I cameronpoe..."

" am a troll. "






Seriously though, step away from the BBC and the anti Israel jaggernaut and ask yourself; why should israel tolerate random rocket fire?

Israel booted settlers, even dug up graves to reloccate the bodies of jews so they could have their dirt back.

What did they get? Rockets. Thousands of rockets and a bunch of idiots dancing in the streets proclaiming they had beat the jews.


Fuck 'em.  Send in nurses to remove all children under the age of ten and bomb the place flat.
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FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

If it is white phos its criminal to be using it in Gaza.
It does look like WP, which is what I was getting at before. However, it's not at all criminal if it's used in the manner it is being used (and was used in Fallujah): as a smoke initiator, a target marker, or illuminator.

If WP shells were being shot into Gaza directly (as opposed to bursting hundreds of feet overhead), then it would certainly violate international law. They aren't, so it doesn't.
What about Kerry's photos? The last one looks like what you describe to be WP, but the first two with the hot particles? Or is that simple what they look like when they burst overhead?
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ATG wrote:

Seriously though, step away from the BBC and the anti Israel jaggernaut and ask yourself; why should israel tolerate random rocket fire?

Israel booted settlers, even dug up graves to reloccate the bodies of jews so they could have their dirt back.

What did they get? Rockets. Thousands of rockets and a bunch of idiots dancing in the streets proclaiming they had beat the jews.

Fuck 'em.  Send in nurses to remove all children under the age of ten and bomb the place flat.
They shouldn't tolerate random rocket fire. They should address the issues leading people to constantly rise up in the face of settlement building, denial of the right of return, the absence of reparations for hundreds of thousands of refugees, the annexation of East Jerusalem, Ariel, Ma'ale Adumim, etc. They should bilaterally negotiate a withdrawal from the West Bank with FATAH and fuck Hamas. Any legitimacy Hamas might have had will wane - the only reason they got in in the first place was as a protest vote against - you guessed it - corrupt Fatah politicians.

ATG - there will always be rockets. Always. You can't bulldoze 1.5 million people. Well you can but then you'd be no better than Hitler which would in turn thoroughly justify your own liquidation at the hands of karma.

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Kmar
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https://i43.tinypic.com/155qoi9.gif
This guy keeps poppin up as I look over the top photos. I think we have another Islamic rage boy in the making.
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CameronPoe
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Why is he wearing mascara? It looks like a parody.

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