QFT but i find the media throws around the "hero" card too often. It kinda de-values the meaning. the soldier who threw himself on a grenade to save his 3 other buddies, thats a hero. but just getting shot, that isnt a hero in my books. Like i said, inspirational yes, heroic, no. honestly, heroism shouldnt be thrown around lightly. you cannot compare this "hero" to Michael A. Monsoor's Heroism.ATG wrote:
groan.
Consider it from just a human level.
The guy can't fucking see and he is assembling bikes. I consider that to be a ( somewhat low level admittedly ) heroic thing.
Maybe he was handing out toys to Afghan mothers in burkas when he was shot.
Maybe he was standing there with his junk in his hand working up a load.
Either way, there are able bodies fuckwits sitting on their asses.
No matter how you look at it, the story is inspiring.
Quit bickering you two! If you need to, do it thru pms pls, this is de-railing the threads
A Hero in my book. Oh look an American.usmarine wrote:
why cant you just speak to the OP you stupid motherfuckers. go america hate on your own little countries website or something. fucking assholes.
Meet Ray.
I graduated from West Point as an Army officer (2nd lieutenant) and chose the infantry because I thought it would provide the greatest challenges and leadership development. I served for 11 years before losing the fingers on my left hand while trying to protect my teammates from a defective hand grenade that was detonating prematurely.
While serving as a Green Beret (Special Forces), we were doing some classified training in Asia when a hand grenade that I was holding began detonating prematurely. I didn’t want to throw it since there were people around me and so held on to it. The blast cost me all the fingers on my left, non-dominant hand. I was hospitalized in Okinawa for a week, and then taken by Medevac airplane to Hawaii where I underwent about 5 months of treatment. It was a defining experience because it took all of my beliefs about leadership, character, values, and who I am, put them in my face and asked, “Here is your test - Are you real? Who are you?”
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Last edited by m3thod (2008-12-27 18:35:09)
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Well that's a fair point. At least you make one, instead of snarky remarks "so how does getting shot make you a hero" when there is obviously more to the story.destruktion_6143 wrote:
QFT but i find the media throws around the "hero" card too often. It kinda de-values the meaning. the soldier who threw himself on a grenade to save his 3 other buddies, thats a hero. but just getting shot, that isnt a hero in my books. Like i said, inspirational yes, heroic, no. honestly, heroism shouldnt be thrown around lightly. you cannot compare this "hero" to Michael A. Monsoor's Heroism.
I disagree though, you can compare things all ya want, there are degrees to how heroic an action is, and there's nothing wrong with recognizing the smaller and the bigger...
Or one astounding act of courage that saved lives, compared with showing day to day courage against debilitating odds and still living an exemplary life. Both show heroism but in different ways
Ray needs to find a better tailor, Jesus.m3thod wrote:
A Hero in my book. Oh look an American.usmarine wrote:
why cant you just speak to the OP you stupid motherfuckers. go america hate on your own little countries website or something. fucking assholes.
Meet Ray.
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
You could fit at least 3 Marines in those trousers.