Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6775

Turquoise wrote:

I understand where you're coming from Uzique, and in certain ways, I can agree with you.

Still, you had to know that you're walking into a shitstorm when you took the position that you did.

This may be the debate section of the forum, but as with a lot of debates, courtesy is few and far between.  You made an inflammatory assertion, and you received an inflammatory response.

I'm not saying anyone's right or wrong, but no one should be surprised here.
I don't think my assertion was 'inflammatory' at all, in fact my sentiments and post reflect the complete opposite. I made my own opinion and pass on the topic (which is more aligned to what all the fine, upstanding usual Americans here expressed) and then simply summarized the unfolding debate as a petty squabble over semantics-- over what exactly constitutes this concept of 'heroism' and the wordy connotations thereof. I wasn't being purposefully inflammatory or controversial, I know when I'm turning on that "permanent huckleberry" behaviour, and this thread was not one of those occasions. My post was more of an extension of m3th's point of view, rather than the rootin-fer-an-argument Max remarks.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6709|North Carolina
My apologies then.  I suppose I should direct my response to Max instead then.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6797|Connecticut
It's funny how Max insulted me for insulting him about not reading the article and then was actually dumb enough to prove he didn't really read it but pretended he did and now he hasn't shown up in this thread since. Major run on sentence there.
Malloy must go
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6775
It's no problem, of course it is foreseeable that in a thread with multiple responses from multiple people, it is factored down into a binary summary; us and them, our view against theirs etc.
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deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6797|Connecticut

max wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

max wrote:

. Only fight the battles you can win
Is that what you would tell your son?
Definitely. If you've got no chance of winning fighting is pointless.
Then your son shall be a coward like you. If there were 5 men trying to kidnap my wife I would fight to the death even though the odds were not in my favor. Some may argue that my child could have had one parent at least but now has none. I argue that some things are worth fighting for, no matter what the cost and I would never be able to look my boy in the eye knowing I did nothing at all.

Our lives are finite, however, our legacy lives in someones memory forever. I would rather fight and die to be remembered as a real man rather than continue life as a pussy.

Last edited by deeznutz1245 (2008-12-27 10:18:23)

Malloy must go
jord
Member
+2,382|6982|The North, beyond the wall.

deeznutz1245 wrote:

max wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:


Is that what you would tell your son?
Definitely. If you've got no chance of winning fighting is pointless.
Then your son shall be a coward like you. If there were 5 men trying to kidnap my wife I would fight to the death even though the odds were not in my favor. Some may argue that my child could have had one parent at least but now has none. I argue that some things are worth fighting for, no matter what the cost and I would never be able to look my boy in the eye knowing I did nothing at all.
+99999


And you may just get lucky, all throughout history smaller forces have won battles.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6709|North Carolina

deeznutz1245 wrote:

max wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:


Is that what you would tell your son?
Definitely. If you've got no chance of winning fighting is pointless.
Then your son shall be a coward like you. If there were 5 men trying to kidnap my wife I would fight to the death even though the odds were not in my favor. Some may argue that my child could have had one parent at least but now has none. I argue that some things are worth fighting for, no matter what the cost and I would never be able to look my boy in the eye knowing I did nothing at all.
This is kind of ironic, because "fighting to the death" is exactly what many Palestinians seem aimed at doing.

It's the very concept of fighting to the death that keeps this battle between Israel and Palestine perpetual.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6775

deeznutz1245 wrote:

max wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:


Is that what you would tell your son?
Definitely. If you've got no chance of winning fighting is pointless.
Then your son shall be a coward like you. If there were 5 men trying to kidnap my wife I would fight to the death even though the odds were not in my favor. Some may argue that my child could have had one parent at least but now has none. I argue that some things are worth fighting for, no matter what the cost and I would never be able to look my boy in the eye knowing I did nothing at all.
Agree with that, I hate to revert back to the WW2 tangent but what if the Russians had taken your pessimistic view at Stalingrad? True acts of valour and heroism don't surface from snatching up the successful and victorious opportunities that come easily to you- that's entirely contrary to the point of heroism.
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deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6797|Connecticut
Well hot diggity damn we have agreed on something. I think as we debated the true meaning of hero we have defined it in the end. At least for BF2 standards.
Malloy must go
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6975|UK
Change the title of this section to 'Agree With Me or Die you Fuckface'.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7066

m3thod wrote:

Change the title of this section to 'Agree With Me or Die you Fuckface'.
nah.  how about "Shit on Anything American"
jord
Member
+2,382|6982|The North, beyond the wall.

usmarine wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Change the title of this section to 'Agree With Me or Die you Fuckface'.
nah.  how about "Shit on Anything American"
How about "Nazi? Wish soldiers were dead? Like to debate Iraq as much as you can? Well come on down"

The name being so long adds to the character too.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6775
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with being anti-military or anti-Iraq, everyone can have their ideals and cling onto them as much as they like in debate. People that always whine about how threads turn in D&ST are often the culprits themselves in many cases - and it's hilarious to see how the main whine-cup candidates are always the most active people in this sub-Forum. Can't be all that bad, eh? Rename it to whatever you like, as long as these are pressing current issues of course engaged-individuals are going to talk about them and inter-relate them. Not really an intellectual crime.
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deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6797|Connecticut

m3thod wrote:

Change the title of this section to 'Agree With Me or Die you Fuckface'.
Or ......" I won't read the OP, or it's contents but because it is about a veteran I am against it even though I especially need soldiers because I am a flaming pussy and would lose a fight to a weeble wobble".
But, in some folks defense, they don't fall down.
Malloy must go
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6871|NYC / Hamburg

Shit, missed that bit over all the patriotic wailing

I'm sorry that I can't be online 24/7 and actually have stuff in RL to attend to.

That's all, I'm back to being a commie bastard, marrying gays and being a pussy euro-fag.

Have fun calling me whatever you want
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7066

max wrote:

I'm back to being a commie bastard, marrying gays and being a pussy euro-fag.
how many gays have you married?
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6975|UK

deeznutz1245 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Change the title of this section to 'Agree With Me or Die you Fuckface'.
Or ......" I won't read the OP, or it's contents but because it is about a veteran I am against it even though I especially need soldiers because I am a flaming pussy and would lose a fight to a weeble wobble".
But, in some folks defense, they don't fall down.
You're off your nut. It's debate (lol) not pansying around agreeing to your every whim.  The concept of heroism was 'debated'....some think he is, others don't.  No one fucking ragged on the blind man.  In fact i only got involved here because max was attacked....because he dared question why you think he was a hero? Legitimate query imo.  It's you hyena fuckers that rounded on him.  Hell i'll tell you right know i don't give a fuck about him, so why the fuck should i read the op and article? He didn't go to Afganistan because he wanted to attend a chimpanzee tea party did he?

If you wanted a campfire sing along and a collective cocksuck should have stuck it into EE.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7066

easy method.  put down the vest.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6797|Connecticut

m3thod wrote:

If you wanted a campfire sing along and a collective cocksuck should have stuck it into EE.
Because EE is for people who don't read the OP, and Rammunition.
Malloy must go
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6953

I worked in a bike shop once. I was allowed to keep my eyes.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7066

ghettoperson wrote:

I worked in a bike shop once. I was allowed to keep my eyes.
im gonna work on your face if you keep it up.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6410|eXtreme to the maX
Brave guy, shame he had to prove it having his life ruined by a pointless war.
Fuck Israel
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6410|eXtreme to the maX

Method wrote:

Change the title of this section to 'Agree With Me or Die you Fuckface'.
Might as well make that the title of all usmarines threads.

usmarine wrote:

im gonna work on your face if you keep it up.
You go for it internet tough guy.
Fuck Israel
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7066

Dilbert_X wrote:

Method wrote:

Change the title of this section to 'Agree With Me or Die you Fuckface'.
Might as well make that the title of all usmarines threads.

usmarine wrote:

im gonna work on your face if you keep it up.
You go for it internet tough guy.
troll
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6410|eXtreme to the maX

ATG wrote:

example; Cuba. We hate them and please tell me when the invasion was, I missed it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
The US doesn't invade South American countries, just hires mercenaries and/or kills them economically.
Fuck Israel

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