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Government to loan GM and Chrysler $13.4 billion from Wall Street bailout fund so that the embattled auto firms don't run out of cash.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- President Bush announced a rescue plan for General Motors and Chrysler LLC Friday morning that will make $13.4 billion in federal loans available almost immediately.

A senior administration official briefing reporters said he expects that GM (GM, Fortune 500) and Chrysler LLC will be signing the loan papers to access the cash later Friday morning.

The money will come from the $700 billion fund set aside to bailout Wall Street firms and banks in October.

With these loans, Treasury will have committed virtually all of the $350 billion of that fund that it can hand out without additional authorization from Congress. Once Congress releases the other $350 billion, the two automakers will be able to borrow an additional $4 billion.

GM will get $9.4 billion from the first allocation of federal loan money, while Chrysler would get the other $4 billion.

The loans are for three years but the money will have to be repaid in full within 30 days if the firms do not show themselves to be viable by March 31. It is expected that the companies will have to negotiate new agreements with unions and creditors in order to do so.

During brief remarks at the White House, President Bush said in normal times he would have not been in favor of preventing a bankruptcy of the two companies. But the current state of the economy and credit markets left him no choice but to act.

"Government has a responsibility to safeguard the broader health and stability of our economy," he said. "If we were to allow the free market to take its course now, it would almost certainly lead to disorderly bankruptcy and liquidation for the automakers."

"In the midst of a financial crisis and a recession, allowing the U.S. auto industry to collapse is not a responsible course of action," Bush added.

In a statement, President-elect Barack Obama said today's loan was "a necessary step to help avoid a collapse in our auto industry that would have devastating consequences for our economy and our workers"

Obama added that "the auto companies must not squander this chance to reform bad management practices and begin the long-term restructuring that is absolutely required to save this critical industry and the millions of American jobs that depend on it."

Conditions similar to auto bailout bill
The terms of the loan are similar to those set in the auto bailout legislation that was passed by the House last week but was shot down in the Senate.

Executives at GM and Chrysler must agree to limits on their compensation and eliminate perks such as corporate jets. The companies also must issue warrants, which convert into non-voting stock, to the government.

GM Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner said at a press conference Friday that he has agreed to reduce his salary to $1 a year and added that he has no intention to resign. Some critics of GM have called him for to do so.

"You think I would have gone through what I did the last 2 months if I didn't want to stay?" he said.

The loans do not include the concept of a so-called "car czar" to oversee the automakers, although it does say that a designee of the President would determine if the automakers are making the changes necessary for them to be considered viable.

The Bush administration official said that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson would fill that role in the remaining days of the current administration.

The loans call for the automakers to prove they are viable by March 31, even though they are not expected to be profitable by that date. They must submit the details of the plans by Feb. 17.

The government wants the automakers reduce their debt load by two-thirds via a debt for equity exchange with current bondholders and get the United Auto Workers union to agree to wages and work rules competitive with non-union plants operated by Asian auto manufacturers by the end of next year.

Wagoner said that negotiations with GM debt holders and the union will begin almost immediately now that the loans are in place. He added that the company is confident it will be able to meet the targets set out as terms of the loan.

In addition, the government is calling for GM and Chrysler to use their stock to pay for half the funds needed to cover future retiree health care expenses, which will be paid by union-controlled trust funds, rather than the automakers themselves, starting in 2010.

But there is flexibility for the companies and the incoming Obama administration to allow the loans to continue even if these targets are not reached, as long as GM and Chrysler can provide an explanation as to why they are viable without hitting those targets.

Republican senators demanded hard targets for labor union concessions and cited the UAW's resistance to agree to them as the reason the bill died last week.

But a Bush administration spokesman cautioned that the government should not play a big role in the union negotiations that will take place in the next three months.

"We do not feel it is appropriate for government to dictate the specific terms of negotiations between management and labor or management and dealers or management and creditors," the official said.

Time was running out
GM (GM, Fortune 500) has warned it will fall below the minimum amount of cash it needs to continue to operate without $4 billion in federal loans before the end of the month. Privately held Chrysler said it will need $4 billion or it will also run out of cash early next year.

Ford Motor (F, Fortune 500) has more cash on hand and has said it should be able to avoid tapping into federal dollars unless the weak auto sales continue longer than it expects in 2009.

Shares of GM soared more than 10% Friday morning on the news of the loan and Ford was up 5%.

U.S. auto sales plunged to 26-year lows last month as tight credit, rising job losses and weak consumer confidence have led to a virtual collapse in the auto market.

All of the major automakers, including Asian automakers Toyota Motor (TM) and Honda Motor (HMC), are cutting back production. But the situation is particularly severe at GM and Chrysler.

In the last week, those two automakers announced shutdowns of assembly lines for at least a month, several weeks longer than the typical shutdowns during the December holiday season.
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usmarine
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boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Jenspm
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Uzique
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Socialist scum.

Fascists.

So much for Lowing's 'True American' principle of the fittest surviving and no one having to pay for the other failures.

Government intervention/control of industry? Taking a leaf from Hitlers book now?
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Ajax_the_Great1
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It's gonna suck when these companies don't pay the loans back.
Uzique
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Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

It's gonna suck when these companies don't pay the loans back.
Perhaps they should start making good cars then .
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usmarine
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Uzique wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

It's gonna suck when these companies don't pay the loans back.
Perhaps they should start making good cars then .
yes because there are so many good british cars out there.
jord
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usmarine wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

It's gonna suck when these companies don't pay the loans back.
Perhaps they should start making good cars then .
yes because there are so many good british cars out there.
Sure are, thanks. I sure do love Bentleys, Jaguars, TVR's, Mini's, Rolls Royce's, Ascari A10 and the many other great cars we produce. Once again. thanks Marine.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
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Aston Martin
Jag
TVR
Rolls Royce
Bentley
Lotus
Range Rover
Morgan

I'll take Aston Martin DBS V12 over any yank car.

Last edited by m3thod (2008-12-19 09:37:29)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
usmarine
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jord wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Perhaps they should start making good cars then .
yes because there are so many good british cars out there.
Sure are, thanks. I sure do love Bentleys, Jaguars, TVR's, Mini's, Rolls Royce's, Ascari A10 and the many other great cars we produce. Once again. thanks Marine.
no not specialty cars.  common mass produced every day cars.
usmarine
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m3thod wrote:

Aston Martin
Jag
TVR
Rolls Royce
Bentley
Lotus
Range Rover
Morgan
yes because a typical family of four can drive a jag or aston.
m3thod
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brit mass produced cars died a long time ago lol
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
jord
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usmarine wrote:

jord wrote:

usmarine wrote:


yes because there are so many good british cars out there.
Sure are, thanks. I sure do love Bentleys, Jaguars, TVR's, Mini's, Rolls Royce's, Ascari A10 and the many other great cars we produce. Once again. thanks Marine.
no not specialty cars you dolt.  common mass produced every day cars.
You didn't say that in your original doltish statement did you. It's easy to never we wrong when you can just change what you said.
Kmar
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Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

It's gonna suck when these companies don't pay the loans back.
Chrysler did + interest. But I don't see anymore Lee Iacocca's in Detroit. It's no wonder that the title of his book was "Where Have All the Leaders Gone?"

Lee Iacocca's book wrote:

http://www.slatereport.info/LeeIacocca.html
"Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening?   Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder.   We've got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, "Stay the course"

    Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America, not the damned "Titanic". I'll give you a sound bite: "Throw all the bums out!"
     
    You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore.
     
    The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs. While we're fiddling in Iraq, the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving 'pom-poms' instead of asking hard questions. That's not the promise of the "America" my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I've had enough. How about you?
     
    I'll go a step further. You can't call yourself a patriot if you're not outraged.   This is a fight I'm ready and willing to have.
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usmarine
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jord wrote:

usmarine wrote:

jord wrote:


Sure are, thanks. I sure do love Bentleys, Jaguars, TVR's, Mini's, Rolls Royce's, Ascari A10 and the many other great cars we produce. Once again. thanks Marine.
no not specialty cars you dolt.  common mass produced every day cars.
You didn't say that in your original doltish statement did you. It's easy to never we wrong when you can just change what you said.
i knew someone would say what you said.  i figured you would get the idea.   guess not.
m3thod
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usmarine wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Aston Martin
Jag
TVR
Rolls Royce
Bentley
Lotus
Range Rover
Morgan
yes because a typical family of four can drive a jag or aston.
You should really be more specific when you post tbh. i could have sworn i typed something here and now its gone!

Last edited by m3thod (2008-12-19 09:56:29)

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jord
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usmarine wrote:

jord wrote:

usmarine wrote:


no not specialty cars you dolt.  common mass produced every day cars.
You didn't say that in your original doltish statement did you. It's easy to never we wrong when you can just change what you said.
i knew someone would say what you said.  i figured you would get the idea.   guess not.
You guessed right bitch, now have a wank to this bad boy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Cobra
usmarine
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m3thod wrote:

usmarine wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Aston Martin
Jag
TVR
Rolls Royce
Bentley
Lotus
Range Rover
Morgan
yes because a typical family of four can drive a jag or aston.
You should really be more specific when you post tbh.  I am not fluent in simpleton i am afraid.
well since we are talking about ford, gm, and other huge companies that mass produce cars, it kind of speaks for itself.
m3thod
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jord wrote:

usmarine wrote:

jord wrote:


You didn't say that in your original doltish statement did you. It's easy to never we wrong when you can just change what you said.
i knew someone would say what you said.  i figured you would get the idea.   guess not.
You guessed right bitch, now have a wank to this bad boy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Cobra
....they had ford engines. bad example.
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jord
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usmarine wrote:

m3thod wrote:

usmarine wrote:


yes because a typical family of four can drive a jag or aston.
You should really be more specific when you post tbh.  I am not fluent in simpleton i am afraid.
well since we are talking about ford, gm, and other huge companies that mass produce cars, it kind of speaks for itself.
Off the top of my head I don't know all the mass produced family cars made, because they bore me frankly. I know about shit like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_F1 because it's interesting.

But, me being nice I'll let you read through this. Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_cars
jord
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"The AC Cobra was a British built and designed sports car that was produced during the 1960s."

That's all the proof I need, a quote off wiki...
CammRobb
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Double edged sword IMO

Do America bail out the big three, potentially saving millions of jobs, but, with the opportunity cost of risking being $13 billion short for saving the banking system?

Or

Do America save the money and have assurance that they will be able to save the banking system and risk millions of jobs?
Bertster7
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usmarine wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Aston Martin
Jag
TVR
Rolls Royce
Bentley
Lotus
Range Rover
Morgan
yes because a typical family of four can drive a jag or aston.
Not an Aston, but the X-Type (amongst other Jags which are fine for families too) is a perfectly suitable car for a family of 4. I know several people who have one as their family car.
usmarine
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Bertster7 wrote:

Not an Aston, but the X-Type (amongst other Jags which are fine for families too) is a perfectly suitable car for a family of 4. I know several people who have one as their family car.
most families i know cant afford a jag as their family car.
DrunkFace
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usmarine wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Aston Martin
Jag
TVR
Rolls Royce
Bentley
Lotus
Range Rover
Morgan
yes because a typical family of four can drive a jag or aston.
Jags are typical family cars, Range Rovers are typical soccer mum cars. It's only the import duties that make them 'expensive' in the US.

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