Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6851|132 and Bush

san4 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

san4 wrote:

This is a time to be engaging with the world, not withdrawing from it.
I could do without playing the role of sugar daddy. That doesn't mean you have to "withdrawal" from the world. A purchased friend will never respect you. We are weakening ourselves at home. Make your bed before you leave.
Being sugar daddy for corrupt Arab governments is one thing, but the richest country in the world helping modernize poor local economies would be something very different. I don't know about friends, but we'd create customers and workers.
That is illogical. Do you really think we are in a position to go out and modernize the rest of the world? Create customers and workers? We are country of consumers now, not producers. We are doing exactly what our founders warned us to stay away from. We need to concentrate our efforts at home. An indefinite hand out only exacerbates the problem.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6433|Ireland

Kmarion wrote:

san4 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


I could do without playing the role of sugar daddy. That doesn't mean you have to "withdrawal" from the world. A purchased friend will never respect you. We are weakening ourselves at home. Make your bed before you leave.
Being sugar daddy for corrupt Arab governments is one thing, but the richest country in the world helping modernize poor local economies would be something very different. I don't know about friends, but we'd create customers and workers.
That is illogical. Do you really think we are in a position to go out and modernize the rest of the world? Create customers and workers? We are country of consumers now, not producers. We are doing exactly what our founders warned us to stay away from. We need to concentrate our efforts at home. An indefinite hand out only exacerbates the problem.
Another Trillion to the banks will strenghten America and solve our problems with our economy.  Our government is looking out for our interests so have no fear.
san4
The Mas
+311|6938|NYC, a place to live

Kmarion wrote:

san4 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I could do without playing the role of sugar daddy. That doesn't mean you have to "withdrawal" from the world. A purchased friend will never respect you. We are weakening ourselves at home. Make your bed before you leave.
Being sugar daddy for corrupt Arab governments is one thing, but the richest country in the world helping modernize poor local economies would be something very different. I don't know about friends, but we'd create customers and workers.
That is illogical. Do you really think we are in a position to go out and modernize the rest of the world? Create customers and workers? We are country of consumers now, not producers. We are doing exactly what our founders warned us to stay away from. We need to concentrate our efforts at home. An indefinite hand out only exacerbates the problem.
Iran is building roads in Afghanistan. I think that is a brilliant investment. I don't see that as putting Iran's economy or foreign policy at any great risk.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6473|Escea

If the Israelis went to war with Iran, I'd put good odds on them winning it. They did it before, several times, against multiple enemies using same era technology. Flying in to take out the nuclear facilities probably won't be much of a problem for them either, they did it in Iraq when they had that nuke facility. Russia wouldn't get involved, think of Georgia. Georgia is a US ally but didn't get involved because it could escalate further. Russia wouldn't risk a massive war over Iran. It's got all the oil it needs anyway so there's another reason why they wouldn't move in.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6851|132 and Bush

san4 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

san4 wrote:


Being sugar daddy for corrupt Arab governments is one thing, but the richest country in the world helping modernize poor local economies would be something very different. I don't know about friends, but we'd create customers and workers.
That is illogical. Do you really think we are in a position to go out and modernize the rest of the world? Create customers and workers? We are country of consumers now, not producers. We are doing exactly what our founders warned us to stay away from. We need to concentrate our efforts at home. An indefinite hand out only exacerbates the problem.
Iran is building roads in Afghanistan. I think that is a brilliant investment. I don't see that as putting Iran's economy or foreign policy at any great risk.
They are building roads in Afghanistan for free? Otherwise I don't see how that qualifies as aid.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6799|UK

They are certainly up for it.  As far as am aware the israeils had a huge war game last year with a mind to attacking back early summer but got knocked back.

It be interesting to see how other countrys react to it, it's not really, a, sit back and condem the agression sort of scenario.  If anyone tried to help iran out, you can be certain the west will have to come in, if not already be involved.

Martyn
san4
The Mas
+311|6938|NYC, a place to live

Kmarion wrote:

san4 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

That is illogical. Do you really think we are in a position to go out and modernize the rest of the world? Create customers and workers? We are country of consumers now, not producers. We are doing exactly what our founders warned us to stay away from. We need to concentrate our efforts at home. An indefinite hand out only exacerbates the problem.
Iran is building roads in Afghanistan. I think that is a brilliant investment. I don't see that as putting Iran's economy or foreign policy at any great risk.
They are building roads in Afghanistan for free? Otherwise I don't see how that qualifies as aid.
Seems to be for free and it's an excellent strategy:

Time Magazine wrote:

Since 2002, Tehran has pumped millions of dollars into Afghanistan's western provinces to build roads, electrical grids, schools and health clinics. On top of this, Iranian agents are dumping bags of cash in the laps of tribal leaders in Afghanistan's west, a State Department official tells TIME, "clearly intended to purchase influence and remind them: The Americans may be here for 10 or 20 years, but we will be here forever."
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6851|132 and Bush

san4 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

san4 wrote:

Iran is building roads in Afghanistan. I think that is a brilliant investment. I don't see that as putting Iran's economy or foreign policy at any great risk.
They are building roads in Afghanistan for free? Otherwise I don't see how that qualifies as aid.
Seems to be for free and it's an excellent strategy:

Time Magazine wrote:

Since 2002, Tehran has pumped millions of dollars into Afghanistan's western provinces to build roads, electrical grids, schools and health clinics. On top of this, Iranian agents are dumping bags of cash in the laps of tribal leaders in Afghanistan's west, a State Department official tells TIME, "clearly intended to purchase influence and remind them: The Americans may be here for 10 or 20 years, but we will be here forever."
Nothing at all compared to the decades of money we have dumped into Israel. We give them what they want without question. There is reconstruction after a war.. and then there is a perpetual and unchallenged dependency. We aren't just talking about roads neither, although I wish it were that simple.

There is one commonality though. Both countries are neglecting their citizens. The results speak for them self. Our own infrastructure is critical. We build bridges abroad while they collapse here. It seems we have problem prioritizing.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
13/f/taiwan
Member
+940|5949
Besides stopping a Nuclear Missile program and shutting Iran up what does the US benefit from going into war with Iran?
BVC
Member
+325|6946

rammunition wrote:

If israel attacks iran lets hope Iran wipes them off the map, enough is enough, zionazism must be destroyed
Advocating genocide are we?  You don't have a shaved head & red/white bootlaces, by any chance?
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6966

rammunition wrote:

steelie34 wrote:

the reason iran shouldn't have nuclear weapons is because they will use them to attack israel, and not as a deterrent.  that is the only reason the other countries who have nukes are not under intense international pressure.
IRAN WANTS NUCLEAR POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oil prices are going down, the world wants an alternative and the oil rich countries need to adapt to these changes, and that alternative is NUCLEAR POWER!!!!!!

READ THIS LINK

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008 … lear_N.htm

the more you look at the EVIDENCE and not propaganda you realise Iran wants the technology, not weapons.
I agree with rammunition. If Israel carries out an airstrike on Iranian nuclear weapons facilities, a fair penalty would be for all Israeli children and their parents to die.
i am glad you agree
Iran only want's nuclear power...hahahahahhaha... that's great... thank you for the laugh...
Love is the answer
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6655|North Carolina

12/f/taiwan wrote:

Besides stopping a Nuclear Missile program and shutting Iran up what does the US benefit from going into war with Iran?
Good question...  a question that won't likely be answered by the "support Israel no matter what" folks.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6966

Turquoise wrote:

12/f/taiwan wrote:

Besides stopping a Nuclear Missile program and shutting Iran up what does the US benefit from going into war with Iran?
Good question...  a question that won't likely be answered by the "support Israel no matter what" folks.
stopping their nuke plan is the only reason i know of... I don't think anyone want's to go to war with Iran for the heck of it...
Love is the answer
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6655|North Carolina

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

12/f/taiwan wrote:

Besides stopping a Nuclear Missile program and shutting Iran up what does the US benefit from going into war with Iran?
Good question...  a question that won't likely be answered by the "support Israel no matter what" folks.
stopping their nuke plan is the only reason i know of... I don't think anyone want's to go to war with Iran for the heck of it...
We can only hope...

Still, it is pretty hypocritical to expect Iran to end its nuclear research as long as Israel has nukes.
13rin
Member
+977|6729

Turquoise wrote:

12/f/taiwan wrote:

Besides stopping a Nuclear Missile program and shutting Iran up what does the US benefit from going into war with Iran?
Good question...  a question that won't likely be answered by the "support Israel no matter what" folks.
Simple simpleton, no more aggressive Iran.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6655|North Carolina

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

12/f/taiwan wrote:

Besides stopping a Nuclear Missile program and shutting Iran up what does the US benefit from going into war with Iran?
Good question...  a question that won't likely be answered by the "support Israel no matter what" folks.
Simple simpleton, no more aggressive Iran.
Um...  what makes you think that?  Iran has been aggressive ever since the overthrow of the Shah.  Remember the Iran-Iraq War?  Removing nukes isn't going to change much, although it may encourage Iran to aid insurgencies more.

If Iran gets nukes, they'll be held to a different standard than they currently are.  Look at Pakistan, for example.  Whenever bad shit happens related to Pakistan, we're on their ass about it -- as we should be.  The rest of the world generally backs us on it as well.

Iran isn't currently seen as much of a threat by the world right now because of their non-nuclear status.  Once they get their nukes, they'll have to be more careful, because if they aren't, the world won't hold back (we definitely won't).

If anything, a nuclear Iran might actually benefit us in the long run, because it will legitimize the perception of them as a threat, which will make it more likely for our allies and potential allies to side with us in many disputes we may have with them in the near future.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6851|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


Good question...  a question that won't likely be answered by the "support Israel no matter what" folks.
stopping their nuke plan is the only reason i know of... I don't think anyone want's to go to war with Iran for the heck of it...
We can only hope...

Still, it is pretty hypocritical to expect Iran to end its nuclear research as long as Israel has nukes.
Israel never pen to paper.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7012

my answer to the OP title: Good.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6915|NT, like Mick Dundee

Pubic wrote:

rammunition wrote:

If israel attacks iran lets hope Iran wipes them off the map, enough is enough, zionazism must be destroyed
Advocating genocide are we?  You don't have a shaved head & red/white bootlaces, by any chance?
Err, Pubic m8 I know this is Ramm but your assumption about him is incorrect.

Israel has a population consisting of not just jews, but christians and muslims too. If he wanted to systematically wipe out the Jewish population of the world he'd have to not just kill anybody of the jewish religion, he'd also have to burn most major ancient history texts and destroy all existing copies of the Tanakh, Talmud and the Zohar. I think that's the three main texts or w/e they use anyway.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6112

Flecco wrote:

Pubic wrote:

rammunition wrote:

If israel attacks iran lets hope Iran wipes them off the map, enough is enough, zionazism must be destroyed
Advocating genocide are we?  You don't have a shaved head & red/white bootlaces, by any chance?
Err, Pubic m8 I know this is Ramm but your assumption about him is incorrect.

Israel has a population consisting of not just jews, but christians and muslims too. If he wanted to systematically wipe out the Jewish population of the world he'd have to not just kill anybody of the jewish religion, he'd also have to burn most major ancient history texts and destroy all existing copies of the Tanakh, Talmud and the Zohar. I think that's the three main texts or w/e they use anyway.
reda what i said, i stated Iran should wipe Israel off if they attack them, in retaliation that is fine, the fate of Israel is in their own hands
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6915|NT, like Mick Dundee

rammunition wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Pubic wrote:


Advocating genocide are we?  You don't have a shaved head & red/white bootlaces, by any chance?
Err, Pubic m8 I know this is Ramm but your assumption about him is incorrect.

Israel has a population consisting of not just jews, but christians and muslims too. If he wanted to systematically wipe out the Jewish population of the world he'd have to not just kill anybody of the jewish religion, he'd also have to burn most major ancient history texts and destroy all existing copies of the Tanakh, Talmud and the Zohar. I think that's the three main texts or w/e they use anyway.
reda what i said, i stated Iran should wipe Israel off if they attack them, in retaliation that is fine, the fate of Israel is in their own hands
Retaliating to a conventional weapons strike with nukes would mean the end of Iran's current government.

Either they'd be removed by force or sanctions against them by the UN would result in the populace ridding themselves of the current government.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6112

Flecco wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Flecco wrote:


Err, Pubic m8 I know this is Ramm but your assumption about him is incorrect.

Israel has a population consisting of not just jews, but christians and muslims too. If he wanted to systematically wipe out the Jewish population of the world he'd have to not just kill anybody of the jewish religion, he'd also have to burn most major ancient history texts and destroy all existing copies of the Tanakh, Talmud and the Zohar. I think that's the three main texts or w/e they use anyway.
reda what i said, i stated Iran should wipe Israel off if they attack them, in retaliation that is fine, the fate of Israel is in their own hands
Retaliating to a conventional weapons strike with nukes would mean the end of Iran's current government.

Either they'd be removed by force or sanctions against them by the UN would result in the populace ridding themselves of the current government.
i don't think the Iranian Gov cares what happens, as long as Israel is defeated, they don't care what the response to them may be
AutralianChainsaw
Member
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Wipe Israel from the map = zionist regime vanishing from the pages of time so the jews and arabs can live in peace in Palestine like they live in peace in the beautiful country of Iran.

Nobody talk about mass extermination of human beings here.. you all watch too much TV.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6915|NT, like Mick Dundee

If you really believe they are suicidal you are probs pretty mistaken.

Ahmadinnarjacket is a politician too.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6112

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Wipe Israel from the map = zionist regime vanishing from the pages of time so the jews and arabs can live in peace in Palestine like they live in peace in the beautiful country of Iran.

Nobody talk about mass extermination of human beings here.. you all watch too much TV.
not just watching, being brainwashed by it by the looks of it aswell

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