Spidery_Yoda
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That is the lamest tactic ever. I've seen people talk about it plenty of times on the Steam forums plenty of times.

I honestly think Valve should make it so that during finale's you can't just hide in the closet like that. It's not even fun, you just do it to finish the level. All 4 levels have survivor closets, and so the finales just become a shooting gallery. No fun at all, no danger, just tedium to finish the level. You can even do it on No Mercy vs mode for crying out loud.

I'm hoping that Valve will patch out the closets for the big battles.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6748|Long Island, New York

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

That is the lamest tactic ever. I've seen people talk about it plenty of times on the Steam forums plenty of times.

I honestly think Valve should make it so that during finale's you can't just hide in the closet like that. It's not even fun, you just do it to finish the level. All 4 levels have survivor closets, and so the finales just become a shooting gallery. No fun at all, no danger, just tedium to finish the level. You can even do it on No Mercy vs mode for crying out loud.

I'm hoping that Valve will patch out the closets for the big battles.
...Dude.

It is a SURVIVAL GAME. Why are you making it into so much more? If they SURVIVED the SURVIVAL game doing that, what's the problem?
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6481
Well on vs mode I shouldn't have to point out the problem.

But for standard co-op. It's just. Bad. The game was designed so that there was nowhere you could go to escape the infected. Nowhere allowed you absolute defense. It even says it in the dev commentary. They obviously overlooked the 'closet defense' thing.

You may as well turn on God mode and noclip through the level. Thats about how low I see 'closet defense' because there is no way to get harmed. You survive doing that too so whats the problem right?
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6748|Long Island, New York

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

Well on vs mode I shouldn't have to point out the problem.

But for standard co-op. It's just. Bad. The game was designed so that there was nowhere you could go to escape the infected. Nowhere allowed you absolute defense. It even says it in the dev commentary. They obviously overlooked the 'closet defense' thing.

You may as well turn on God mode and noclip through the level. Thats about how low I see 'closet defense' because there is no way to get harmed. You survive doing that too so whats the problem right?
It's very, very capable to do it on Versus mode if you have competent teammates. In fact, this exact same thing happened to me on the 4th level of No Mercy (when the survivors were waiting for the elevator). They all huddled into the closet in the little inlet, I was a smoker, pulled one of them out while at the same time had one other guy who was a boomer spray them with bile. Had that same guy then jumped by a Hunter and he was eventually killed.

The closet defense is not "unstoppable", it just requires teamwork.

But on campaign mode, who the fuck cares?
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6481
Fine it doesn't bother me what people choose to do with their limited game-time. If they want to sit in a tiny room shooting the stream of zombies that come through the door for hours on end then let them.
Kez
Member
+778|5914|London, UK
On Versus Mode (on No Mercy, Stage 5 anyway) there are no closets to hide in.

It don't matter anyway, it works.
NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6679

Poseidon wrote:

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

That is the lamest tactic ever. I've seen people talk about it plenty of times on the Steam forums plenty of times.

I honestly think Valve should make it so that during finale's you can't just hide in the closet like that. It's not even fun, you just do it to finish the level. All 4 levels have survivor closets, and so the finales just become a shooting gallery. No fun at all, no danger, just tedium to finish the level. You can even do it on No Mercy vs mode for crying out loud.

I'm hoping that Valve will patch out the closets for the big battles.
...Dude.

It is a SURVIVAL GAME. Why are you making it into so much more? If they SURVIVED the SURVIVAL game doing that, what's the problem?
It is a GAME. Why are you making it into so much more?

Well sure, if you have fun sitting in the god damn closet pressing one button... I prefer actually having a challenge.
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DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6367|Vancouver | Canada

Poseidon wrote:

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

Well on vs mode I shouldn't have to point out the problem.

But for standard co-op. It's just. Bad. The game was designed so that there was nowhere you could go to escape the infected. Nowhere allowed you absolute defense. It even says it in the dev commentary. They obviously overlooked the 'closet defense' thing.

You may as well turn on God mode and noclip through the level. Thats about how low I see 'closet defense' because there is no way to get harmed. You survive doing that too so whats the problem right?
It's very, very capable to do it on Versus mode if you have competent teammates. In fact, this exact same thing happened to me on the 4th level of No Mercy (when the survivors were waiting for the elevator). They all huddled into the closet in the little inlet, I was a smoker, pulled one of them out while at the same time had one other guy who was a boomer spray them with bile. Had that same guy then jumped by a Hunter and he was eventually killed.

The closet defense is not "unstoppable", it just requires teamwork.

But on campaign mode, who the fuck cares?
The Survivors must've been unaware of their right mouse button for that to work though.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6748|Long Island, New York

NooBesT wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

That is the lamest tactic ever. I've seen people talk about it plenty of times on the Steam forums plenty of times.

I honestly think Valve should make it so that during finale's you can't just hide in the closet like that. It's not even fun, you just do it to finish the level. All 4 levels have survivor closets, and so the finales just become a shooting gallery. No fun at all, no danger, just tedium to finish the level. You can even do it on No Mercy vs mode for crying out loud.

I'm hoping that Valve will patch out the closets for the big battles.
...Dude.

It is a SURVIVAL GAME. Why are you making it into so much more? If they SURVIVED the SURVIVAL game doing that, what's the problem?
It is a GAME. Why are you making it into so much more?

Well sure, if you have fun sitting in the god damn closet pressing one button... I prefer actually having a challenge.
aww look, Noobest is butthurt (again).

Congratulations, you like having a challenge. Some people like beating the game using whatever tactic possible, as long as it's legitimate and not hacking/cheating.

Perhaps you should learn that not every person on Earth is like you.
Kez
Member
+778|5914|London, UK
I like my closet tactic
SharkyMcshark
I'll take two
+132|6996|Perth, Western Australia
Okay now that I'm home, in seriousness, and trying to avoid stuff that has been said before.

General Play

- Crouching makes all weapons, but especially the pistol, more accurate.
- If you're confronted with a horde and run dry, you can melee while reloading/ Seriously, just press the reload key and spam away at melee
- If you've got a horde coming from behind or rushing at you close a door, shoot a hole in it, and blast them through that

Tanks

- Fight them in open areas. If the tank HOMG music starts get to an open area that you've already advanced past (tanks tend to come from the front)
- If the tank knocks someone down and starts wailing on them, get in point blank range behind them with the autoshotgun. Not only will this make them leave alone (ie not perma kill) the incapped person, but it does maxi damage.
- The tank can be easily confused. If it's chasing you, hurl yourself of a ledge that requires you to be pulled up by team mates. In most cases (from personal experience) it gets confused, tries to hit you, and falls off. Works best on the rooftop finale in No Mercy.

Boomer

- If you get vomitted on, the horde will be coming for YOU. Retreat behind your team mates, who the zombies in the horde will run PAST to get to you. This gives them a chance to thin the numbers.

More as I think of them
SharkyMcshark
I'll take two
+132|6996|Perth, Western Australia
Also the best strat that has worked for us on the Rooftop finale is to have two people outside calling the chopper, and then two go back inside to the end of the corridor where the saferoom is. Most of the zombies have pissed it down the ladder towards to people at the end of the long corridor the times that we've done this so they get cut through fairly easy. When the tank comes, the poeple outside either run circles around it and kill it, or if it goes inside use one of the molotovs from the saferoom and unload on it as it slowly crouches to get through the vent next to the shaft. Rinse and repeat for the next two waves, and then it's a mad dash to get to chopper. We did it a few days back with no deaths on advanced.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|6985|Noizyland

Here's a Witch tip that I tried the other day. If you happen to encounter a Witch who's squatting next to or under the petrol station in No Mercy, blow the petrol station up. I tell you there is no fucking better way to deal to a Witch. Overkill? Yes. Satisfying? You bet your ass it was.
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Kez
Member
+778|5914|London, UK

Ty wrote:

Here's a Witch tip that I tried the other day. If you happen to encounter a Witch who's squatting next to or under the petrol station in No Mercy, blow the petrol station up. I tell you there is no fucking better way to deal to a Witch. Overkill? Yes. Satisfying? You bet your ass it was.
Or if the Witch is by the Lift you need to go up, one person (who is going to shoot her) goes into the building to the right of the petrol station. Shoot the witch, as the witch runs towards you, a team-mate should blow the petrol station up while she's running. Its soooooo awesome to see that
Spidery_Yoda
Member
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Kptk92 wrote:

On Versus Mode (on No Mercy, Stage 5 anyway) there are no closets to hide in.

It don't matter anyway, it works.
Apparently on the No Mercy finale on VS there is somewhere thats very like a closet that you can hide in. Dunno where it is though.

Anyway never mind eh . We can all play how we like. Sorry I was in such a bad mood last night. I still feel however that they should do something about those closets. Making them have breakable walls would do the trick :p.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2008-11-30 04:58:21)

Kez
Member
+778|5914|London, UK
Its fun to survive Yoda (y)
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6497|eng
If someone has thrown a pipebomb at a horde, don't shoot the zombies that are crowded round the bomb, it's a cheap kill and it wastes ammo as they will die anyway.
#rekt
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6481

Kptk92 wrote:

Its fun to survive Yoda (y)
Just so you all don't think it was just me being an ass for no reason:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s … p?t=758166
Fat_Swinub
jaff
+125|6646
If you have less than 50HP and there's another survivor to go to the next stage, kill yourself inside the safe house. Your stuff will be in the floor next map and you'll respawn with 50HP.
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6481

Fat_Swinub wrote:

If you have less than 50HP and there's another survivor to go to the next stage, kill yourself inside the safe house. Your stuff will be in the floor next map and you'll respawn with 50HP.
That's a very good idea actually.

However it will cause you to fail any 'survive the entire campaign' achievements.
NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6679

Poseidon wrote:

NooBesT wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

...Dude.

It is a SURVIVAL GAME. Why are you making it into so much more? If they SURVIVED the SURVIVAL game doing that, what's the problem?
It is a GAME. Why are you making it into so much more?

Well sure, if you have fun sitting in the god damn closet pressing one button... I prefer actually having a challenge.
aww look, Noobest is butthurt (again).

Congratulations, you like having a challenge. Some people like beating the game using whatever tactic possible, as long as it's legitimate and not hacking/cheating.

Perhaps you should learn that not every person on Earth is like you.
Can you even read?

NooBesT wrote:

Well sure, if you have fun sitting in the god damn closet pressing one button...
That means I don't fucking care if you want to sit in the closet. No need to come here insult me like that.

Last edited by NooBesT (2008-12-01 14:51:08)

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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6748|Long Island, New York

NooBest wrote:

Can you even read?

NooBest wrote:

No need to come here insult me like that.
Lol, irony. I responded like that because as of late you always come back with these smug responses, so frankly it's not even worth it anymore.

The only person who made it into anything more was you, acting like Kerry's tactic wasn't challenging (regardless of whether it is or not, the point is moot) and that he shouldn't play like that. If he chooses to play the game like that, it's his choice.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-12-01 15:00:18)

NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6679

Poseidon wrote:

NooBest wrote:

Can you even read?

NooBest wrote:

No need to come here insult me like that.
Lol, irony. I responded like that because as of late you always come back with these smug responses, so frankly it's not even worth it anymore.

The only person who made it into anything more was you, acting like Kerry's tactic wasn't challenging (regardless of whether it is or not, the point is moot) and that he shouldn't play like that. If he chooses to play the game like that, it's his choice.
I was only questioning your reading capabliites because there was evidence that they are lacking. You're taking it out of context.
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6748|Long Island, New York

NooBesT wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

NooBest wrote:

Can you even read?

NooBest wrote:

No need to come here insult me like that.
Lol, irony. I responded like that because as of late you always come back with these smug responses, so frankly it's not even worth it anymore.

The only person who made it into anything more was you, acting like Kerry's tactic wasn't challenging (regardless of whether it is or not, the point is moot) and that he shouldn't play like that. If he chooses to play the game like that, it's his choice.
I was only questioning your reading capabliites because there was evidence that they are lacking. You're taking it out of context.
I read what you said crystal clear. You blasted Kerry for using his closet tactic in campaign which is utterly ridiculous.

Especially considering the fact that he played it on Normal or Easy (IIRC) which probably meant that he just wanted to complete the campaigns.

Fuck sake, man. Seriously.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-12-01 16:56:30)

Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6481
Guys calm down.

At least you didn't go make out with a random girl in a bar just after the girl you've been waiting for for 4 years finally starts to like you .

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