Guantánamo Inmate's Lawyer Asks Irish State To Give Him A Home

2008-11-17 16:22:06

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Braddock: Agitator; +916|6595|Éire

Guantánamo inmate's lawyer asks State to give him a home

A Guantánamo Bay detainee's lawyer is in discussions with the Department of Justice and the Department of Foreign Affairs about the possibility of allowing him to settle in Ireland. If the Government agrees, it will become the first EU state to accept a Guantánamo detainee who is not one of its citizens. Oybek Jamoldinivich Jabbarov, a 30-year-old Uzbek national who was living as a refugee in Afghanistan when he was captured in 2001, has been cleared for release but remains at the US detention centre because he cannot return to his native Uzbekistan for fear of torture or other ill-treatment. Mr Jabbarov's Boston-based lawyer Michael Mone has discussed his client's predicament with officials from the Department of Justice and the Department of Foreign Affairs. "I think he would be a perfect fit for Ireland," Mr Mone told The Irish Times. "He has told me over and over again that he wants to be settled in a country that is free, safe and democratic."

2008-11-17 16:25:18

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2008-11-17 16:29:41

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Braddock: Agitator; +916|6595|Éire

I don't think I'd care to be honest. Ireland has little or no Al Qaeda infrastructure to speak of... I think these kind of groups are still a bit wary of the spectre of the IRA to be honest. He would have no terrorist underbelly to slip into... and that's presuming he was even guilty of anything.

2008-11-17 16:31:38

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CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6860

Braddock, you obviously didn't read into this story too fully. I'm not saying whether we should give him amnesty or not but he was released from Guantanamo for a reason: they had nothing on him. He was not captured by the US in the field but rather handed to the US by the Northern Alliance. For all anyone knows they could just have bore a grudge against him so they decided to fuck him over. He is originally from Uzbekistan. His case makes a mockery of the 'Gitmo is a fair and just place' nonsense tbh.

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2008-11-17 16:33:21

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.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6758|The Twilight Zone

Didn't Obama say hes gonna close Guantanamo?

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2008-11-17 16:33:52

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usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7066

Braddock wrote:
Ireland has little or no Al Qaeda infrastructure to speak of...

maybe...

MI5 targets Ireland's al-Qaeda cells
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/ma … da.ireland

2008-11-17 16:37:35

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Braddock: Agitator; +916|6595|Éire

CameronPoe wrote:
Braddock, you obviously didn't read into this story too fully. I'm not saying whether we should give him amnesty or not but he was released from Guantanamo for a reason: they had nothing on him. He was not captured by the US in the field but rather handed to the US by the Northern Alliance. For all anyone knows they could just have bore a grudge against him so they decided to fuck him over. He is originally from Uzbekistan. His case makes a mockery of the 'Gitmo is a fair and just place' nonsense tbh.

Braddock wrote:
I don't think I'd care to be honest. Ireland has little or no Al Qaeda infrastructure to speak of... I think these kind of groups are still a bit wary of the spectre of the IRA to be honest. He would have no terrorist underbelly to slip into... and that's presuming he was even guilty of anything.

2008-11-17 16:38:33

#8

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6758|The Twilight Zone

Braddock wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
Braddock, you obviously didn't read into this story too fully. I'm not saying whether we should give him amnesty or not but he was released from Guantanamo for a reason: they had nothing on him. He was not captured by the US in the field but rather handed to the US by the Northern Alliance. For all anyone knows they could just have bore a grudge against him so they decided to fuck him over. He is originally from Uzbekistan. His case makes a mockery of the 'Gitmo is a fair and just place' nonsense tbh.
Braddock wrote:
I don't think I'd care to be honest. Ireland has little or no Al Qaeda infrastructure to speak of... I think these kind of groups are still a bit wary of the spectre of the IRA to be honest. He would have no terrorist underbelly to slip into... and that's presuming he was even guilty of anything.

.Sup wrote:
Didn't Obama say hes gonna close Guantanamo?

Yeah just ignore me Brad

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2008-11-17 16:38:54

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Braddock: Agitator; +916|6595|Éire

usmarine wrote:
Braddock wrote:
Ireland has little or no Al Qaeda infrastructure to speak of...
maybe...

MI5 targets Ireland's al-Qaeda cells
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/ma … da.ireland

I aint losing any sleep.

2008-11-17 16:41:05

#10

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6595|Éire

.Sup wrote:
Didn't Obama say hes gonna close Guantanamo?

Yes, this story is an offshoot of that fact. These people have to go somewhere now and many of them had nothing resembling credible evidence against them in the first place and so can't justifiably go into regular prisons that require an actual trace of guilt to warrant incarceration.

2008-11-17 19:46:03

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FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6715|'Murka

There's plenty of terrorist training camps there for him to brush up on his skills...

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2008-11-17 20:07:42

#12

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|7021

Braddock wrote:
usmarine wrote:
Braddock wrote:
Ireland has little or no Al Qaeda infrastructure to speak of...
maybe...

MI5 targets Ireland's al-Qaeda cells
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/ma … da.ireland
I aint losing any sleep.

I would bet on the IRA winning against AL-Q....lol...

Love is the answer

2008-11-17 23:31:31

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Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6410|eXtreme to the maX

If he hasn't done anything there's not much issue giving him asylum.

FEOS wrote:
There's plenty of terrorist training camps there for him to brush up on his skills...

He's been cleared for release by your miserable 'legal system' at Gitmo.
He's not therefore even a suspected terrorist.
Guilty until proven innocent for the fuzzy-wuzzies eh FEOS?

Fuck Israel

2008-11-18 03:35:59

#14

JahManRed: wank; +646|6932|IRELAND

CameronPoe wrote:
Braddock, you obviously didn't read into this story too fully. I'm not saying whether we should give him amnesty or not but he was released from Guantanamo for a reason: they had nothing on him. He was not captured by the US in the field but rather handed to the US by the Northern Alliance. For all anyone knows they could just have bore a grudge against him so they decided to fuck him over. He is originally from Uzbekistan. His case makes a mockery of the 'Gitmo is a fair and just place' nonsense tbh.

They picked up a $5000 reward for handing him over. They offered him a lift and dropped him of with the yanks and got paid. Wrong place, wrong time.
I say Ireland should take him. He is just one person. Although its the USA's mess so they should compensate Ireland for whatever it costs to resettle him.

2008-11-18 03:42:06

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Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6410|eXtreme to the maX

And they need to compensate him for abducting him and locking him up for five years for no reason.

Fuck Israel

2008-11-18 03:49:47

#16

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6457|what

He was a refugee in Afghanistan. You'd think he could apply for refugee status almost anywhere.

2008-11-18 04:33:23

#17

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Dilbert_X wrote:
And they need to compensate him for abducting him and locking him up for five years for no reason.

Super serial

He'd probs have more luck going to Switzerland or something.

2008-11-18 07:29:53

#18

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6595|Éire

[TUF]Catbox wrote:
Braddock wrote:
usmarine wrote:

maybe...

MI5 targets Ireland's al-Qaeda cells
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/ma … da.ireland
I aint losing any sleep.
I would bet on the IRA winning against AL-Q

So would I.

2008-11-18 19:58:07

#19

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6715|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:
If he hasn't done anything there's not much issue giving him asylum.

FEOS wrote:
There's plenty of terrorist training camps there for him to brush up on his skills...
He's been cleared for release by your miserable 'legal system' at Gitmo.
He's not therefore even a suspected terrorist.
Guilty until proven innocent for the fuzzy-wuzzies eh FEOS?

Go find your sense of humor.

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― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2008-11-18 21:00:49

#20

deeznutz1245: Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.; +483|6797|Connecticut

So I dont get it. Why would we punish this guy further by making him live in Ireland?

Malloy must go

2008-11-18 22:22:54

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imortal: Member; +240|6969|Austin, TX

Dilbert_X wrote:
And they need to compensate him for abducting him and locking him up for five years for no reason.

...what, letting him live is suddenly not good enough?

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