Preventing Global Warming Necessary?

2008-11-14 02:10:22

#1

Warhammer: Member; +18|5985

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ … tists.html

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/69623

http://www.dailytech.com/A+Melting+Arct … e12882.htm

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blog … -poof.aspx

Should we actually try not to prevent it. Instead just let mankind do their daily routine in whatever they need to get done and scientifically progress without limitations, and not spend billions, maybe trillions, on preventing this. We can also use the money to go into other kinds of more beneficial research.

I think we should.

Please discuss, I am curious of your current views on this subject.

2008-11-14 02:15:17

#2

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6775

Nah it's not necessary, I welcome the next ice age that will kill off neanderthals like you who would prefer money to be spent on useless crap like AIDS-cures.

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2008-11-14 02:21:55

#3

Warhammer: Member; +18|5985

Not just aids/cures, but all fields. I hate passing billions towards African AID relief programs as well. But I am getting across as a point if it should not be spent at all or put into all fields of science. Considering that global warming gives us better conditions than cold starvations, and it fluctuates and not man made.

2008-11-14 02:25:25

#4

Buckles: Cheeky Keen; +329|6861|Kent, UK

Technically, we're in an ice age now because the northern and southern polar ice sheets are still present

2008-11-14 03:40:37

#5

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6527|Escea

It was going to happen anyway regardless of what we did.

2008-11-14 03:44:11

#6

jord: Member; +2,382|6983|The North, beyond the wall.

What's the point in arguing with the big culprits, it just reaches a stand still. I'd prefer the money was spent on space exploration and research on how we can live on mars.

2008-11-14 03:47:39

#7

Burwhale: Save the BlobFish!; +136|6527|Brisneyland

From the first article:

There’s no excuse for saying “we’ve got to keep pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere,”’ he told Reuters.
‘Geologically it’s tomorrow, but we have lots of time to argue about the appropriate level of greenhouse gases.’

He also said that the massive Ice age would happen in 10000-100000 years. Man made climate change will affect us in the next 100 years.

There are many other benefits from getting power from clean energy. Good for jobs and economy. Coal fired power plants emit more uranium into the air than nuclear power plants. Not to mention mercury etc. New computer models show that global warming is so rapid that it cant be caused by natural fluctuations.
We are going to run out of Fossil fuels anyway so why not develop alternative energy sources.

2008-11-14 04:10:22

#8

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6410|eXtreme to the maX

If you don't mind the world population dropping by a factor of, say 10-100 over one or two generations, go ahead with letting global warming happen.

Given that fossil fuels will run out in our lifetime its a no-brainer to get on and develop alternatives even if global warming is bunk.
Sooner rather than later and two problems solved in one go.

Fuck Israel

2008-11-14 04:15:48

#9

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7066

fuck global warming.

2008-11-14 04:16:37

#10

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6595|Éire

Simple facts...

Fossil fuels are going to run out eventually, alternatives need to be developed.

Pumping pollution into the environment is not good, it might not be as bad as some of the doom and gloom scientists are saying but it is still not good - I don't think anyone can argue with that. If we can curb our levels of pollution then we should but we should do it wisely and not just throw millions into badly thought out programs.

Putting your head in the ground like an ostrich will solve fuck all.

2008-11-14 04:17:17

#11

jord: Member; +2,382|6983|The North, beyond the wall.

Dilbert_X wrote:
If you don't mind the world population dropping by a factor of, say 10-100 over one or two generations, go ahead with letting global warming happen.

Not really, world has too many people as it is. 600 million less would be nice.

2008-11-14 06:27:32

#12

PureFodder: Member; +225|6590

Warhammer wrote:
Not just aids/cures, but all fields. I hate passing billions towards African AID relief programs as well. But I am getting across as a point if it should not be spent at all or put into all fields of science. Considering that global warming gives us better conditions than cold starvations, and it fluctuates and not man made.

a) Even in that research they say that mankind affects the climate significantly.
b) Global warming can give disasterous contitions, most of the regions around the equator will be wiped out as will the large number of low lying human settlements as land based ice sources melt. The rest will experience a wide range of unexpectedly changeing weather patterns which will cause widespread damage to local plants/animals that aren't adapted to the new conditions.
c) The costs that climate change could create vastly outweigh the money that we are putting into it.

2008-11-14 08:06:57

#13

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6970|NT, like Mick Dundee

PureFodder wrote:
Warhammer wrote:
Not just aids/cures, but all fields. I hate passing billions towards African AID relief programs as well. But I am getting across as a point if it should not be spent at all or put into all fields of science. Considering that global warming gives us better conditions than cold starvations, and it fluctuates and not man made.
a) Even in that research they say that mankind affects the climate significantly.
b) Global warming can give disasterous contitions, most of the regions around the equator will be wiped out as will the large number of low lying human settlements as land based ice sources melt. The rest will experience a wide range of unexpectedly changeing weather patterns which will cause widespread damage to local plants/animals that aren't adapted to the new conditions.
c) The costs that climate change could create vastly outweigh the money that we are putting into it.

How about we flip it around though.

I'll put it this way, how would Soviet Russia react to it?

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2008-11-14 08:10:52

#14

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6926|London, England

usmarine wrote:
fuck global warming.

Same, I don't even give a shit about that. There's not much we can do anyway, if it's not man made, then we really can't do anything, and even if it is, it's too late to do anything now.

We should still continue to go down the green path though, nothing wrong with trying to be less polluting and shit like that. Also fossil fuels = gay, getting sick and tired of these energy superpowers thinking they're so big. Need to get off that shit and stop relying on them.

2008-11-14 08:11:39

#15

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7066

Mekstizzle wrote:
usmarine wrote:
fuck global warming.
Same, I don't even give a shit about that. There's not much we can do anyway, if it's not man made, then we really can't do anything, and even if it is, it's too late to do anything now.

We should still continue to go down the green path though, nothing wrong with trying to be less polluting and shit like that. Also fossil fuels = gay, getting sick and tired of these energy superpowers thinking they're so big. Need to get off that shit and stop relying on them.

i agree.

manbearpig is full of shit. but screw teh arabs / russians also.

2008-11-14 08:13:33

#16

Schwarzelungen: drunklenglungen; +133|6601|Bloomington Indiana

usmarine wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
usmarine wrote:
fuck global warming.
Same, I don't even give a shit about that. There's not much we can do anyway, if it's not man made, then we really can't do anything, and even if it is, it's too late to do anything now.

We should still continue to go down the green path though, nothing wrong with trying to be less polluting and shit like that. Also fossil fuels = gay, getting sick and tired of these energy superpowers thinking they're so big. Need to get off that shit and stop relying on them.
i agree.

manbearpig is full of shit. but screw teh arabs / russians also.

our kids'll worry bout it for us

2008-11-14 08:15:07

#17

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7066

Schwarzelungen wrote:
our kids'll worry bout it for us

no they wont. they really dont now. ever see the amount of pollution or electronic waste (recycling) causes? we toss out cell phones at alarming rates.

2008-11-14 08:16:42

#18

Schwarzelungen: drunklenglungen; +133|6601|Bloomington Indiana

usmarine wrote:
Schwarzelungen wrote:
our kids'll worry bout it for us
no they wont. they really dont now. ever see the amount of pollution or electronic waste (recycling) causes? we toss out cell phones at alarming rates.

then id better die pretty quick so this whole catastrophe isnt on my head

2008-11-14 08:17:43

#19

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7066

Schwarzelungen wrote:
then id better die pretty quick so this whole catastrophe isnt on my head

man can stop it. nor do they really have any major affect on it. so not sure what you mean.

2008-11-14 08:20:02

#20

Schwarzelungen: drunklenglungen; +133|6601|Bloomington Indiana

usmarine wrote:
Schwarzelungen wrote:
then id better die pretty quick so this whole catastrophe isnt on my head
man can stop it. nor do they really have any major affect on it. so not sure what you mean.

nor do i. im hungover in my office at work *dont tell the boss*

anyway, yeah we can change and fix things....but how many people do you know are gonna go outta their way to play the recycle and get shit done game

2008-11-14 08:21:20

#21

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7066

well, i they showed on 60 minutes on sunday where recycling (electronic)(material from the US) is actually killing people in china. its a black market now.

so, your cell phone is most likely giving kids lead poisoning in china when you recycle it. yay!

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2008-11-14 08:23:35

#22

Schwarzelungen: drunklenglungen; +133|6601|Bloomington Indiana

usmarine wrote:
well, i they showed on 60 minutes on sunday where recycling (electronic)(material from the US) is actually killing people in china. its a black market now.

so, your cell phone is most likely giving kids lead poisoning in china when you recycle it. yay!

good thing i dont use text messaging and ive had the same cell phone for close to 3 years

2008-11-14 08:24:12

#23

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7066

you are missing the point. nvm

2008-11-14 08:25:43

#24

Schwarzelungen: drunklenglungen; +133|6601|Bloomington Indiana

usmarine wrote:
you are missing the point. nvm

sorry, im trying

i think i misread your post a few up....

wait...recycle more phones

Last edited by Schwarzelungen (2008-11-14 08:28:18)

2008-11-14 08:29:22

#25

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7066

are you being a smart ass?

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