The next time euros here say...

2008-11-11 19:19:34

#1

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6716|'Murka

...how "enlightened and progressive" Europe is and how backward the US is...go back and read these articles.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … id=topnews

http://www.spiegel.de/international/eur … 35,00.html

Then...SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2008-11-11 19:26:15

#2

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|6006|College Park, MD

Obviously those guys represent the whole of Europe.

Two wrongs (in this case, sweeping generalizations about the US and about Europe) don't make a right...

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/36793/marylandsig.jpg

2008-11-11 19:52:00

#3

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6970|NT, like Mick Dundee

We are enlightened and progressive, the USA is a cesspool inhabited by barely evolved monkies. So is Europe.

/thread

Spoiler (highlight to read):
AU>EU>US

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2008-11-11 19:54:46

#4

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|6003

FEOS wrote:
...how "enlightened and progressive" Europe is and how backward the US is...go back and read these articles.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … id=topnews

http://www.spiegel.de/international/eur … 35,00.html

Then...SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

Grow up.

2008-11-11 19:56:42

#5

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6457|what

One Austrian reporter, does not equal Europe.

And when Obama visited Germany, I don't think he was met with burning pitchforks...

https://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/ObamaGermany.jpg

2008-11-12 00:06:14

#6

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6628|New Haven, CT

TheAussieReaper wrote:
One Austrian reporter, does not equal Europe.

The Washington Post wrote:
a number of European lawmakers and journalists

Considering its also lawmakers, who are representatives of the people...

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-11-12 00:06:31)

2008-11-12 00:15:41

#7

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6411|eXtreme to the maX

One Austrian journalist doesn't represent Europe, and he's been slapped down already - as you will have seen in the article.
'Dumb bloke makes racist comment and is roundly condemned by his employer and his peers'

Is your point that there are very few racists in Europe and the few there are have their platforms pulled out from under them very quickly?
If so then good work!

Silvio Berlusconi made a joke, probably in reference to his own permatan (you know some people can laugh at themselves) the current incarnation of the Nazi party isn't too happy, and a newspaper published a cartoon indicating how much progress black americans have made.

Is that all you've got? Try harder FEOS.

Its hardly on a par with having widespread and open mandatory racial segregation within living memory.
How long ago were rednecks stringing up negroes for a laugh?

Now shut the fuck up yourself.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2008-11-12 00:23:03)

Fuck Israel

2008-11-12 00:20:41

#8

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6457|what

nukchebi0 wrote:
TheAussieReaper wrote:
One Austrian reporter, does not equal Europe.
The Washington Post wrote:
a number of European lawmakers and journalists
Considering its also lawmakers, who are representatives of the people...

The Spiegel Online site reported that the Austrian journalist was "Slammed For Racist Obama Rant"

The Washington post says A Polish lawmaker stood up in Parliament and called the election result "the end of the white man's civilization."

A. Just one.

It also reports that

"One of the milder gaffes came from Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. On Thursday, during a visit to Moscow, he praised Obama for being "young, handsome and even suntanned."

So the lawmakers who feels racist sentiment, are either mavericks (lol), or simply making gaffes.

Oh, and as for Berlusconi's comment?

Washington Post wrote:
Berlusconi's remark caused a stir in Italy, as critics chided him for sounding like a fool. But the prime minister was unrepentant. "What's the problem? It was a compliment," he told journalists the next day. Anyone who did not get the joke, he added, was an "imbecile."

The only one that comes close to Political, was

Washington Post wrote:
In Poland, the lower house of Parliament heard a similar interpretation of Obama's election from Artur Górski, a legislator from the Law and Justice party.

In a speech Wednesday, Górski called Obama "the black messiah of the new Left" and a "crypto-communist" who would undoubtedly prove a "disaster." He added: "Al-Qaeda is rubbing their hands with glee that the new president wants peace, not war."

"This marks the end of the white man's civilization," he said. "America will soon pay a high price for this quirk of democracy."

And guess what? The Polish government and Górski's party later apologized for the outburst. Górski did, too, but said his remarks were not racist, just "political."

So tell me, how this comes anywhere near to sentiment in Europe. You'll find fringe lunatics anywhere, thinking they are a voice of reason and that of majority and consent is just as crazy and ignorant.

2008-11-12 01:03:08

#9

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6628|New Haven, CT

Wouldn't one consider gaffes such as that derived from subconscious racism?

2008-11-12 01:10:50

#10

PureFodder: Member; +225|6590

Newsflash for FEOS, racism hasn't been 100% eradicated anywhere on Earth.

Look at the reactions to any of these incidents, they are all met with anger, shock and outrage and quickly lead to apologies and groveling. That's wat shows you the opinion of the vast majority.

2008-11-12 01:11:30

#11

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6860

FEOS wrote:
...and how backward the US is...

Somebody said what now? I'm pretty sure there are racists in both Europe and the US, and everywhere else for that matter...

'Nazi' Germany:

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/2700393390_8e9f0a3cfb.jpg?v=0

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3240/2698840187_7d44ed25b4.jpg?v=0

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2008-11-12 01:15:11

#12

HollisHurlbut: Member; +51|6302

TheAussieReaper wrote:
And when Obama visited Germany, I don't think he was met with burning pitchforks...

Of course not. The only part of a pitchfork that can burn is the handle, so if someone wanted to greet Obama with a burning pitchfork, they'd have no way to bring it with them.

2008-11-12 01:20:05

#13

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6926|London, England

No shit you guys aren't backwards anymore the reason everyone kept calling you guys backwards is because you were being run be religious neocon nutjobs who really were backwards, and only could've gotten into the government because you guys were backwards enough to vote them in, things have changed now. I don't think you'll be seeing anyone say the US is backwards anymore. Except maybe the Irish brothers on this forum

Also Europe will always be a more racist place than the Americas.

I'd also like to say, the US may not be a backwards country anymore, but FEOS, you still are.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2008-11-12 01:20:47)

2008-11-12 02:04:46

#14

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6628|New Haven, CT

Also Europe will always be a more racist place than the Americas.

Seriously?

2008-11-12 02:42:57

#15

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6716|'Murka

I see...so you guys don't like it when the entirety of Europe (or any individual country in Europe) gets painted with a single broad brush based on the comments or actions of certain representatives...even when those representatives are elected officials, voted in by your enlightened selves?

Welcome to the pool. The water's warm.

Apparently, the subtlety of the OP is lost on many of you in your attempt to defend yourselves. Understandable.

I don't for one second think that Europe is full of a bunch of racists. I fully realize that various European countries have their own internal issues they are still struggling with. And believe me when I say that I know for a fact that elected officials' comments (and at times policies) do not reflect on the population as a whole.

Some prominent European personalities made some stupid comments. And you felt that labeling all of Europe based on those comments was wrong. It happens all the time here, just rarely to euros.

Last edited by FEOS (2008-11-12 02:53:32)

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2008-11-12 02:46:24

#16

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6166

this is properly the most "epic failed" post in the history of this forum

PureFodder wrote:
Newsflash for FEOS, racism hasn't been 100% eradicated anywhere on Earth.

Look at the reactions to any of these incidents, they are all met with anger, shock and outrage and quickly lead to apologies and groveling. That's wat shows you the opinion of the vast majority.

2008-11-12 02:48:28

#17

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6716|'Murka

rammunition wrote:
this is properly the most "epic failed" post in the history of this forum

PureFodder wrote:
Newsflash for FEOS, racism hasn't been 100% eradicated anywhere on Earth.

Look at the reactions to any of these incidents, they are all met with anger, shock and outrage and quickly lead to apologies and groveling. That's wat shows you the opinion of the vast majority.

As compared to some of your whoppers?

I doubt it.

But then again, I wouldn't expect you to understand the point here. Like if you read the post RIGHT ABOVE YOURS, for instance.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2008-11-12 03:02:05

#18

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6860

FEOS wrote:
I see...so you guys don't like it when the entirety of Europe (or any individual country in Europe) gets painted with a single broad brush based on the comments or actions of certain representatives...even when those representatives are elected officials, voted in by your enlightened selves?

Welcome to the pool. The water's warm.

Apparently, the subtlety of the OP is lost on many of you in your attempt to defend yourselves. Understandable.

I don't for one second think that Europe is full of a bunch of racists. I fully realize that various European countries have their own internal issues they are still struggling with. And believe me when I say that I know for a fact that elected officials' comments (and at times policies) do not reflect on the population as a whole.

Some prominent European personalities made some stupid comments. And you felt that labeling all of Europe based on those comments was wrong. It happens all the time here, just rarely to euros.

I beat you to this thread topic by the way:

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=114001

I think FEOS that you think that we tar all Americans with the Neocon-brush. That is just simply not true in my case anyway. It would be an incredible generalisation to comment on 300m people as if they were one entity, much in the same way as it is ludicrous to comment on 1.3 billion Muslims as if the tiniest part is the whole.

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2008-11-12 03:27:44

#19

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6970|NT, like Mick Dundee

CameronPoe wrote:
much in the same way as it is ludicrous to comment on 1.3 billion Muslims as if the tiniest part is the whole.

But they really are all extremist terrorists with AKs hiding in the mountains of Afghanistan/Pakistan.

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2008-11-12 04:07:31

#20

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6411|eXtreme to the maX

FEOS wrote:
I see...so you guys don't like it when the entirety of Europe (or any individual country in Europe) gets painted with a single broad brush based on the comments or actions of certain representatives...even when those representatives are elected officials, voted in by your enlightened selves?

No-one here is defending this, blindly supporting them however stupid they or they policies are.
We don't have the 'My President right or wrong' indoctrination as part of our schooling.

Thats the difference.

Fuck Israel

2008-11-12 04:25:34

#21

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7066

hmmm....euros dont like it when you talk about europe and seem to respond like smart asses. hmmmm...

2008-11-12 04:31:48

#22

DonFck: Hibernator; +3,227|6936|Finland

usmarine wrote:
hmmm....euros dont like it when you talk about europe and seem to respond like smart asses. hmmmm...

Again, generalisation. Marine, have you heard a peep from E.g. little ol' moi?

I need around tree fiddy.

2008-11-12 04:32:45

#23

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6457|what

usmarine wrote:
hmmm....euros dont like it when you talk about europe and seem to respond like smart asses. hmmmm...

Funny, the first 4 four replies in this topic were harsh responses from 2 Americans and 2 Aussies.

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2008-11-12 05:52:47

#24

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6970|NT, like Mick Dundee

TheAussieReaper wrote:
usmarine wrote:
hmmm....euros dont like it when you talk about europe and seem to respond like smart asses. hmmmm...
Funny, the first 4 four replies in this topic were harsh responses from 2 Americans and 2 Aussies.

I was taking the piss tbh as I don't think anybody should ever make generalisations.

It's stupid and a easy and lazy way to form perspectives requiring little thought or analysis. We all roundly condemn it, and yet we all partake in it, be it intentional or unintentional. One of those instincts that is hard to break.

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2008-11-12 06:23:15

#25

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6595|Éire

How very objective of you FEOS to write off an entire continent on the views of one guy, who comes from the same country that gave the world Adolf Hitler.

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