I think your mentality is part of the problem. And you're right - life isn't fair, and as a consequence we must always seek to change it and hope that it becomes or seeks to be as fair and righteous as possible. We should always strive to point out the cunts and to admonish cuntish and underhand behaviour.usmarine wrote:
life aint fair. ow well.CameronPoe wrote:
At least you're being candid. For me, that sucks as a reason to fuck with other people. I'd prefer science and innovation to drive self sufficiency.usmarine wrote:
resources for survival. next
But without going so far as to actually do something about it. Just whine and moan. 'cause its effective.CameronPoe wrote:
I think your mentality is part of the problem. And you're right - life isn't fair, and as a consequence we must always seek to change it and hope that it becomes or seeks to be as fair and righteous as possible. We should always strive to point out the cunts and to admonish cuntish and underhand behaviour.usmarine wrote:
life aint fair. ow well.CameronPoe wrote:
At least you're being candid. For me, that sucks as a reason to fuck with other people. I'd prefer science and innovation to drive self sufficiency.
hence the point of the OP right? wasnt that far of a walk now was it Cam?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
But without going so far as to actually do something about it. Just whine and moan.CameronPoe wrote:
I think your mentality is part of the problem. And you're right - life isn't fair, and as a consequence we must always seek to change it and hope that it becomes or seeks to be as fair and righteous as possible. We should always strive to point out the cunts and to admonish cuntish and underhand behaviour.usmarine wrote:
life aint fair. ow well.
The zebra did something about it on 9/11... and they'll probably do more of that in the near future.usmarine wrote:
oh well. i bet zebra think lions are mean also. but at the end of the day the lion has to eat, and the zebra cant do anything about it.Turquoise wrote:
We defeated the evil empire only to become one ourselves.
At this point, we're just lucky that extremists aren't smart enough to target water supplies. It wouldn't take much to kill a lot more people than on 9/11 if they decided to poison reservoirs in some of our major cities.
All you can really do is make sure you are acting in a right and just manner yourself. Ultimately karma will bite the shitheads in the ass (e.g. Roman Empire, Nazi Empire, etc.).Flaming_Maniac wrote:
But without going so far as to actually do something about it. Just whine and moan. 'cause its effective.
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yes the got hold of a cub. now they run around from cave to cave. gjTurquoise wrote:
The zebra did something about it on 9/11... and they'll probably do more of that in the near future.usmarine wrote:
oh well. i bet zebra think lions are mean also. but at the end of the day the lion has to eat, and the zebra cant do anything about it.Turquoise wrote:
We defeated the evil empire only to become one ourselves.
Okay, you let karma try to work things out, I'll do it myself kthx.CameronPoe wrote:
All you can really do is make sure you are acting in a right and just manner yourself. Ultimately karma will bite the shitheads in the ass (e.g. Roman Empire, Nazi Empire, etc.).Flaming_Maniac wrote:
But without going so far as to actually do something about it. Just whine and moan. 'cause its effective.
Also, you realize the Roman Empire rules for nearly 1000 years and you would be speaking German if Hitler wasn't a tactical retard?
That is how I feel too, confirmed by the kinds of thoughts expressed by people such as usmarine, and knowing the greatness from which your nation sprung (I spent a week in Boston this summer doing the Freedom Trail, etc. - now there was a righteousness and a band of men to be proud of).Turquoise wrote:
We defeated the evil empire only to become one ourselves.
...who owned slaves and oppressed women. super duper menCameronPoe wrote:
now there was a righteousness and a band of men to be proud of.
and didn't want to pay their taxesusmarine wrote:
...who owned slaves and oppressed women. super duper menCameronPoe wrote:
now there was a righteousness and a band of men to be proud of.
Think about how much more reckless we'd become if another 9/11 occurred. We'd be even more paranoid and interventionist than before, and since Obama is as popular as he is, he could probably get away with invading something other than Iraq.usmarine wrote:
yes the got hold of a cub. now they run around from cave to cave. gjTurquoise wrote:
The zebra did something about it on 9/11... and they'll probably do more of that in the near future.usmarine wrote:
oh well. i bet zebra think lions are mean also. but at the end of the day the lion has to eat, and the zebra cant do anything about it.
The terrorists won on 9/11, because they tricked us into becoming reactionary idiots. A large portion of our society still suffers from this idiocy, and if we keep going in that direction, WW3 will result from it.
But you know... maybe it's time for that. Maybe it's time for us to fall, because we're too powerful for our own good.
I wouldn't be speaking German - I'd be in some form of a Europe-wide insurgency that would ultimately topple an overextended regime. If a neighbour becomes a significant threat then you must do what it takes to defend yourself. I don't argue with that. Frankly though I couldn't see Iraq preparing landing craft for Delaware beach any time soon....Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Okay, you let karma try to work things out, I'll do it myself kthx.
Also, you realize the Roman Empire rules for nearly 1000 years and you would be speaking German if Hitler wasn't a tactical retard?
lol....speak for yourself.Turquoise wrote:
Maybe it's time for us to fall, because we're too powerful for our own good.
...and along came Lincoln and the 19th amendment....usmarine wrote:
...who owned slaves and oppressed women. super duper menCameronPoe wrote:
now there was a righteousness and a band of men to be proud of.
Progress doesn't occur in one step - it doesn't go: caveman -> super-cyber-robot.
Thanks, but I think usmarine and flaming are right.CameronPoe wrote:
That is how I feel too, confirmed by the kinds of thoughts expressed by people such as usmarine, and knowing the greatness from which your nation sprung (I spent a week in Boston this summer doing the Freedom Trail, etc. - now there was a righteousness and a band of men to be proud of).Turquoise wrote:
We defeated the evil empire only to become one ourselves.
Our existence is only the result of people who decided they wanted to be independent of European oppressors, but right after we beat the English, we turned our own oppression toward the natives.
There really isn't much to be proud of about being American, or being human for that matter.
You would be mounting a Europe-wide protest that would subsequently be crushed Tienanmen Square style.CameronPoe wrote:
I wouldn't be speaking German - I'd be in some form of a Europe-wide insurgency that would ultimately topple an overextended regime. If a neighbour becomes a significant threat then you must do what it takes to defend yourself. I don't argue with that. Frankly though I couldn't see Iraq preparing landing craft for Delaware beach any time soon....Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Okay, you let karma try to work things out, I'll do it myself kthx.
Also, you realize the Roman Empire rules for nearly 1000 years and you would be speaking German if Hitler wasn't a tactical retard?
Might makes right. If you don't have any might, well that sucks but you can't do much about it. If you have power and throw it away by choice...well stop bitching about it.
It's funny that people are actually defending what amounts to imperialism. All I can say to that is: fuck you, imperialism is heinous, morally objectionable and worthy of cruel backlash and punishment.
What are you going to do about it?CameronPoe wrote:
It's funny that people are actually defending what amounts to imperialism. All I can say to that is: fuck you, imperialism is heinous, morally objectionable and worthy of cruel backlash and punishment.
Because that's the point of the thread. Not what you think is right, but doing something about what you think is right.
lol. Says the man with the poorly-thought-through OP on the 'death of reason' and how we will all live in harmony. That phrase alone is utter cockwater from a moral point of view.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Might makes right.
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the world wasnt created with those little lines we call borders.CameronPoe wrote:
It's funny that people are actually defending what amounts to imperialism. All I can say to that is: fuck you, imperialism is heinous, morally objectionable and worthy of cruel backlash and punishment.
There are things that can be done about it.... things that usually get you killed or hunted by the government.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
What are you going to do about it?CameronPoe wrote:
It's funny that people are actually defending what amounts to imperialism. All I can say to that is: fuck you, imperialism is heinous, morally objectionable and worthy of cruel backlash and punishment.
Because that's the point of the thread. Not what you think is right, but doing something about what you think is right.
Yeah - the borders have pretty much stabilised and are agreed upon internationally now. Or do you live in a 10,000BC timewarp?usmarine wrote:
the world wasnt created with those little lines we call borders.CameronPoe wrote:
It's funny that people are actually defending what amounts to imperialism. All I can say to that is: fuck you, imperialism is heinous, morally objectionable and worthy of cruel backlash and punishment.
1) You failed to understand the point where many others did. It certainly had nothing to do with living in harmony.CameronPoe wrote:
lol. Says the man with the poorly-thought-through OP on the 'death of reason' and how we will all live in harmony. That phrase alone is utter cockwater from a moral point of view.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Might makes right.
2) Stop trying to bring up irrelevant points in your apparent death throes.
3) No shit it sucks morally. The rest of us live in the real world however, where that is pretty much the only rule.
i bet russia would not agree with your first sentance. nor would most of africa.CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah - the borders have pretty much stabilised and are agreed upon internationally now. Or do you live in a 10,000BC timewarp?usmarine wrote:
the world wasnt created with those little lines we call borders.CameronPoe wrote:
It's funny that people are actually defending what amounts to imperialism. All I can say to that is: fuck you, imperialism is heinous, morally objectionable and worthy of cruel backlash and punishment.
Exactly, Nazi Germany's empire, if it succeeded, wouldn't have lasted for long at all. The USSR didn't last, it was a similar thing except it was successful in the beginning. The British Empire didn't last, China's holdings in Tibet and elsewhere won't last. These things just don't last. Especially not something like Nazi Germany, that for sure wouldn't have lasted.CameronPoe wrote:
I wouldn't be speaking German - I'd be in some form of a Europe-wide insurgency that would ultimately topple an overextended regime.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Okay, you let karma try to work things out, I'll do it myself kthx.
Also, you realize the Roman Empire rules for nearly 1000 years and you would be speaking German if Hitler wasn't a tactical retard?
Nazi Germany is the epitome of evil empire.
There would have been some seriously bad crushings and mass killings, but it wouldn't last. The only reason China is together is because it's dominated by Han Chinese. A large multi ethnic/language evil empire does not last. Fact.