Anyone who doesn't think that the extremely rich use their money and influence to change government policies so that they gain an unfair advantage hasn't been paying much attention in life.Reciprocity wrote:
you forgot "corporate welfare". oh yeah, that's a conservative thing.lowing wrote:
Don't look now Serge, we ain't in Europe.
Are you still thinking that a persons ambition drive motivation determination has nothing to do with their success? Of I forgot, as a liberal you use "real world" terminology, like "hope", "luck", "karma" amd destiny.
Oh yes, the Oprah effect.lowing wrote:
I am sorry, Warren Buffet is not a celebrity influencing millions of people to bow to his wishes. Oprah is. Oprah says read this book and over night it is a best seller. oprah says elect this president and presto!
brutal. I suppose Obama will toss her a cabinet position once she's broke from all his wealth spreading.
I think most of us are just relieved that Parah Salin isn't going anywhere near that White House.
They are forced t oseek cheaper labor because, like most Americans, we want out of this world salaries for not so out of this world work. For a company the bottom line IS profit, not worrying about how YOU are going t opay your bills. This why YOU ask the rich for work and not the poor.Varegg wrote:
You need to read up on how socialism is applied into politics today Spark ...
... and lowing ... how is the rich creating jobs in America today ? ... by downsizing their businesses and moving out of the country ? ... they are not creating more jobs inside the US as you seem to think ... the greed you display is what made this situation you now face, infact what we all face because of die hard capitalism going on unregulated ...
halleluja.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
I think most of us are just relieved that Parah Salin isn't going anywhere near that White House.
do not be surprised if she is offered a postitionReciprocity wrote:
Oh yes, the Oprah effect.lowing wrote:
I am sorry, Warren Buffet is not a celebrity influencing millions of people to bow to his wishes. Oprah is. Oprah says read this book and over night it is a best seller. oprah says elect this president and presto!
brutal. I suppose Obama will toss her a cabinet position once she's broke from all his wealth spreading.
So why are they downsizing when they already are making a profit, don't they see that throwing Americans into unemployment will come back and haunt them later ? ... oh yes, we have already reached that haven't we ?lowing wrote:
They are forced t oseek cheaper labor because, like most Americans, we want out of this world salaries for not so out of this world work. For a company the bottom line IS profit, not worrying about how YOU are going t opay your bills. This why YOU ask the rich for work and not the poor.Varegg wrote:
You need to read up on how socialism is applied into politics today Spark ...
... and lowing ... how is the rich creating jobs in America today ? ... by downsizing their businesses and moving out of the country ? ... they are not creating more jobs inside the US as you seem to think ... the greed you display is what made this situation you now face, infact what we all face because of die hard capitalism going on unregulated ...
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QFEMek-Stizzle wrote:
I think most of us are just relieved that Parah Salin isn't going anywhere near that White House.
Oh ya and this:
Agreed, but I have some faith that not all corporations do this...Well...a little faithPureFodder wrote:
Anyone who doesn't think that the extremely rich use their money and influence to change government policies so that they gain an unfair advantage hasn't been paying much attention in life.
Nature is a powerful force. Those who seek to subdue nature, never do so permanently.
We have? I haven't looked it up nor do I remember anyone talking about it, are there people outside wearing suits in a breadline that stretches around the corner in every town in America? I missed it.Varegg wrote:
So why are they downsizing when they already are making a profit, don't they see that throwing Americans into unemployment will come back and haunt them later ? ... oh yes, we have already reached that haven't we ?lowing wrote:
They are forced t oseek cheaper labor because, like most Americans, we want out of this world salaries for not so out of this world work. For a company the bottom line IS profit, not worrying about how YOU are going t opay your bills. This why YOU ask the rich for work and not the poor.Varegg wrote:
You need to read up on how socialism is applied into politics today Spark ...
... and lowing ... how is the rich creating jobs in America today ? ... by downsizing their businesses and moving out of the country ? ... they are not creating more jobs inside the US as you seem to think ... the greed you display is what made this situation you now face, infact what we all face because of die hard capitalism going on unregulated ...
The thing is about profit, there is never enough profit for the shareholders. Surprised? Maybe, just maybe, if the average American worker didn't expect his company to pay for his entire life for work that anyone could do, a company would not be forced to seek cheaper labor elsewhere.
Besides, the job does not belong to the individual, it belongs to the company. We are not a nation of entitlement yet
I rest my case ...
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omgg tell that against people who have 2 jobs and still can't pay the rent or sleeping a tentlowing wrote:
After watching the Obama victory I was very disappointed and proud at the same time. Disappointed that a socialist is now our president, but I could not help but feel proud of the great strides our country has made in equality and opportunity with the election of our first black president. It is a sad and great day.
good thing for the world and America it self. Why? because the difference in wealth (poor and rich) feed every crime,. even if you gonna compare it with Europa. Then Europa gives people more equal opportunity to have stable life and exploit them self.
Also the level of popularity is so much higher in Europa for Obama it already give a sense of security around the globe
if McCain was in Paris would they also have big crowd like Obama. and second thing his running mate palin is like crazy bitch..
Using religion to invade country;s
quote or better a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ypVSYo … -from.html
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and the system is prey to alot of people who should be getting a job instead of leeching on welfare. ALOT.Krysiss wrote:
omgg tell that against people who have 2 jobs and still can't pay the rent or sleeping a tent
good thing for the world and America it self. Why? because the difference in wealth (poor and rich) feed every crime,. even if you gonna compare it with Europa. Then Europa gives people more equal opportunity to have stable life and exploit them self.
And how many people here actually know the views on issues like economy, war in Iraq, healthcare etc of McCain? I can tell you now, next to none. Obama has enjoyed a huge amount of airtime in our media, which were widely supporting him. The only airtime McCain got was short, and negative. Mostly making fun of him.Krysiss wrote:
Also the level of popularity is so much higher in Europa for Obama it already give a sense of security around the globe
if McCain was in Paris would they also have big crowd like Obama. and second thing his running mate palin is like crazy bitch..
Yep, that so many people support Obama here has nothing to do with the amount of bias that we have. (Besides, we're Europeans. We shouldn't judge over who America elects as it's president.)
All I see when I look at Obama is ALOT of promises, which also contradict eachother too. cutting taxes and starting up a social healthcare program (??), getting the soldiers out of Iraq (as if it'd work, besides, IF that actually works they will all be re-deployed in Afghanistan probably.)
Don't mistake me for a McCain fan, I don't like either candidate.
inane little opines
Firstly, I have to say congratulations to America. I really didn't think there would be an African American President in my lifetime but yet again the USA has defied expectations and strode forward admirably; I just hope now that he can deliver on at least some of the promises upon which he has been elected, the rest of the world is definitely behind him at least.
Secondly, if Obama is going to simply take money from rich, high-earners and give it to poor people in the form of cheques then he is not practicing socialism... that type of Government is known as 'idiocy'. I still find it difficult to believe that he would pursue such an inherently flawed and retarded policy but we will get to see if he does now I guess.
Secondly, if Obama is going to simply take money from rich, high-earners and give it to poor people in the form of cheques then he is not practicing socialism... that type of Government is known as 'idiocy'. I still find it difficult to believe that he would pursue such an inherently flawed and retarded policy but we will get to see if he does now I guess.
Like Hallibuton, KBR etc?Lowing wrote:
Wanna take my money for no other reason than because you found someone who you think wants it more than I do? Yeah I got a problem.
Have they all moved their HQs to Dubai yet?
So Lowing, why don't you tell us why YOU are not a CEO of a Fortune 500 company, instead of a grease monkey?Lowing wrote:
Are you still thinking that a persons ambition drive motivation determination has nothing to do with their success? Of I forgot, as a liberal you use "real world" terminology, like "hope", "luck", "karma" amd destiny.
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Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!
...here in the US, they come closer to being synominous than elsewhere in the world.sergeriver wrote:
Liberal and socialist are not the same than communist, you know. This guy will take your taxes and he won't waste them on a WOT, he will fix domestic problems that were missed by GWB. Feel glad he won.
Jajajaja, are you fucking crazy? There is no other country in the world more capitalist than the US.imortal wrote:
...here in the US, they come closer to being synominous than elsewhere in the world.sergeriver wrote:
Liberal and socialist are not the same than communist, you know. This guy will take your taxes and he won't waste them on a WOT, he will fix domestic problems that were missed by GWB. Feel glad he won.
You're still scared of the Soviet Union and communism, and its hilarious.
Even the most "socialist" in the US is a rampant capitalist. You haven't seen socialism boy.
All the govt. has to do is not accept the bids. Period.Dilbert_X wrote:
Like Hallibuton, KBR etc?Lowing wrote:
Wanna take my money for no other reason than because you found someone who you think wants it more than I do? Yeah I got a problem.
Have they all moved their HQs to Dubai yet?So Lowing, why don't you tell us why YOU are not a CEO of a Fortune 500 company, instead of a grease monkey?Lowing wrote:
Are you still thinking that a persons ambition drive motivation determination has nothing to do with their success? Of I forgot, as a liberal you use "real world" terminology, like "hope", "luck", "karma" amd destiny.
I am not a CEO of a company because I did not strive for such ambitions. You have no idea what I do for a leaving or how detailed it is. However if you insist on calling me a grease monkey so be it. On behalf of all of us "grease monkeys" you are welcome for everytime you have flown uneventfully and safely. Do you wanna compare responsibilities there slick?
Welcome to the ,"help your fellow man, socialist dream" comrade lowing.
Nope what this election was about was nothing more than what can I get the govt. to do for me, that I do not have to do for myself. It was about how can I get the govt. to take care of me rather than me taking care of myself. For this Obama was the clear choice.JahManRed wrote:
Welcome to the ,"help your fellow man, socialist dream" comrade lowing.
I already help my "fellow man" I pay my taxes that fund all of the social programs.
This is really amusing. The people who are upset are those who are completely lost a grasp of what Obama is offering.
Congregated reps, business owners, and the like are scared because all they have been hearing is "Spread the Wealth around" and automatically assume it's a socialist agenda.
Seriously, get off your paranoid ill-informed ass and read up on what Obana is offering. Ten words doesn't entirely summarize what he plans to do in office.
These tax changes that have been said over, over, and over again are really going to be no different than what Bill Clinton offered.
Four years from now I 100% guarantee you'll be thinking, "Hey, it wasn't as bad as I thought."
Congregated reps, business owners, and the like are scared because all they have been hearing is "Spread the Wealth around" and automatically assume it's a socialist agenda.
Seriously, get off your paranoid ill-informed ass and read up on what Obana is offering. Ten words doesn't entirely summarize what he plans to do in office.
These tax changes that have been said over, over, and over again are really going to be no different than what Bill Clinton offered.
Four years from now I 100% guarantee you'll be thinking, "Hey, it wasn't as bad as I thought."
Stock market is acting the way I thought it would.
Communist scum!lowing wrote:
I already help my "fellow man" I pay my taxes that fund all of the social programs.
Even Iraq, Cam?CameronPoe wrote:
Like I said before 'Congratulations America'. American democracy today proved that anything is possible. From four or five decades ago where black people had to drink from their own designated fountains and sit in their assigned section of the bus to the election of a black president. It offers hope not just in America, but to everybody.
Malloy must go
You mean the same it has been for the last two weeks - one day up, next day down, with no discernible reason to it?CC-Marley wrote:
Stock market is acting the way I thought it would.
Well he said he'd withdraw, which is what the Iraqis are hoping for, so I guess yeah. We'll see if he keeps his word.deeznutz1245 wrote:
Even Iraq, Cam?CameronPoe wrote:
Like I said before 'Congratulations America'. American democracy today proved that anything is possible. From four or five decades ago where black people had to drink from their own designated fountains and sit in their assigned section of the bus to the election of a black president. It offers hope not just in America, but to everybody.
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