Sub £500 build...

2008-10-22 20:41:47

#1

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7032|Cambridge (UK)

A sub £500 PC for a mate:

Re-Jigged Specs HERE
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/5971/s … ildsg5.png

Any thoughts/comments/questions/alternates/stupidities (on my part)?

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-10-23 14:04:06)

2008-10-22 20:48:29

#2

bugz: Fission Mailed; +3,311|6579

Graphics card?

Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ebug122

2008-10-22 20:50:31

#3

Yellowman03: Once Again, We Meet at Last; +108|6502|Texas

ebug9 wrote:
Graphics card?

and operating system?

2008-10-22 20:57:10

#4

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7032|Cambridge (UK)

ebug9 wrote:
Graphics card?

On the mobo.

Yellowman03 wrote:
operating system?

Yup - spotted that - see edited OP.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-10-22 20:57:44)

2008-10-22 20:57:42

#5

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6974|67.222.138.85

I don't quite understand why someone needs THAT much storage on that kind of hardware?

2008-10-22 20:58:24

#6

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7032|Cambridge (UK)

Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I don't quite understand why someone needs THAT much storage on that kind of hardware?

It's to be a download machine - hence also the on board graphics.

2008-10-22 20:59:50

#7

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6974|67.222.138.85

So what is the reason for not just buying more hard drives for his current comp?

If it's for security reasons might want to factor in AV software as well, that's not cheap.

2008-10-22 21:07:44

#8

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7032|Cambridge (UK)

Flaming_Maniac wrote:
So what is the reason for not just buying more hard drives for his current comp?

If it's for security reasons might want to factor in AV software as well, that's not cheap.

1. It's for the same guy that I built the £3500 uber-PC for, so he's already got >3TB in his 'general use/gaming PC'.

2. He gets NAV and NIS free from BT.

2008-10-22 21:10:17

#9

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6464|Winland

If it's only for storage, that CPU is hard overkill. Go for E1200.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-10-22 21:23:31

#10

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7032|Cambridge (UK)

Freezer7Pro wrote:
If it's only for storage, that CPU is hard overkill. Go for E1200.

I am torn between them - I dunno - I'm just not sure I can bring myself to buy a CPU that a) has 'celeron' in its name and b) has less than 1MB cache... (for no good reasons)

2008-10-22 21:26:47

#11

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6789|...

Large amounts of storage is for naught if it is not redundant, are you just going to use one drive for back up? Otherwise maybe a raid1 set up.

Last edited by jsnipy (2008-10-22 21:27:04)

2008-10-22 21:29:15

#12

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7032|Cambridge (UK)

jsnipy wrote:
Large amounts of storage is for naught if it is not redundant, are you just going to use one drive for back up? Otherwise maybe a raid1 set up.

Budget, but yeah, if it were for me, I'd add £200 and, get 2 more 1TBs, and run em RAID5.

2008-10-22 22:08:34

#13

CrazeD: Member; +368|6939|Maine

Why do you need 4GB of RAM and 64-bit for a file server? And what's with the floppy drive? :p

2008-10-22 22:17:52

#14

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7032|Cambridge (UK)

CrazeD wrote:
Why do you need 4GB of RAM and 64-bit for a file server? And what's with the floppy drive? :p

1. I toyed with 2GB, but the mobo only takes 4GB max and RAM is cheap - so might as well.

2. Vista Home Basic OEM 64bit is the same price as Vista Home Basic OEM 32bit and it's a 64bit system.

3. I always include a floppy.

2008-10-22 22:38:29

#15

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6419|what

If it's just for downloading, fuck buying microsoft windows xp for a few hundred $, instead download for free ubuntu and burn it onto a cd. You can then install it really easily and get online very quickly. It will even take up less storage space than windows.

Security is great too. If your friend is only familiar with windows, download Ubuntu Mint, it's designed to be very similar in interface design to look like xp.

And it will come with firefox already installed.

2008-10-22 23:23:08

#16

TopHat01: Limitless; +117|6171|CA

^That, or just an XP Pro install. Home Basic = shit

Check out my YouTube channel

2008-10-23 00:26:00

#17

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6128

i built this PC for £540 from ebuyer 3 months ago

Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3 iP35 mobo
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepping (2.4GHz 1066MHz)
4GB OCZ DDR2 800MHz
Zotac 8800GT 512MB DDR3
500GB Hard Drive
Hp dvd-rw drive
620W coolermaster modular PSU
Vista Home Premium 64 bit

you can change a few things round, the CPU is a bit naff on your suggestion tbh

2008-10-23 12:57:57

#18

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7032|Cambridge (UK)

TopHat01 wrote:
Home Basic = shit

Actually, this is the one part I'm least sure about - in what ways is Home Basic, as you say, "shit"?

rammunition wrote:
the CPU is a bit naff on your suggestion tbh

It ain't being built for gaming. It's being built to sit, downloading, 24-7. It doesn't need to be fast, just reliable and energy efficient.

2008-10-23 13:15:54

#19

blah: macaroni with cheeseeee; +111|6014|Croatia

Rather put 2x 500GB drives and reduce the memory to 2GB max.You can download security from warez sites,no need to get into extra expenses.

2008-10-23 13:23:13

#20

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7032|Cambridge (UK)

blah wrote:
Rather put 2x 500GB drives and reduce the memory to 2GB max.You can download security from warez sites,no need to get into extra expenses.

Actually, if anything I'll increase the storage, not reduce it - 1TB + 0.5TB was one of the few 'minimal must haves' for this build.

In fact, re-jigged the build:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8543 … dv2na0.png

Now, can anyone give me a GOOD reason not to go with Vista Home Basic (I've not used it, so I'm not at all sure)?

In fact I can give me one good reason not to go with Vista Home Basic (well, actually, a mate told me), but anyway, it would appear Home (Basic or Premium) doesn't support the ability to remote desktop to the PC - which is required...

So, v3:

https://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2412/splunds2ndpcbuildv3xu2.png

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-10-23 21:22:25)

2008-10-24 08:49:53

#21

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6128

if its just mainly for downloads its cheaper and better to by a pre built computer.

i went down to my local staples the other day for a new desk and saw this computer in store for £400 with monitor

http://www.staples.co.uk/ENG/Catalog/ca … xedcode=WW

4GB ram
AMD Phenom 8450
500GB HD
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit

only for £365.95 without monitor

i would suggest its better to get this computer than build one, you can get a 1TB HDD and add it to the computer which would be more than enough for downloads

between this computer and your build, i have to go with the pre-built as its a bargain

Last edited by rammunition (2008-10-24 08:51:26)

2008-10-24 08:58:12

#22

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6464|Winland

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
blah wrote:
Rather put 2x 500GB drives and reduce the memory to 2GB max.You can download security from warez sites,no need to get into extra expenses.
Actually, if anything I'll increase the storage, not reduce it - 1TB + 0.5TB was one of the few 'minimal must haves' for this build.

In fact, re-jigged the build:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8543 … dv2na0.png

Now, can anyone give me a GOOD reason not to go with Vista Home Basic (I've not used it, so I'm not at all sure)?

In fact I can give me one good reason not to go with Vista Home Basic (well, actually, a mate told me), but anyway, it would appear Home (Basic or Premium) doesn't support the ability to remote desktop to the PC - which is required...

So, v3:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2412 … dv3xu2.png

What does that cost?

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-10-24 08:59:48

#23

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7032|Cambridge (UK)

Freezer7Pro wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
blah wrote:
Rather put 2x 500GB drives and reduce the memory to 2GB max.You can download security from warez sites,no need to get into extra expenses.
Actually, if anything I'll increase the storage, not reduce it - 1TB + 0.5TB was one of the few 'minimal must haves' for this build.

In fact, re-jigged the build:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8543 … dv2na0.png

Now, can anyone give me a GOOD reason not to go with Vista Home Basic (I've not used it, so I'm not at all sure)?

In fact I can give me one good reason not to go with Vista Home Basic (well, actually, a mate told me), but anyway, it would appear Home (Basic or Premium) doesn't support the ability to remote desktop to the PC - which is required...

So, v3:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2412 … dv3xu2.png
What does that cost?

<£500

2008-10-24 09:03:40

#24

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|6999|St. Andrews / Oslo

no need for the P182, get an Antec Solo instead - it's great.

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26774/flickricon.png

2008-10-24 09:13:16

#25

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7032|Cambridge (UK)

Jenspm wrote:
no need for the P182, get an Antec Solo instead - it's great.

Ah... well... you remember how I said that I knew how the P182 wouldn't take multiple GT280's without removal of the HDD bay... that'll that there P182... and it's for the same person... and he's already paid for it (the P182 that is)...

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-10-24 09:13:57)

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