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Source: The Independent

Withdrawal does not mean boost for Afghanistan, defence source reveals
Britain's war in Iraq will end by this time next year, a highly placed defence source said yesterday. But asked whether the pullout from Iraq would mean reinforcements being sent to combat a resurgent Taliban, the senior officer responded: "Emphatically no. We have already mortgaged the Iraq dividend by boosting our force in Afghanistan to 8,000. That is the limit."

Gordon Brown said two months ago there would be a "fundamental change of mission" in Iraq in 2009. Almost all the 4,100 troops will be out by autumn next year. A few hundred will remain to train Iraqi forces.

The effective end to British involvement in the conflict, with the loss so far of 176 service personnel, is possible because of a dramatic improvement in the security situation. Until recently the UK force faced more than a dozen rocket and mortar attacks a day in Basra. This has dwindled to "low to zero".

The supply of weapons and explosives from across the Iranian border has been significantly by British and Iraqi military operations and because, said the officer, "Iran does not want an unstable Iraq in the medium term". He added that the Iranians feel it would be a waste to risk men and materials on the British who are in the process of leaving.

US forces arrived in Basra at the beginning of 2008 to join Iraqi troops fighting Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army. American commanders will reinforce their presence in southern Iraq to protect supply routes as the British leave. However, the security situation is unravelling in Afghanistan, with the last three months producing rising numbers of casualties for Western forces. Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith, the British commander in the country, said the size of the force in Helmand needed to rise by 50 per cent.

"More soldiers would stabilise areas here that remain dangerous more quickly," he said. "We could easily consume another brigade in Helmand."

UK defence chiefs are adamant, however, that that the overstretch of forces, does not allow more troops to be sent to Afghanistan.
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CameronPoe
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A welcome development. It is interesting that the mission in the nation that should have been the only focus post-9/11 is faltering and nobody seems to give a shit about boosting numbers. Why on earth was all the focus and resources placed on Iraq?
jord
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Oh for fuck sake.
usmarine
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http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=112626&p=3

cant merge?  will be the same results as any other thread.
Mekstizzle
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jord wrote:

Oh for fuck sake.
Don't worry jord you'll still be able to party it up in Afghanistan
Varegg
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usmarine wrote:

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=112626&p=3

cant merge?  will be the same results as any other thread.
Nope, can't merge ... tends to leave both threads unreadable ... besides this is a slightly different story ...
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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

jord wrote:

Oh for fuck sake.
Don't worry jord you'll still be able to party it up in Afghanistan
Meh, he'll be freezing his bollocks off in Russia by then.
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jord
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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

jord wrote:

Oh for fuck sake.
Don't worry jord you'll still be able to party it up in Afghanistan
I wanted to do both
jord
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KILLSWITCH wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

jord wrote:

Oh for fuck sake.
Don't worry jord you'll still be able to party it up in Afghanistan
Meh, he'll be freezing his bollocks off in Russia by then.
By April 09?
The_Guardsman
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wrote:

Withdrawal does not mean boost for Afghanistan, defence source reveals
Yer thats aload of tosh! Of course they will go to Afganistan, besides the new Chief of the Armed forces wants to send more bods out there.
usmarine
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The_Guardsman wrote:

wrote:

Withdrawal does not mean boost for Afghanistan, defence source reveals
Yer thats aload of tosh! Of course they will go to Afganistan, besides the new Chief of the Armed forces wants to send more bods out there.
yep.  article is shit.  media bollocks as usual.
IG-Calibre
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probably going to have to re-deploy back here in the north again soon, the way things are going, or, not going as the case is. Slowly another  power sharing executive grinds to a halt in the failed northern Irish state..
jord
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IG-Calibre wrote:

probably going to have to re-deploy back here in the north again soon, the way things are going, or, not going as the case is. Slowly another  power sharing executive grinds to a halt in the failed northern Irish state..
I'll be mobilising my youtube army to combat the armchair IRA. It's gonna be tough, but I got the e equipment my internet army needs to win on youtube, bf2s AND Liveleak. Take that, Armchair IRA.
usmarine
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IG-Calibre wrote:

probably going to have to re-deploy back here in the north again soon, the way things are going, or, not going as the case is. Slowly another  power sharing executive grinds to a halt in the failed northern Irish state..
wtf are you on about?
God Save the Queen
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North ireland a failed state?  Thats a bit of a claim.  N Ireland is like somalia and afghanistan?
ATG
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CameronPoe wrote:

Why on earth was all the focus and resources placed on Iraq?
When all else fails, look @ the obvious. Oil.
Also, I have come to believe that fear, uncertainty and chaos is part of 'Merican sop.
usmarine
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ATG wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Why on earth was all the focus and resources placed on Iraq?
When all else fails, look @ the obvious. Oil.
lol...wtf.  got proof of that?
Dilbert_X
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Varegg wrote:

Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith, the British commander in the country, said the size of the force in Helmand needed to rise by 50 per cent.

"More soldiers would stabilise areas here that remain dangerous more quickly," he said. "We could easily consume another brigade in Helmand."
Yay its Vietnam all over again.
Fuck Israel
IG-Calibre
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usmarine wrote:

wtf are you on about?
Operation banner? the longest deployment of British forces? came to Ulster for a couple of weeks and ended up staying on the streets for 28 years? i've made an observation on how given the way things are going here politically - as in Nothing is happening now going on 4 months because Protestant / Loyalists are not interested in sharing power and not completing devolution as agreed in the Good Friday / Belfast agreement and further St Andrews agreement, well history teaches us that political vacuums usually fill with violence & that is what brought the Brits to our streets in the first place.

God Save the Queen wrote:

North Ireland a failed state?  That's a bit of a claim.  N Ireland is like somalia and afghanistan?
you are familiar with the recent history of Northern Ireland? all the killing and violence? Well (imo) the current mandatory coalition government which is supposedly in power at the minute, is going to fail like every government here that has preceded it since partition of the island. Because? There are a majority within Protestant Loyalism that will not share power with Catholics - never have, never will.  Every department has an junior minister from the opposite sectarian divide who has to agree with any decisions taken by the minister in charge of the department. It just means the whole system grinds to a hault because of the power of veto, it's not going to work, it's going to fail.

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