BF2S Forums 'South Park' vs. Lucas and Spielberg: Too far?

I'm man enough to admit I got a boner when Indy was being raped.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

jord wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

But it may become extremely unfunny.

If it did it would lose ratings and die.

It will be going along with Simpsons for a long time.

It will always win over the 12 year olds that are completely enthralled by ball and dick jokes.

South Park isn't really 12 year old humour, though I admit when I was 12 I did still find it funny.

Different people with different sense of humour, no need to rip on people for that.

usmarine wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

It will always win over the 12 year olds that are completely enthralled by ball and dick jokes.

oooo sorry sir.  I liked it at 21 and still like it at 32.  i suppose being in a video game clan is uber mature also rite?

i like you.

I like South Park more so the logic and creativity that goes with in stepping above and beyond comedy.
You just can't predict South Park or any good cartoon/Tv series that's been around for that long.
Most people here will or should be interested how South Park is going to portray the upcoming elections with Obama and McCain.

As for this episode, it did catch me off a little surprised.  Not so much as that their point was being made about how Indiana Jones was butchered but how they portrayed them as metaphorical rapists to actually convicting Lucas and Spielberg as real rapists.  Which was funny.  Not that rape is funny though...

I and most people were disappointed with the new movie for the Indiana Jones series.  The only thing that I really liked about the movie was how they factored in some history around those times in the 50's and having easter eggs that tie back into the other movies.  Other than that it was garbage.

Apparently Russians had broken guns or they just couldn't shoot for shit in the 50's.
Laws of physics didn't apply.  IE Nuclear Bomb, Cars Crashing, Instant devouring Fire Ants?
Aliens... Enough said.

With this movie the series went from Good History(sub Fiction)/Action to Sci-Fi/History/Bad Action.

Last edited by Icleos (2008-10-12 10:41:26)

Thanks for the karma, don't know what a lowbrow is though...

Icleos wrote:

I like South Park more so the logic and creativity that goes with in stepping above and beyond comedy.
You just can't predict South Park or any good cartoon/Tv series that's been around for that long.
Most people here will or should be interested how South Park is going to portray the upcoming elections with Obama and McCain.

As for this episode, it did catch me off a little surprised.  Not so much as that their point was being made about how Indiana Jones was butchered but how they portrayed them as metaphorical rapists to actually convicting Lucas and Spielberg as real rapists.  Which was funny.  Not that rape is funny though...

I and most people were disappointed with the new movie for the Indiana Jones series.  The only thing that I really liked about the movie was how they factored in some history around those times in the 50's and having easter eggs that tie back into the other movies.  Other than that it was garbage.

Apparently Russians had broken guns or they just couldn't shoot for shit in the 50's.
Laws of physics didn't apply.  IE Nuclear Bomb, Cars Crashing, Instant devouring Fire Ants?
Aliens... Enough said.

With this movie the series went from Good History(sub Fiction)/Action to Sci-Fi/History/Bad Action.

I completely agree. 

Lucas did the same for Star Wars, too.  I blame it on all the computer generated shit.  I mean, Star Destroyers from the 1970's looked more real than they did from 2004.... because the ones from 2004 were fake, the ones from 1970's were actually real models used with lighting and trick photography, etc.

The new Indiana Jones/Star Wars were created simply to make as much money using as little creativity as possible.  A lot of people my age and even people who were around when the originals came out won't know the difference, because they're really just consumers.  No appreciation for quality film making. 

/rant

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Well the thing I've always liked South Park for is it's combination of low brow toilet humor and high brow satire. The low brow part in this one was obviously Butters shooting people in the dick, and the high brow was their criticism of both nativist attitudes/stereotypes, and their attack on Lucas and Spielberg for messing with the movies.

And FM, SP actually has less toilet humor now than it used to. Go watch the earliest episodes and some more recent ones, there's allot more satire in the newer ones.

I've watched all of it.

I know it used to have more...but it still has plenty to classify itself as tasteless i.e. biggest shit in the world, nuke in Hillary's vagina, gay men and hampsters...I mean really, it's funny but it's not classy.

The problem I have is the satire has gone to shit. Seasons say 6-11 had a lot of funny social commentary, probably peaking at season 10, but this latest season has been really disappointing. In more than half the episodes the satire has been bad and the lowbrow has been mediocre at best. Give me manbearpig and a bunny pope.

Varegg wrote:

Humor is individual ... it's nobodys task to rate what others find funny ...

Lots of people say that...and yet there are whole professions dedicated to telling people what is quality and what is not in subjective fields.

Varegg wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Humor is individual ... it's nobodys task to rate what others find funny ...

Lots of people say that...and yet there are whole professions dedicated to telling people what is quality and what is not in subjective fields.

You can make an advice but people must find out for themselves if they think it is funny or not ... you waste your time thinking otherwise ...

No you're wasting your time if you are reading other people's opinions to media, whilst knowing that those opinions will not influence your actions regarding that media.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Lots of people say that...and yet there are whole professions dedicated to telling people what is quality and what is not in subjective fields.

You can make an advice but people must find out for themselves if they think it is funny or not ... you waste your time thinking otherwise ...

No you're wasting your time if you are reading other people's opinions to media, whilst knowing that those opinions will not influence your actions regarding that media.

So you base your opinion on what other people write on a subject rather than forming an opinion yourself ?

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

No you're wasting your time if you are reading other people's opinions to media, whilst knowing that those opinions will not influence your actions regarding that media.

So you base your opinion on what other people write on a subject rather than forming an opinion yourself ?

If every single review I read says something is shit, I'm not going to waste my time most likely. If this keeps up, I probably won't watch season 13 unless people say it's the best thing to hit television in years.

Kinda why i wrote this

Varegg wrote:

You can make an advice but people must find out for themselves if they think it is funny or not ... you waste your time thinking otherwise ...

South Park would be a much better show if they toned down the immature humor a bit - still risque, but not the level of crudity it has currently. The sophomoric jokes detract from the satirical value of the episodes, I think. Classics such as The Losing Edge had noting overtly sexual or anything of that ilk, but still managed to leave me truly astounded at the quality of the show's humor. Maybe they make more money appealing to 12 years olds, but for me, the excessive use of this humor compromises the potential of the many of the episodes.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-10-14 01:03:28)

Bertster7 wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

Classics such as The Losing Edge had noting overtly sexual or anything of that ilk, but still managed to leave me truly astounded at the quality of the show's humor..

Are you joking? The Losing Edge was one of the owrst Southpark episodes ever.

It´s defintly the best one together with the day before the day after tomorrow imo. Agree with Nuk would be nice to see them making more of that stuff.

Last edited by madmurre (2008-10-14 11:04:58)