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2008-10-13 10:35:50
DesertFox-
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The figure seems to be greatly exaggerated. The Holocaust page on Wikipedia lists the total deaths of that event as in the range of 8 million, and there's no mention of Catholics on the list either, so they're probably grouped into one of the small categories with others.

I found no mention of Catholics being killed en masse by the Nazis beyond a couple cases of priests in concentration camps, the largest number of those being 2,500. Surely they weren't free from persecution and I'm sure many thousands perished, but the numbers don't compare to those of the Jewish victims.
2008-10-13 11:49:49
Mekstizzle
WALKER
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OrangeHound wrote:

Hmmm ... that isn't consistent with my understanding.  I know that there were many Catholic Priests in the concentration camps, due to their opposition to the Nazis ... but, four million Catholics?  That seems high to me.
What you're doing is effectively holocause denial

My opinion. Fuck Jews. Fuck them all. There were so many other groups that were killed by the fucking Nazi's, yet everyone cares about the Jews. Well, not me. Fuck Jews, I care about everyone else.

Nobody is fucking more special than me by some fucking God.

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2008-10-13 11:52:08
Poseidon
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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

Hmmm ... that isn't consistent with my understanding.  I know that there were many Catholic Priests in the concentration camps, due to their opposition to the Nazis ... but, four million Catholics?  That seems high to me.
What you're doing is effectively holocause denial

My opinion. Fuck Jews. Fuck them all. There were so many other groups that were killed by the fucking Nazi's, yet everyone cares about the Jews. Well, not me. Fuck Jews, I care about everyone else.

Nobody is fucking more special than me by some fucking God.
I can't really even tell if you're serious or not.

If so, that's just sad, Mek.
2008-10-13 11:52:22
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

Hmmm ... that isn't consistent with my understanding.  I know that there were many Catholic Priests in the concentration camps, due to their opposition to the Nazis ... but, four million Catholics?  That seems high to me.
What you're doing is effectively holocause denial

My opinion. Fuck Jews. Fuck them all. There were so many other groups that were killed by the fucking Nazi's, yet everyone cares about the Jews. Well, not me. Fuck Jews, I care about everyone else.

Nobody is fucking more special than me by some fucking God.
You hear that Poseidon?

Skittles, stop being anti-semetic
2008-10-13 12:06:55
Mekstizzle
WALKER
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Soz

I've been out drinking
2008-10-13 12:31:42
13rin
Member
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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Soz

I've been out drinking
Isn't that what Mel Gibson said?
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2008-10-13 12:41:30
lowing
Banned
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Braddock wrote:

I always knew that lots and lots (and lots) of people were killed during WW2 but, according to the often dubious Wikipedia, apparently 4 million Catholics were systematically killed by the Nazis... that's not too far (relatively speaking) behind the Jews tally of 6 million.

Why is it that it only ever seems to be the Jewish community that gets sympathy for these atrocities? I can't recall having even heard of the existence of a Catholic Holocaust museum... is there one?

NOTE: Neo-Nazis can fuck off out of this thread, I'm not interested in bashing the Jewish community... I just want to seriously discuss how society can so easily forget these other groups of victims.
I dunno how many Catholic Death camps were there?
2008-10-13 12:45:46
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
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lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

I always knew that lots and lots (and lots) of people were killed during WW2 but, according to the often dubious Wikipedia, apparently 4 million Catholics were systematically killed by the Nazis... that's not too far (relatively speaking) behind the Jews tally of 6 million.

Why is it that it only ever seems to be the Jewish community that gets sympathy for these atrocities? I can't recall having even heard of the existence of a Catholic Holocaust museum... is there one?

NOTE: Neo-Nazis can fuck off out of this thread, I'm not interested in bashing the Jewish community... I just want to seriously discuss how society can so easily forget these other groups of victims.
I dunno how many Catholic Death camps were there?
How many jewish extermination camps were there?

As far as i know they were just extermination camps.  If you were not a certain breed in you went.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
2008-10-13 12:46:16
san4
The Mas
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the internet wrote:

In the eastern European regions, millions of Poles -- Jews and Catholics alike -- were murdered by the SS and police personnel in the field or in killing centers such as Auschwitz-Birkenau and Treblinka. In the ideology of the Nazis, the Poles were considered an inferior "race." The Germans intended to murder members of the political, cultural and military elite and reduce the remainder of the Polish population to the status of a vast pool of labor for the so-called German master race. It is estimated that between 5 and 5.5 million Polish civilians, including 3 million Polish Jews, died or were killed under Nazi occupation.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Cath … _Holocaust
According to this wiki answers page, many of the Catholics killed by the Nazis were Poles and they were not killed because they were Catholic.
2008-10-13 12:49:02
13rin
Member
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san4 wrote:

the internet wrote:

In the eastern European regions, millions of Poles -- Jews and Catholics alike -- were murdered by the SS and police personnel in the field or in killing centers such as Auschwitz-Birkenau and Treblinka. In the ideology of the Nazis, the Poles were considered an inferior "race." The Germans intended to murder members of the political, cultural and military elite and reduce the remainder of the Polish population to the status of a vast pool of labor for the so-called German master race. It is estimated that between 5 and 5.5 million Polish civilians, including 3 million Polish Jews, died or were killed under Nazi occupation.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Cath … _Holocaust
According to this wiki answers page, many of the Catholics killed by the Nazis were Poles and they were not killed because they were Catholic.
Oh. Well in that case...  What was that like a two birds one stone deal for Hitler?
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2008-10-13 12:55:02
Mekstizzle
WALKER
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Maybe I sounded a little extreme, but I really don't like how everyone always talks about the Holocaust like it was a Jews-only thing. And I hate how Jews are special for everything. Like how being against them isn't just "racist" like it would be for any other group of people, but it's "anti-Semitic" and shit like that. It just gets to you after a while. I dislike the whole "holier than thou" shit that they preach. Maybe if they really are more special than other people, that it's not so bad if everyone hates them because they'll all be next to God when they depart the planet.

But, of course, not, they're just human beings. Like you and me.
2008-10-13 12:56:18
presidentsheep
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

san4 wrote:

the internet wrote:

In the eastern European regions, millions of Poles -- Jews and Catholics alike -- were murdered by the SS and police personnel in the field or in killing centers such as Auschwitz-Birkenau and Treblinka. In the ideology of the Nazis, the Poles were considered an inferior "race." The Germans intended to murder members of the political, cultural and military elite and reduce the remainder of the Polish population to the status of a vast pool of labor for the so-called German master race. It is estimated that between 5 and 5.5 million Polish civilians, including 3 million Polish Jews, died or were killed under Nazi occupation.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Cath … _Holocaust
According to this wiki answers page, many of the Catholics killed by the Nazis were Poles and they were not killed because they were Catholic.
Oh. Well in that case...  What was that like a two birds one stone deal for Hitler?
What about the Reichskonkordat?? Stuff like that would have protected catholic priests for the early parts of the war.... If this many Catholics were killed it would have been for being Poles rather than Catholic. As far as I know only Jews and Jehovas witnesses were targetted for their religion.

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2008-10-13 12:57:14
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Maybe I sounded a little extreme, but I really don't like how everyone always talks about the Holocaust like it was a Jews-only thing. And I hate how Jews are special for everything. Like how being against them isn't just "racist" like it would be for any other group of people, but it's "anti-Semitic" and shit like that. It just gets to you after a while. I dislike the whole "holier than thou" shit that they preach. Maybe if they really are more special than other people, that it's not so bad if everyone hates them because they'll all be next to God when they depart the planet.

But, of course, not, they're just human beings. Like you and me.
I've never seen anyone mention the holocaust like it was a Jews-only thing. Everyone knows that there were other groups targeted, but the Jews were the MAIN group. THEY were the ones who were specifically targeted.
2008-10-13 13:00:35
13rin
Member
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presidentsheep wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

san4 wrote:


According to this wiki answers page, many of the Catholics killed by the Nazis were Poles and they were not killed because they were Catholic.
Oh. Well in that case...  What was that like a two birds one stone deal for Hitler?
What about the Reichskonkordat?? Stuff like that would have protected catholic priests for the early parts of the war.... If this many Catholics were killed it would have been for being Poles rather than Catholic. As far as I know only Jews and Jehovas witnesses were targetted for their religion.
And retards.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2008-10-13 13:09:51
presidentsheep
Back to the Fuhrer
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

presidentsheep wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:


Oh. Well in that case...  What was that like a two birds one stone deal for Hitler?
What about the Reichskonkordat?? Stuff like that would have protected catholic priests for the early parts of the war.... If this many Catholics were killed it would have been for being Poles rather than Catholic. As far as I know only Jews and Jehovas witnesses were targetted for their religion.
And retards.
The Church of Retardation ftw.
I'd be the fucking pope.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
2008-10-13 13:42:54
san4
The Mas
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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Maybe I sounded a little extreme, but I really don't like how everyone always talks about the Holocaust like it was a Jews-only thing. And I hate how Jews are special for everything. Like how being against them isn't just "racist" like it would be for any other group of people, but it's "anti-Semitic" and shit like that. It just gets to you after a while. I dislike the whole "holier than thou" shit that they preach. Maybe if they really are more special than other people, that it's not so bad if everyone hates them because they'll all be next to God when they depart the planet.

But, of course, not, they're just human beings. Like you and me.
Ausch88--is that you? I thought you were banned.
2008-10-13 13:44:28
.Sup
be nice
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san4 wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Maybe I sounded a little extreme, but I really don't like how everyone always talks about the Holocaust like it was a Jews-only thing. And I hate how Jews are special for everything. Like how being against them isn't just "racist" like it would be for any other group of people, but it's "anti-Semitic" and shit like that. It just gets to you after a while. I dislike the whole "holier than thou" shit that they preach. Maybe if they really are more special than other people, that it's not so bad if everyone hates them because they'll all be next to God when they depart the planet.

But, of course, not, they're just human beings. Like you and me.
Ausch88--is that you? I thought you were banned.
Nah thats his brotha
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2008-10-13 14:04:37
mcjagdflieger
Champion of Dueling Rectums
+26|6616|South Jersey
And yet at the same time Stalin put to death what was it, ~60 million of his own people? Yea I always thought it was a tad fucked up no one was cryin for the Ruskies.  And to think everyone laughed when the likes of Adolf Galland and other brilliant german service members told the allies they would help us fight the russians and we should team up. Yea, we coulda by-passed that entire cold war thing, but seeing as how we were so selective as to what bad guys we choose to pursue. ah you know what, fuck it, ya'll come up with some bullshit excuse anyway.
2008-10-13 14:12:24
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6926|London, England
I don't see how I'm a Nazi just for saying that Jews are no better than any other group of people out there. If I went and said "My race is better than Jews, Jews are inferior people and should all die" than yes, call me a fucking Nazi and ban me. All I'm saying is, I don't like the special treatment they get.
2008-10-13 14:29:09
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6805|so randum
If that figure is true, a majority of it would have been down as political prisoners/enemies of the state etc etc, or families that had fallen out of favour.

I spent a fair while in Berlin, and IIRC i saw a memorial to the murdered peoples of no clear reason or something.


The museum to the murdered jews is quite something though, definatley worth seeing.
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2008-10-13 15:01:37
lowing
Banned
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m3thod wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

I always knew that lots and lots (and lots) of people were killed during WW2 but, according to the often dubious Wikipedia, apparently 4 million Catholics were systematically killed by the Nazis... that's not too far (relatively speaking) behind the Jews tally of 6 million.

Why is it that it only ever seems to be the Jewish community that gets sympathy for these atrocities? I can't recall having even heard of the existence of a Catholic Holocaust museum... is there one?

NOTE: Neo-Nazis can fuck off out of this thread, I'm not interested in bashing the Jewish community... I just want to seriously discuss how society can so easily forget these other groups of victims.
I dunno how many Catholic Death camps were there?
How many jewish extermination camps were there?

As far as i know they were just extermination camps.  If you were not a certain breed in you went.
you get partial credit


http://frank.mtsu.edu/~baustin/holocamp.html


but you gotta admit, it was the Jews that were singled out for the "final solution"

Last edited by lowing (2008-10-13 15:03:24)

2008-10-13 15:02:51
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
+3,097|6795|Gogledd Cymru

Skittles is probably the most racist person I know, I'm not surprised he wrote what he did in this topic.
2008-10-13 15:06:34
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6805|so randum

The Sheriff wrote:

Skittles is probably the most racist person I know, I'm not surprised he wrote what he did in this topic.
Same, he was telling me about this guy he stabbed to death because he had (and i quote) "slanty eyes"
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2008-10-13 15:07:45
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
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FatherTed wrote:

The Sheriff wrote:

Skittles is probably the most racist person I know, I'm not surprised he wrote what he did in this topic.
Same, he was telling me about this guy he stabbed to death because he had (and i quote) "slanty eyes"
God damn.

I thought he only tortured minorities, I didn't know he murdered them too
2008-10-13 15:25:08
Home
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It is weird that we focus so much on the Jewish side of the Holocaust, though. In school we've studied that at least 6 times, read Anne Frank in one class, went to Anne Frank the play in another class, read Elie Wiesel's book, etc. We've never talked about the other kinds of victims, besides the mention that "Oh yeah, he killed gypsies too."

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