http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/fanniemae.asp
McCain has exactly a snowballs chance in hell of becoming president.
McCain has exactly a snowballs chance in hell of becoming president.
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lol snopes.
i think their biggest point was obama received a shit ton of money from fannie......way more than mccain.
i think their biggest point was obama received a shit ton of money from fannie......way more than mccain.
These people are the masters of making someone look like whatever they want someone to look like. Don't write them off just yet. There's still plenty of time and plenty of things to turn Obama into before the 4th of November (or whenver you guys vote)
are you guys blind? their example is an email and their sources are from months before this whole mess. jesus atg.
Er um.. that's exactly what they said.. It was the Washington post that said he was advising Obama's campaign.Raines has had some dealings with the Obama campaign
The Johnson connection is indisputable.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/12 … -johnson12
They should have started the FBI instigation a decade ago. They'de be tossing salads for smokes right now instead of advising the Democratic candidate for president.
Main Hope? I find that hard to believe considering they, the candidates themselves, have rarely mentioned it. What they have focused on is the Democrats blocking the attempts to regulate Fannie/Freddie. Which is also indisputable.ATG wrote:
Republicans main hope for defeating Obama debunked on Snopes
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Because the Republicans are all about tight regulation in the financial markets?Kmarion wrote:
Main Hope? I find that hard to believe considering they, the candidates themselves, have rarely mentioned it. What they have focused on is the Democrats blocking the attempts to regulate Fannie/Freddie. Which is also indisputable.ATG wrote:
Republicans main hope for defeating Obama debunked on Snopes
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/busin … ref=slogin
Oops.
I love it when someone starts their rebuttal with the word "because". It's almost as if to say, "I know you didn't say this, but this is what I'm going to try and make it look like you were saying". Luckily you followed it up "oops". Otherwise you would have came off as weak and immature.
I was actually going to add that the GOP has also got deregulation stamped on their ass. But I assumed some foreigner would come in here and tell me how it really is.
Something I know you have seen from me:
At least McCain has been outspoken.
Do you want to compare fallouts? Do you want to look and see who was the benefactor of said fallouts and the resulting biggest bailout in human history? Naaaaah, just keep putting words in my mouth.
I was actually going to add that the GOP has also got deregulation stamped on their ass. But I assumed some foreigner would come in here and tell me how it really is.
Something I know you have seen from me:
http://www.newsday.com/services/newspap … 9339.storyKmarion wrote:
No fucking way am I giving them a complete pass. The republicans have also got deregulation stamped on their ass.
At least McCain has been outspoken.
Do you want to compare fallouts? Do you want to look and see who was the benefactor of said fallouts and the resulting biggest bailout in human history? Naaaaah, just keep putting words in my mouth.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
aND WHOM HAD THE MAJORITY IN 2004 WHEN mCcaIN BILL WAS INTRODUCED?Kmarion wrote:
Er um.. that's exactly what they said.. It was the Washington post that said he was advising Obama's campaign.Raines has had some dealings with the Obama campaign
The Johnson connection is indisputable.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/12 … -johnson12
They should have started the FBI instigation a decade ago. They'de be tossing salads for smokes right now instead of advising the Democratic candidate for president.Main Hope? I find that hard to believe considering they, the candidates themselves, have rarely mentioned it. What they have focused on is the Democrats blocking the attempts to regulate Fannie/Freddie. Which is also indisputable.ATG wrote:
Republicans main hope for defeating Obama debunked on Snopes
Jesus .. how many times do I have to explain this? The Bill didn't officially die until 2007. The Dems kept it hung up in the committee using what is called a filibuster. The republicans didn't have everyone on board, but they did have most. You need 60 votes to break a filibuster, and neither party had it. Learn about how government works before you start telling us why it isn't working.ATG wrote:
aND WHOM HAD THE MAJORITY IN 2004 WHEN mCcaIN BILL WAS INTRODUCED?Kmarion wrote:
Er um.. that's exactly what they said.. It was the Washington post that said he was advising Obama's campaign.Raines has had some dealings with the Obama campaign
The Johnson connection is indisputable.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/12 … -johnson12
They should have started the FBI instigation a decade ago. They'de be tossing salads for smokes right now instead of advising the Democratic candidate for president.Main Hope? I find that hard to believe considering they, the candidates themselves, have rarely mentioned it. What they have focused on is the Democrats blocking the attempts to regulate Fannie/Freddie. Which is also indisputable.ATG wrote:
Republicans main hope for defeating Obama debunked on Snopes
http://bensguide.gpo.gov/
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Calm down there. I meant that the Republicans can't use the democrats crappy regulations and oversights of the financial sector as an angle against the Democrats as they were doing the same thing themselves.Kmarion wrote:
I love it when someone starts their rebuttal with the word "because". It's almost as if to say, "I know you didn't say this, but this is what I'm going to try and make it look like you were saying". Luckily you followed it up "oops". Otherwise you would have came off as weak and immature.
I was actually going to add that the GOP has also got deregulation stamped on their ass. But I assumed some foreigner would come in here and tell me how it really is.
Something I know you have seen from me:http://www.newsday.com/services/newspap … 9339.storyKmarion wrote:
No fucking way am I giving them a complete pass. The republicans have also got deregulation stamped on their ass.
At least McCain has been outspoken.
Do you want to compare fallouts? Do you want to look and see who was the benefactor of said fallouts and the resulting biggest bailout in human history? Naaaaah, just keep putting words in my mouth.
Nice hissy fit though.
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