deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
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Mutantsteak wrote:

I wasn't saying they were completely healthy, I'm saying that it wasn't as serious as McCain's condition is. I'd love to see Obama's medical records too but I'm more concerned if I want McCain in office if he's going to get sick again.
good, then we get Palin.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6906|132 and Bush

It looks like their website acknowledges that he did release his records. They say that it was only released to a few reporters and for a brief period of time.

John McCain has not yet released his medical records to the public. McCain is 72 years old, and has been diagnosed with invasive melanoma. In May of this year, a small group of selected reporters were allowed to review 1,173 pages of McCain's medical records and were allowed only three hours to do so. John McCain's health is an issue of profound importance. We call on John McCain to issue a full, public disclosure of all of his medical records, available for the media and members of the general public to review.
"CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN and Fox will be allowed to take notes from the records, as will wire reporters from the Associated Press, Reuters and Bloomberg news agencies."

Are we expected to believe that all of those networks/outlets are willing to cover up? That was the insinuation when they wrote "selected reporters".

These PAC groups thrive on half truths.
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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Mutantsteak wrote:

SgtHeihn wrote:

Mutantsteak wrote:

I don't see why his medical records aren't released, I thought when you were running for a government position then your history belongs to the media.
Medical records fall under the pretense of doctor patient confidentiality. I wouldn't want my medical records released for the public's viewing pleasure.

If they want his medical records released then everyone's medical record should be public domain.
I think there is a special case involving the leader of the country, we should see if he is physically fit for office before he is elected.
Medical records are the holy grail of private sealed info. Pretty much the only way someone else can see your records is if you sign to allow it (e.g. when joining the military, you have to give the DoD permission to look through your medical record if needed).
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Ajax_the_Great1
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Mutantsteak wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Mutantsteak wrote:

I'd love to see Obama's medical records too
And yet you've never brought it up before hand...
Do you really care?
About making you look hypocritical? A little bit.

About Obamas medical records? No, not really.
Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,431|6270|London, England

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Mutantsteak wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:


And yet you've never brought it up before hand...
Do you really care?
About making you look hypocritical? A little bit.

About Obamas medical records? No, not really.
How does that make me look hypocritical? I am not saying one candidate is better than the other, I'm just saying that I want to know about whose running my country and who would be a healthy choice. I didn't mention Obama because the thread isn't about him...
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Mason4Assassin444
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Kmarion wrote:

Mutantsteak wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

McCain did release his records from 2000-2008. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 … l-records/

The details of McCain's health are contained in 1,173 pages of medical documents spanning 2000 to 2008 that his campaign made available to the AP to make the case that he's healthy enough to serve as president, as well as to counter the notion that he's too old. The Arizona senator will turn 72 in August and would be the oldest elected first-term preside
http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/966 … 08.article
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w … 994435.ece


Barack Obama has not released his medical records, and Bill Clinton never did disclose his.
Barack and Bill didn't have cancer four times and aren't/weren't that old to warrant such a search. I bet they would reveal them if it was necessary
Barack has a history of smoking. Why in the name of holy hell wouldn't his health be called into question? Clinton had a cyst removed from his chest (1995). He also had a basal cell carcinoma lesion. .. annnd he also had a precancerous growth removed from his nose (1996). All while in office.

Nice one sided view you have there .


Oh yea, and McCain did release his records.
He quit smoking.

And he isn't 72.
God Save the Queen
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deeznutz1245 wrote:

Mutantsteak wrote:

I wasn't saying they were completely healthy, I'm saying that it wasn't as serious as McCain's condition is. I'd love to see Obama's medical records too but I'm more concerned if I want McCain in office if he's going to get sick again.
good, then we get Palin.
jokes right?
Minion
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He's 72? Shouldn't there be a an age limit when taking office in the USA?

I mean.. that's kind of pushing it.. If he does get elected and is voted in for a second term, he'd be there until he's 80, wouldn't he?

Maybe this is normal though.. I'm Canadian so I'm not all up on American politics.. But I'm interested in knowing what will happen if John McCain takes office and has some serious health problems while he is the President.. If he was to pass away while in office, would Vice Pres. Palin take his position for good until the next term?  What if she's not really ready to be President?

IMO it's a pretty big issue.. If what I stated above was to happen everyone would have to look at Palins capabilities for Vice Pres. and President as well when voting in the two of them this election.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6906|132 and Bush

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Mutantsteak wrote:

Barack and Bill didn't have cancer four times and aren't/weren't that old to warrant such a search. I bet they would reveal them if it was necessary
Barack has a history of smoking. Why in the name of holy hell wouldn't his health be called into question? Clinton had a cyst removed from his chest (1995). He also had a basal cell carcinoma lesion. .. annnd he also had a precancerous growth removed from his nose (1996). All while in office.

Nice one sided view you have there .


Oh yea, and McCain did release his records.
He quit smoking.

And he isn't 72.
Cause only old ppl die from disease .

In case you hadn't heard the effects of smoking can be seen years after the person quits.
ummm ... oh yea.
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-=]V[-i-n-i-o-n=- wrote:

He's 72? Shouldn't there be a an age limit when taking office in the USA?

I mean.. that's kind of pushing it.. If he does get elected and is voted in for a second term, he'd be there until he's 80, wouldn't he?

Maybe this is normal though.. I'm Canadian so I'm not all up on American politics.. But I'm interested in knowing what will happen if John McCain takes office and has some serious health problems while he is the President.. If he was to pass away while in office, would Vice Pres. Palin take his position for good until the next term?  What if she's not really ready to be President?

IMO it's a pretty big issue.. If what I stated above was to happen everyone would have to look at Palins capabilities for Vice Pres. and President as well when voting in the two of them this election.
His moms 96.

He is going to live forever.

Honestly, I think the chances of BHO being assassinated are higher than mccain dying of old age. Then we get that drunk in the office.
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KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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He has aids, he got it from the Hanoi Hilton.

nah, that's just mean.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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Pretty sure my great grandfather is 100 next year, and I'd be damned if he didn't smoke a fair bit in his earlier years.
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SealXo
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Joe Biden, A drunk one lung away from the presidency.
Reciprocity
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

He has aids, he got it from the Hanoi Hilton.

nah, that's just mean.
The CIA didn't invent HIV until the early 80's.  You are wrong, Sir!
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6995|Tampa Bay Florida

SealXo wrote:

-=]V[-i-n-i-o-n=- wrote:

He's 72? Shouldn't there be a an age limit when taking office in the USA?

I mean.. that's kind of pushing it.. If he does get elected and is voted in for a second term, he'd be there until he's 80, wouldn't he?

Maybe this is normal though.. I'm Canadian so I'm not all up on American politics.. But I'm interested in knowing what will happen if John McCain takes office and has some serious health problems while he is the President.. If he was to pass away while in office, would Vice Pres. Palin take his position for good until the next term?  What if she's not really ready to be President?

IMO it's a pretty big issue.. If what I stated above was to happen everyone would have to look at Palins capabilities for Vice Pres. and President as well when voting in the two of them this election.
His moms 96.

He is going to live forever.

Honestly, I think the chances of BHO being assassinated are higher than mccain dying of old age. Then we get that drunk in the office.
"Americas friendliest homeee town"
What do you have against drunks?  They always speak their mind.....
SealXo
Member
+309|6841

Spearhead wrote:

SealXo wrote:

-=]V[-i-n-i-o-n=- wrote:

He's 72? Shouldn't there be a an age limit when taking office in the USA?

I mean.. that's kind of pushing it.. If he does get elected and is voted in for a second term, he'd be there until he's 80, wouldn't he?

Maybe this is normal though.. I'm Canadian so I'm not all up on American politics.. But I'm interested in knowing what will happen if John McCain takes office and has some serious health problems while he is the President.. If he was to pass away while in office, would Vice Pres. Palin take his position for good until the next term?  What if she's not really ready to be President?

IMO it's a pretty big issue.. If what I stated above was to happen everyone would have to look at Palins capabilities for Vice Pres. and President as well when voting in the two of them this election.
His moms 96.

He is going to live forever.

Honestly, I think the chances of BHO being assassinated are higher than mccain dying of old age. Then we get that drunk in the office.
"Americas friendliest homeee town"
What do you have against drunks?  They always speak their mind.....
A drunk president? Think of the possible scenarios lol.
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6629|New Haven, CT
We've already had eight years of alcoholism in office. But really, seeing Palin's interview on CBS makes me wonder why anyone in their right mind would vote for McCain. I am seriously scared looking at her clear lack of intellect, and, of course, her dogmatic lying.
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6825|Πάϊ
so then which channels play this shit?
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6906|132 and Bush

The going rate for a political cancer attack ad is 50k on MSNBC. I wonder what they charge for aneurysms.
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War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
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-=]V[-i-n-i-o-n=- wrote:

He's 72? Shouldn't there be a an age limit when taking office in the USA?

I mean.. that's kind of pushing it.. If he does get elected and is voted in for a second term, he'd be there until he's 80, wouldn't he?

Maybe this is normal though.. I'm Canadian so I'm not all up on American politics.. But I'm interested in knowing what will happen if John McCain takes office and has some serious health problems while he is the President.. If he was to pass away while in office, would Vice Pres. Palin take his position for good until the next term?  What if she's not really ready to be President?

IMO it's a pretty big issue.. If what I stated above was to happen everyone would have to look at Palins capabilities for Vice Pres. and President as well when voting in the two of them this election.
The reason why the U.S. came up with the idea of VP while establishing their government after the American Revolution is because of the possibility that the President might of either died or resigned

nukchebi0 wrote:

We've already had eight years of alcoholism in office. But really, seeing Palin's interview on CBS makes me wonder why anyone in their right mind would vote for McCain. I am seriously scared looking at her clear lack of intellect, and, of course, her dogmatic lying.
*Facepalm* no point of explaining things to you.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
AussieReaper
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War Man wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

We've already had eight years of alcoholism in office. But really, seeing Palin's interview on CBS makes me wonder why anyone in their right mind would vote for McCain. I am seriously scared looking at her clear lack of intellect, and, of course, her dogmatic lying.
*Facepalm* no point of explaining things to you.
*Facepalm* no point explaining evolution to you.

On topic:

I'm concerned about her eagerness to show up her foreign policy credentials with lines like "When Russian send aircraft to attack the US where will it be? Through Alaska."


edit: here's the quote

“It’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It’s Alaska.”

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nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6629|New Haven, CT

War Man wrote:

-=]V[-i-n-i-o-n=- wrote:

He's 72? Shouldn't there be a an age limit when taking office in the USA?

I mean.. that's kind of pushing it.. If he does get elected and is voted in for a second term, he'd be there until he's 80, wouldn't he?

Maybe this is normal though.. I'm Canadian so I'm not all up on American politics.. But I'm interested in knowing what will happen if John McCain takes office and has some serious health problems while he is the President.. If he was to pass away while in office, would Vice Pres. Palin take his position for good until the next term?  What if she's not really ready to be President?

IMO it's a pretty big issue.. If what I stated above was to happen everyone would have to look at Palins capabilities for Vice Pres. and President as well when voting in the two of them this election.
The reason why the U.S. came up with the idea of VP while establishing their government after the American Revolution is because of the possibility that the President might of either died or resigned

nukchebi0 wrote:

We've already had eight years of alcoholism in office. But really, seeing Palin's interview on CBS makes me wonder why anyone in their right mind would vote for McCain. I am seriously scared looking at her clear lack of intellect, and, of course, her dogmatic lying.
*Facepalm* no point of explaining things to you.
No, there is no point explaining things to you. If I wanted a perfect example why homeschooling should be amended out of the Constitution, I would use you. Your parents have clearly indoctrinated you to support conservatives, and have left you without a shred of rational or critical thought. I recognize faults with Obama. I wrote a student council speech that said nothing in terms of a real message, but mentioned 'change' 27 times in 300 words, purposely mocking how some of what Obama says is empty rhetoric. I have analyzed both sides, and I know Obama is not perfect. Its just that the other side is a complete travesty.

I would rather have nebulous promises coming from someone with demonstrated intelligence, than pathetic lies, rash, injudicious decisions and a clear lack of higher order thinking. McCain is guilty of the former two, but his health compels us to consider Palin seriously as a presidential candidate. She is terribly guilty of the first and last offense. I hate jumping on this bandwagon, but I know at least two teachers in my school who would be more competent and effective presidents than she would be. They are way more articulate, have a better sense of leadership, and have demonstrated their intelligence through their teaching methods, comments in class, and college educations (Dartmouth history major and Notre Dame law school graduate). Seriously, go beyond what your parents are shoving down your throat. You might feel a bit liberated when you can think on your own.

I could go on a whole rant about how McCain/Palin popularity at all just is a sad testament to the anti-intellectual nature of Americans, but I don't feel like wasting time writing it.

Kmarion wrote:

The going rate for a political cancer attack ad is 50k on MSNBC. I wonder what they charge for aneurysms.
I know you support McCain because you are wealthy, but please consider the differences between a one-time procedure on someone who is 65 and has no history of physically traumatic experiences, with a four-time occurrence on someone 72 years old who has a history of repetitive physical trauma. Also consider the fact that Biden is not the presidential candidate, while McCain is, and that Obama's health is obviously is good shape. It doesn't really prove that much, and the non-affiliated group that produced the ad has a legitimate concern that should be highlighted.

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FEOS
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One question: Why won't either campaign run ads describing why the American voter should vote for them...instead of constantly running ads for why we shouldn't vote for the other guy?

If I go into a car dealership and the salesperson just trashes the competition without pointing out why their product is the right one for me to buy...I walk out.

Presidential election politics is utterly sickening. Just lay out your detailed policies and specifics that you will have the power to enact as the chief executive, FFS.

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Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|6968|USA

Kmarion wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Barack has a history of smoking. Why in the name of holy hell wouldn't his health be called into question? Clinton had a cyst removed from his chest (1995). He also had a basal cell carcinoma lesion. .. annnd he also had a precancerous growth removed from his nose (1996). All while in office.

Nice one sided view you have there .


Oh yea, and McCain did release his records.
He quit smoking.

And he isn't 72.
Cause only old ppl die from disease .

In case you hadn't heard the effects of smoking can be seen years after the person quits.
ummm ... oh yea.
ROlleyes all you want. If you believe McCain is healthier than Obama....well....believe that then.

"Are you kidding me?" fits in right here.

Last edited by Mason4Assassin444 (2008-09-26 05:26:53)

tuckergustav
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Well, these things are all just distractions IMO.  Who cares...if you support a McCain/Palin ticket or an Obama/Biden ticket, it should be because they share some/most/all the same values that you have...these PAC messages really just fuel the epidemic of uneducated voting....from both sides.
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