no you're a dem babycakes. Embrace the darkside.usmarine wrote:
im independent home slice. if i had my choice, it would be obama and palin tbh.m3thod wrote:
Welcome to the club slick.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Calling USMarine a Dem is like calling Mike Tyson a chick.
i cant be. i am not yelling at people telling them who to vote. nor am i calling them stupid for who they are voting for. maybe i should then.m3thod wrote:
no you're a dem babycakes. Embrace the darkside.usmarine wrote:
im independent home slice. if i had my choice, it would be obama and palin tbh.m3thod wrote:
Welcome to the club slick.
Have you hear MT talk?Lotta_Drool wrote:
Calling USMarine a Dem is like calling Mike Tyson a chick.
what do you think of that turncoat voting for the dems?Lotta_Drool wrote:
Calling USMarine a Dem is like calling Mike Tyson a chick.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
and he does like to nibble on guys ears........ ok I take it back.ATG wrote:
Have you hear MT talk?Lotta_Drool wrote:
Calling USMarine a Dem is like calling Mike Tyson a chick.
Looks like I am voting for Obama too http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=108715&p=4m3thod wrote:
what do you think of that turncoat voting for the dems?Lotta_Drool wrote:
Calling USMarine a Dem is like calling Mike Tyson a chick.
That's how important voting in the US election is.
Obama wants to attack Pakistan.
Bullshit.CC-Marley wrote:
Obama wants to attack Pakistan.
He wants to fight the Taliban and AQ that are in Pakistan, after the fled Iraq and moved through Afghanistan.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ … 35827.aspx
Unless you think Musharraf is still a nice guy after his impeachment, and was truly willing to help fight the war on terrorism, what would you have proposed Obama to do, pander to his reign and keep him in power?Obama wrote:
"Obviously today we just want to express our sympathies to the Pakistani people and the Bhutto family about the assassination," he said. "I've been saying for some time that we've got a very big problem there."
He elaborated: “Not only do we have a president who has acted in an anti-democratic fashion the past, but we also have the rise of Islamic militants in the northwest provinces that are going back and forth between the borders of Afghanistan and Pakistan.”
Obama added that Al Qaeda now has a base in Pakistan and American intelligence says that the group is stronger there now than they were before 2001.
Tying the problem of Pakistan to the war in Iraq, Obama said, “We were distracted from focusing on them. And they are causing us problems, and they are still plotting to do harm to America. And once we have focused on how to stabilize Iraq and reduce our footprint there -- saying no permanent bases, we are not occupying this country -- we will then be in a position to really take on those who actually killed 3,000 Americans. That's what I intend to do as President of the United States."
In August, Obama’s reference to talking about Pakistan, most probably refers to an August 2007 speech on counterterrorism in which he argued the United States should strike Pakistan unilaterally if they find actionable intelligence about al-Qaeda terrorist camps there and Pakistan fails to act. The speech was criticized by some as overreaching in terms of foreign policy. But Obama frequently cites it now when pointing to the turmoil in Pakistan to say that he was right.
After Obama’s closing argument speech today, his chief media strategist David Axelrod, used the opportunity to criticize Clinton on the same theme, saying that if the United States had not gone to war in Iraq, they would have had more resources to deal with the greater threat in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Obama tried putting as much pressure on Musharraf as possible unless he acted. You can look at the consequences of this stance after the fact.
What policy do you think someone like McCain would have taken?
afghans dont want us there either.
they haven't seen our surge yet. They just need a good surgin'.usmarine wrote:
afghans dont want us there either.
you know, you can make fun of war all you want. must be easy for you in your little suburb to do so. i hope one day you have to patrol a combat zone at night, just to give you some perspective.Reciprocity wrote:
they haven't seen our surge yet. They just need a good surgin'.usmarine wrote:
afghans dont want us there either.
How am I making fun of war? Do they or do they not need a shitlaod of our soldiers and marines there to stabilize their fucked country?usmarine wrote:
you know, you can make fun of war all you want. must be easy for you in your little suburb to do so. i hope one day you have to patrol a combat zone at night, just to give you some perspective.Reciprocity wrote:
they haven't seen our surge yet. They just need a good surgin'.usmarine wrote:
afghans dont want us there either.
no, they do not. spec ops can get it done. we tracked osama with a few spec ops and some locals for years. clinton was too much a pussy to pull the trigger, but it is possible.Reciprocity wrote:
How am I making fun of war? Do they or do they not need a shitlaod of our soldiers and marines there to stabilize their fucked country?usmarine wrote:
you know, you can make fun of war all you want. must be easy for you in your little suburb to do so. i hope one day you have to patrol a combat zone at night, just to give you some perspective.Reciprocity wrote:
they haven't seen our surge yet. They just need a good surgin'.
Who said anything about osama? I thought we were talking about stabilizing afghanistan? Killing osama won't do shit for afghanistan.
If that's the way you want to play, Bush was too much of a pussy to hunt down Osama after 9/11. He decided he'd rather invade Iraq.usmarine wrote:
clinton was too much a pussy to pull the trigger, but it is possible.
ugh.Reciprocity wrote:
Who said anything about osama? I thought we were talking about stabilizing afghanistan? Killing osama won't do shit for afghanistan.
some of these countries will never be stable. there is a reason afghan is the most invaded country in history. not sure of the reason however.
ummm... i was in afghan from december 2001 till june 2002. trust me, i cleared many many caves. he was gone, simple as that. we had him in the 90's a couple times, but our govt failed.TheAussieReaper wrote:
If that's the way you want to play, Bush was too much of a pussy to hunt down Osama after 9/11. He decided he'd rather invade Iraq.usmarine wrote:
clinton was too much a pussy to pull the trigger, but it is possible.
you might have been in grade school or something, but some of us were looking for him.
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i also find it funy you think we, and others, are not looking for him.
So, if the goal was to kill osama why aren't we now in Pakistan? and why does McCain criticize Obama for wanting to "invade" Pakistan?usmarine wrote:
ugh.Reciprocity wrote:
Who said anything about osama? I thought we were talking about stabilizing afghanistan? Killing osama won't do shit for afghanistan.
some of these countries will never be stable. there is a reason afghan is the most invaded country in history. not sure of the reason however.
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oh so he is in pakistan? thank you. pls phone the CIAReciprocity wrote:
So, if the goal was to kill osama why aren't we now in Pakistan? and why does McCain criticize Obama for wanting to "invade" Pakistan?usmarine wrote:
ugh.Reciprocity wrote:
Who said anything about osama? I thought we were talking about stabilizing afghanistan? Killing osama won't do shit for afghanistan.
some of these countries will never be stable. there is a reason afghan is the most invaded country in history. not sure of the reason however.
usmarine wrote:
oh so he is in pakistan? thank you. pls phone the CIAReciprocity wrote:
So, if the goal was to kill osama why aren't we now in Pakistan? and why does McCain criticize Obama for wanting to "invade" Pakistan?usmarine wrote:
ugh.
some of these countries will never be stable. there is a reason afghan is the most invaded country in history. not sure of the reason however.
usmarine wrote:
ummm... i was in afghan from december 2001 till june 2002. trust me, i cleared many many caves. he was gone, simple as that.
what?Reciprocity wrote:
usmarine wrote:
oh so he is in pakistan? thank you. pls phone the CIAReciprocity wrote:
So, if the goal was to kill osama why aren't we now in Pakistan? and why does McCain criticize Obama for wanting to "invade" Pakistan?usmarine wrote:
ummm... i was in afghan from december 2001 till june 2002. trust me, i cleared many many caves. he was gone, simple as that.
so he's not in Pakistan. He's not in Afghanistan. India? Iran? Tibet?
I never said that.usmarine wrote:
i also find it funy you think we, and others, are not looking for him.
I said your friends were in Iraq when they could\should have been with you and your troop.