our founding fathers knew a thing or two about foresight.Kmarion wrote:
Ambiguity... it's a good thing.
So you would hide behind your uniform and work for Hitler. That is all you need to say.God Save the Queen wrote:
off the top of my head, anything short of rape, murder or torture is a lawful order that I would have been bound to follow.
good job.
fucking hippy.
fucking hippy.
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Drool = wouldn't follow a direct order if it was morally unacceptable (only if i was US citizens i suspect)
GStQ = Would follow a direct order even though it was morally unacceptable (doesn't matter who it is)
...right?
"morally flexible"
GStQ = Would follow a direct order even though it was morally unacceptable (doesn't matter who it is)
...right?
"morally flexible"
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Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Ive done some fucked up things and seen a lot more to sit here in the comfort of my home and pick and choose what is right and wrong on an internet forum.
All I have to say is that reality really changed my perspective on a lot of things.
All I have to say is that reality really changed my perspective on a lot of things.
Wrong, GStQ wouldn't round up Jews or Weapons from American citizens. He is just being a troll.m3thod wrote:
Drool = wouldn't follow a direct order if it was morally unacceptable (only if i was US citizens i suspect)
GStQ = Would follow a direct order even though it was morally unacceptable (doesn't matter who it is)
...right?
And I would follow every order that is lawful.
I would round up weapons from individuals that were breaking the law. Its on you and I as American citizens to use every legal means possible to keep the laws we dont believe are worth passing, to be passed. If a law gets passed due to the complacency of the American public, then for fucks sake, they deserve it.
No, it is your duty to protect the constitution from enemies foriegn or domestic and to uphold the constitution.God Save the Queen wrote:
I would round up weapons from individuals that were breaking the law. Its on you and I as American citizens to use every legal means possible to keep the laws we dont believe are worth passing, to be passed. If a law gets passed due to the complacency of the American public, then for fucks sake, they deserve it.
Our forefathers didn't want an army that worked for the government to be used against the people. Thus why you ultimately are under the authority of the constitution, not the Government.
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God
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I would follow an order that is moral.
Edit: would probably get kicked from the army in matter of seconds.
Edit: would probably get kicked from the army in matter of seconds.
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exactlyLotta_Drool wrote:
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God
spit, I was and always have been against the inavasion of Iraq on moral and legal grounds. That didnt stop me from getting deployed with great enthusiasim. If you could understand that sentiment, maybe you would understand what Im saying instead of using such god damn offensive words as "Hitler" and "Hide behind my uniform" thats some sorry shit.
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here hereGod Save the Queen wrote:
exactlyLotta_Drool wrote:
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God
So, how would it be a lawful order for you to do things that are prohibited by the Bill of Rights? Rights endowed to Americans by their creator.God Save the Queen wrote:
exactlyLotta_Drool wrote:
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God
This is why the Hitler would fail in America.
burn of the millenniumGod Save the Queen wrote:
you know what, I would just go to your house and take your weapons. Afterwards I would put you in zip ties and take a gigantic shit in your mouth while your jewish family watched.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
The war in Iraq is legal and moral. And yes, it was completely legal so what you think doesn't matter.God Save the Queen wrote:
spit, I was and always have been against the inavasion of Iraq on moral and legal grounds. That didnt stop me from getting deployed with great enthusiasim. If you could understand that sentiment, maybe you would understand what Im saying instead of using such god damn offensive words as "Hitler" and "Hide behind my uniform" thats some sorry shit.
Now, having said that. I am no longer in the military and would recommend Americans not join the US military after the way the US congress has sold out to US troops and thrown them in jail after putting them in lose/lose situations. Everything from attaching media with their units and second guessing their decisions they had to make under fire and untrained national guard troops that were put under control of spooks in POW camps and given unlawful orders and instructions.
Why serve for a Congress that will sell you out and put you in prison for political gain. Fuck Service under Ted Kennedy and Bush.
usmarine is not a muslim also.
fucking hide behind my uniform? people tried to kill me because of my uniform. spittle, youve been living on the internet for too long.
but youve been to kosovo correct?...you MUST be a muslimusmarine wrote:
usmarine is not a muslim also.
albaniaSchwarzelungen wrote:
but youve been to kosovo correct?...you MUST be a muslimusmarine wrote:
usmarine is not a muslim also.
i was closeusmarine wrote:
albaniaSchwarzelungen wrote:
but youve been to kosovo correct?...you MUST be a muslimusmarine wrote:
usmarine is not a muslim also.
this post has just shown me that you are no different than 15 year oll kid living off of his parents wealth that thinks he is far too good to serve in the military.Lotta_Drool wrote:
The war in Iraq is legal and moral. And yes, it was completely legal so what you think doesn't matter.God Save the Queen wrote:
spit, I was and always have been against the inavasion of Iraq on moral and legal grounds. That didnt stop me from getting deployed with great enthusiasim. If you could understand that sentiment, maybe you would understand what Im saying instead of using such god damn offensive words as "Hitler" and "Hide behind my uniform" thats some sorry shit.
Now, having said that. I am no longer in the military and would recommend Americans not join the US military after the way the US congress has sold out to US troops and thrown them in jail after putting them in lose/lose situations. Everything from attaching media with their units and second guessing their decisions they had to make under fire and untrained national guard troops that were put under control of spooks in POW camps and given unlawful orders and instructions.
Why serve for a Congress that will sell you out and put you in prison for political gain. Fuck Service under Ted Kennedy and Bush.
U r being too quiet on this.usmarine wrote:
usmarine is not a muslim also.
on what?Lotta_Drool wrote:
U r being too quiet on this.usmarine wrote:
usmarine is not a muslim also.
oh...i am eating and cooking chow for lunch tomorrow.
If it wasn't true then why go out of your way to deny it?usmarine wrote:
usmarine is not a muslim also.
I have served. Our Government is corrupt. Deal with it.God Save the Queen wrote:
this post has just shown me that you are no different than 15 year oll kid living off of his parents wealth that thinks he is far too good to serve in the military.Lotta_Drool wrote:
The war in Iraq is legal and moral. And yes, it was completely legal so what you think doesn't matter.God Save the Queen wrote:
spit, I was and always have been against the inavasion of Iraq on moral and legal grounds. That didnt stop me from getting deployed with great enthusiasim. If you could understand that sentiment, maybe you would understand what Im saying instead of using such god damn offensive words as "Hitler" and "Hide behind my uniform" thats some sorry shit.
Now, having said that. I am no longer in the military and would recommend Americans not join the US military after the way the US congress has sold out to US troops and thrown them in jail after putting them in lose/lose situations. Everything from attaching media with their units and second guessing their decisions they had to make under fire and untrained national guard troops that were put under control of spooks in POW camps and given unlawful orders and instructions.
Why serve for a Congress that will sell you out and put you in prison for political gain. Fuck Service under Ted Kennedy and Bush.
The military just couldn't stay all fun and killing forever. Now you storm a building you suspect has enemy in it and a civi gets shot, it is on film and you get charged with murder and war crimes. Doesn't matter that your buddy just got blown 50ft in the air 1 block up the road by a IED and you saw the people all rush into the house moments before the IED blew.