Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6396|Ireland

God Save the Queen wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

Why is McCains relationship with Gordon Liddy not questioned more vigorously?  The Keating 5? 


The idea of even questioning mccains patriotism is suicide.  You know they say he was a collaborater for the Norh Vietnamese. I dont believe it, but if we are talking about Obama being a secret undercover muslim and this other stuff why doesnt that get nearly as much attention?
G. Gordon Liddy Rocks!  I never knew him and McCain were bros.  I might have to take a look at McCain now!
See I would think you were the kind of person that would despise liddy

Liddy: When the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms thugs come to kill your wife and children, to try to disarm you and they open fire on you. When they come at the point of a gun, force and violence, when you're going to defend yourself, use that Gerand [M-1 rifle]. That thing is 30-06, and it'll take 'em right out.

Caller: And yes, aim for the head.

Liddy: Absolutely.

Liddy: Arm yourself. Get instructed in how to shoot straight.

Caller: I've got weapons.

Liddy: Absolutely. And don't give 'em up, and don't register either.

Caller: No way. And I'm aiming between the eyes.

Liddy: There you go. That way their flak jackets won't protect them.



maybe youve seen all your life's harships and miseries through the eye of the media like other people that think this kind talk is acceptable have?
They must have been talking about Ruby Ridge and I agree.  Aim for the head.  I have never said the ATF wasn't out of control and what they did in WACO was correct.  I have just said two wrongs don't make a right.  Branch dividians were nut jobs that were dangerous and the Ruby Ridge guy was a White Power faggot that could be cured by a bullet in his head, BUT.........

This doesn't mean that the ATF gets to walk all over people's constitutional rights, set people up, kill family pets, snipe infants, and fuck people over like the gestopo.   

I assure you if someone came to confiscate my guns I would be putting bullets through a lot of people.  I would aim for the face.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6557|tropical regions of london
telling people how to kill other Americans, law enforcement officials, is a good thing?


you must like gangster rap.

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-09-01 15:17:29)

Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6903|Tampa Bay Florida

God Save the Queen wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

FEOS wrote:

I'm not talking about executive experience being a deal-breaker. I'd say that McCain's (and Biden's) decades of experience in the Senate far exceed the minimum.

But if people are going to say that Obama is experienced and Palin isn't, then they simply aren't being truthful.
Do you know what both of them did before they got into politics?  I'd say that matters a lot and you either think it doesn't count or simply don't know.  Read up on both of them and tell me with a straight face Obama and Palin are equals.
you could make the argument, based on that criteria, McCain is more qualified
I agree, but McCain really F'ed up because thats one of the few advantages he had by picking Palin.  Now its harder to justify why he's more qualified than Obama when his VP is even less qualified than Obama. 

And then there are a few people trying to have it both ways by saying "Obama supporters dont think experience counts!!"  No, not at all.  The fucking point was that Hillary Clinton wasnt better than Obama just because she's been in longer.  And now the righties are using that to defend Palin, which is retarded imo. 

In other words, experience doesnt count for everything, but dont use it against your opponent and later pretend like you didnt. 

But hey it might fool a bunch of people.  So whatever works.  The GOP's 2008 campaign so far has been the greatest sign that change hasnt' happened, at least not yet.

Last edited by Spearhead (2008-09-01 15:21:29)

Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6396|Ireland

God Save the Queen wrote:

telling people how to kill other Americans, law enforcement officials, is a good thing?


you must like gangster rap.
It can be very useful information.  If you were in the military and a law was passed taking away all fire arms from americans and you got orders to go to houses and search for the weapons and take them would you follow that order?

Would you train and arm the civilian police force and fire on a compound in waco with your M2 bradley when the ATF ordered you too?
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6557|tropical regions of london
yes. because those are lawful orders.


the things you are describing are exactly the kind of things I did to Iraqis in Iraq.  Civilians.  We took weapons.  We overan police stations.  We cordoned peoples neighborhoods with M2's.  I was awarded an ARCOM for driving a bradley through somebodies wall and exposing a house full of assholes with weapons.

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-09-01 15:26:48)

Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6396|Ireland

God Save the Queen wrote:

yes. because those are lawful orders.


the things you are describing are exactly the kind of things I did to Iraqis in Iraq.
An we all know that Iraqis have rights as American citizens under the US constitution.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6557|tropical regions of london

Lotta_Drool wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

yes. because those are lawful orders.


the things you are describing are exactly the kind of things I did to Iraqis in Iraq.
An we all know that Iraqis have rights as American citizens under the US constitution.
when they are under US military authority, they fall under our constiution.  Thats why we get in trouble when the media finds shit out.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6659|The Land of Scott Walker

God Save the Queen wrote:

yes. because those are lawful orders.
Those orders directly violate the 2nd amendment?
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6557|tropical regions of london

Stingray24 wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

yes. because those are lawful orders.
Those orders directly violate the 2nd amendment?
if a law is passed then it wouldnt be unconstitutional.  This is what happens when you play around with what ifs.  Freeing slaves used to be unconstitutional too.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6396|Ireland

God Save the Queen wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

yes. because those are lawful orders.


the things you are describing are exactly the kind of things I did to Iraqis in Iraq.
An we all know that Iraqis have rights as American citizens under the US constitution.
when they are under US military authority, they fall under our constiution.  Thats why we get in trouble when the media finds shit out.
I LOL at your post.  LOL LOL LOL.

Your blood sugar is low from not eating.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6557|tropical regions of london

Lotta_Drool wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:


An we all know that Iraqis have rights as American citizens under the US constitution.
when they are under US military authority, they fall under our constiution.  Thats why we get in trouble when the media finds shit out.
I LOL at your post.  LOL LOL LOL.

Your blood sugar is low from not eating.
Im talking about non cambatants and detainees.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6396|Ireland

God Save the Queen wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

yes. because those are lawful orders.
Those orders directly violate the 2nd amendment?
if a law is passed then it wouldnt be unconstitutional.  This is what happens when you play around with what ifs.  Freeing slaves used to be unconstitutional too.
LOL, unconstitutional laws are, well, unconstitutional.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6557|tropical regions of london

Lotta_Drool wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Those orders directly violate the 2nd amendment?
if a law is passed then it wouldnt be unconstitutional.  This is what happens when you play around with what ifs.  Freeing slaves used to be unconstitutional too.
LOL, unconstitutional laws are, well, unconstitutional.
you can make an argument that any law passed after the 10th ammendment is unconstitutional.

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-09-01 15:34:45)

Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6396|Ireland

God Save the Queen wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:


if a law is passed then it wouldnt be unconstitutional.  This is what happens when you play around with what ifs.  Freeing slaves used to be unconstitutional too.
LOL, unconstitutional laws are, well, unconstitutional.
you can make an argument that any law passed after the 10th ammendment is unconstitutional.
So you would work for Hitler and hide behind your uniform.

Interesting, I didn't know many people like you in the military.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6557|tropical regions of london
you have some nerve spittle, even for you to say something like that.  Glad I didnt deploy with anyone like you.  I dont think they would have hacked it.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6903|Tampa Bay Florida

Lotta_Drool wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:


LOL, unconstitutional laws are, well, unconstitutional.
you can make an argument that any law passed after the 10th ammendment is unconstitutional.
So you would work for Hitler and hide behind your uniform.

Interesting, I didn't know many people like you in the military.
Nice flip around there.  Make gs look like he's the one being accused of something when you're the one defending whatshisface
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6396|Ireland

God Save the Queen wrote:

you have some nerve spittle, even for you to say something like that.  Glad I didnt deploy with anyone like you.  I dont think they would have hacked it.
Not if I was deployed against US citizens with you.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6557|tropical regions of london
if my country told me to go to nicaragua and shoot at members of my fathers family, I would do it without hesitation.

If my country told me to go to venezuela and arrest my favorite cousin, I would have no problem.

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-09-01 15:40:29)

m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6885|UK

God Save the Queen wrote:

if my country told me to go to nicaragua and shoot at members of my fathers family, I would do it without hesitation.

If my country told me to go to venezuela and arrest my favorite cousin, I would have no problem.
why?
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6396|Ireland

God Save the Queen wrote:

if my country told me to go to nicaragua and shoot at members of my fathers family, I would do it without hesitation.

If my country told me to go to venezuela and arrest my favorite cousin, I would have no problem.
Or if they told you to come gather up every American citizens rifle and hand gun you would have no problem.  Or if they told you to gather up the Jews........

The Constitution is the constitution and Unconstitutional laws are passed all the time and that is why we have the Surpreme Court and the Justice System.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6557|tropical regions of london
off the top of my head, anything short of rape, murder or torture is a lawful order that I would have been bound to follow.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6814|132 and Bush

God Save the Queen wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

yes. because those are lawful orders.
Those orders directly violate the 2nd amendment?
if a law is passed then it wouldnt be unconstitutional.  This is what happens when you play around with what ifs.  Freeing slaves used to be unconstitutional too.
Untrue. Plenty of laws have been passed that were unconstitutional.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/26/scotus.guns/
Xbone Stormsurgezz
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6557|tropical regions of london

Lotta_Drool wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

if my country told me to go to nicaragua and shoot at members of my fathers family, I would do it without hesitation.

If my country told me to go to venezuela and arrest my favorite cousin, I would have no problem.
Or if they told you to come gather up every American citizens rifle and hand gun you would have no problem.  Or if they told you to gather up the Jews........

The Constitution is the constitution and Unconstitutional laws are passed all the time and that is why we have the Surpreme Court and the Justice System.
exactly, thats why playing with such a retarded what if is fucking stupid.


Foreign and Domestic spittle.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6557|tropical regions of london

Kmarion wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Those orders directly violate the 2nd amendment?
if a law is passed then it wouldnt be unconstitutional.  This is what happens when you play around with what ifs.  Freeing slaves used to be unconstitutional too.
Untrue. Plenty of laws have been passed that were unconstitutional.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/26/scotus.guns/
thats what I said in further posts.  You could make an argument for a lot of things being unconstituional.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6814|132 and Bush

Ambiguity... it's a good thing.
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